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Postby Unibot III » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:46 pm

I mean, non-GPers are relevant to GP in that they’re the natives of our regions still.
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Postby Vando0sa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:56 pm

Got 7, -12.. not sure what that means.. that's good right?
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:02 pm

Vando0sa wrote:Got 7, -12.. not sure what that means.. that's good right?


Middle of the road Invader, pretty cosmopolitan. It’s a fairly Jakker-esque score. Does that help?
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Postby Vando0sa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:10 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:Got 7, -12.. not sure what that means.. that's good right?


Middle of the road Invader, pretty cosmopolitan. It’s a fairly Jakker-esque score. Does that help?


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Postby Jar Wattinree » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:57 pm

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Zaolat wrote:We don't care about non-GPers in a Gameplay Alignment Test.
Agreed, but they are part of NS, which what Mall said ignored. I’m a pedant usually; I had to,object

Eventually everyone gets drawn into GP, if they hadn't taken steps to isolate themselves from it first. Except class regions, those are different.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:04 pm

-8, 20.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:34 pm

Ramaeus wrote:-8, 20.


First thought: aw, he’s a defender again!

Second: What the hell, 20, good lord!!
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:49 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Ramaeus wrote:-8, 20.


First thought: aw, he’s a defender again!

Second: What the hell, 20, good lord!!
Jeez, how do you even do that?
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Postby Ankuran » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:00 pm

-14.5, -11.

Gotta say though, I'm kind of impressed with this whole project.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:27 am

4, -2

Impressive work. I must admit, it's a marvel of planning.

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Postby Drasnia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:44 am

Zaolat wrote:
Fauxia wrote: “Center of NS.”

The center is definitely defenderist, because most non-GPers are defender moralists. Make sure that you qualify that GP is not all of NS, but it is basically all of this test


We don't care about non-GPers in a Gameplay Alignment Test.
Than why am I on the new chart? :ugeek:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:23 am

Man this is fun to do. Took it once, got 11, -5. Just took it again (to see if any attitude changes affected my score a little), got 10, -4.
I'm roughly recommended for TBH, Balder, and Euro.
On the other hand, on my first time through I was 97.5% recommended for TWP. That left me tied for third highest recommendation to TWP.
Then I took it again and now I'm tied for highest recommendation to TWP, at 98.75%, with Mostly Benevolent Tyranny, who's score was 10.5, -5.

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:52 am

Willania Imperium wrote:4, -2

Impressive work. I must admit, it's a marvel of planning.


Thank you! I'd like to say 'it's just a spreadsheet' but I had to learn several new tricks to make it all work. It'd have been a lot simpler on Excel.

Lord Dominator wrote:Man this is fun to do. Took it once, got 11, -5. Just took it again (to see if any attitude changes affected my score a little), got 10, -4.
I'm roughly recommended for TBH, Balder, and Euro.
On the other hand, on my first time through I was 97.5% recommended for TWP. That left me tied for third highest recommendation to TWP.
Then I took it again and now I'm tied for highest recommendation to TWP, at 98.75%, with Mostly Benevolent Tyranny, who's score was 10.5, -5.


Hehhhh. I'm sure by your fifth try you'll have the top highest recommended score. :P

EDIT: I see Eli's pretty high up there too, nice. Although it's embarrassing for me Davelands isn't higher, I'm tempted to change TWP's score. Bearing in mind, of course, TWP's score is currently based off the Badger administration. Problem is I intend to keep this test as a stable list, so the regional scores are all going to get woefully out of date anyways.
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Postby Zaolat » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:23 pm

Drasnia wrote:
Zaolat wrote:
We don't care about non-GPers in a Gameplay Alignment Test.
Than why am I on the new chart? :ugeek:


Because you hang about and actively socialize and comment with Gameplayers.

Here's the usual things non-GPers do when it comes to GP,

"Come join my RP region", "raiders r bad", "flags something", "why is my civil rights so low?", Etc

While I agree with Fris, that Gameplay is more than just the GCRs, Military Gameplay, and the largest UCRs; most of those people ignore the greater Gameplay. We have a few fringe commentators and the occasional noob that slowly gets involved.

Everyone else doesn't know about it enough, doesn't care, or avoids it like some of us who avoid General. If they interact at all it's usually one of the qouted bits.

I'm against non-GPer inclusion in the test, if there should be inclusion it should be a separate test. The fringe outliers and newbies will probably take the test anyways. I don't expect the majority to do so and I'm against promoting that option.
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Postby Kringalia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:49 pm

Unibot III wrote:Here's a rough first draft of the 'new' compass, mostly including names from the today's generation of kids and some folks who got caught between the release of the old compass and the new one.

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I made it to the (draft) graph! I feel so accomplished. :P
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Postby Vuon » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:35 pm

Unibot III wrote:EDIT: I see Eli's pretty high up there too, nice. Although it's embarrassing for me Davelands isn't higher, I'm tempted to change TWP's score. Bearing in mind, of course, TWP's score is currently based off the Badger administration. Problem is I intend to keep this test as a stable list, so the regional scores are all going to get woefully out of date anyways.

Why not regularly update the region's scores?

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:07 pm

Vuon wrote:
Unibot III wrote:EDIT: I see Eli's pretty high up there too, nice. Although it's embarrassing for me Davelands isn't higher, I'm tempted to change TWP's score. Bearing in mind, of course, TWP's score is currently based off the Badger administration. Problem is I intend to keep this test as a stable list, so the regional scores are all going to get woefully out of date anyways.

Why not regularly update the region's scores?


We'll see. :lol:
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Postby Wickedly evil people » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:12 am

I don't know what I got when you all did the original one, think I answered as Eli not Wep that time.

I would assume fairly close to what I got this time...
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Postby Vuon » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Vuon wrote:Why not regularly update the region's scores?


We'll see. :lol:

What do you mean? Is it too hard to regularly update region's scores? Are there RL obstacles towards doing so?

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Postby Diyaristan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:40 am

I'm surprised I scored higher for raiderism than notorious raider nation Vandoosa, considering I'm a native in a non-raider community and have pro-defender sentiments too (Roavin and some Spear Danes did defend roleplayer friends I had since before I really knew about R/D from TWPAF and I'm still glad they did). Surprised, but not disappointed. The region does know about my double life outside roleplayer/writer circles.

Possibly, maybe my answers saying to the effect it's just a game, nothing to get upset over tipped the balance. Nations go to war all the time IRL, and removing certain ways to play would definitely decrease the quality of the game for many people. NS without raiders occasionally attacking my community would be like Guild Wars 2 without World versus World; when I was Secretary of Markion before my CTE I enjoyed finding and banning mostly nations that were serving as staging grounds for usually TWPAF forces to invade through. (for the record, the attacks seemed awfully small, it must have been just elements of their army impatient to conquer something)

I tend to view R/D alliances as a logical extension of the International Incident forums. Some countries are pacifist, others are warlike, having ways to simulate war and its effects in a harmless game keeps a lot of activity here.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:00 am

Diyaristan wrote:Possibly, maybe my answers saying to the effect it's just a game, nothing to get upset over tipped the balance.


Yes, that'll do it. The test is reflecting your values, not your geopolitical position. So a more laissez faire view will push your score more raiderist.
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Postby Mostly Benevolent Tyranny » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:19 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Man this is fun to do. Took it once, got 11, -5. Just took it again (to see if any attitude changes affected my score a little), got 10, -4.
I'm roughly recommended for TBH, Balder, and Euro.
On the other hand, on my first time through I was 97.5% recommended for TWP. That left me tied for third highest recommendation to TWP.
Then I took it again and now I'm tied for highest recommendation to TWP, at 98.75%, with Mostly Benevolent Tyranny, who's score was 10.5, -5.


I started out in TWP with a different nation, so it would make sense that my scores favor TWP fairly heavily :p
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:38 pm

Mostly Benevolent Tyranny wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Man this is fun to do. Took it once, got 11, -5. Just took it again (to see if any attitude changes affected my score a little), got 10, -4.
I'm roughly recommended for TBH, Balder, and Euro.
On the other hand, on my first time through I was 97.5% recommended for TWP. That left me tied for third highest recommendation to TWP.
Then I took it again and now I'm tied for highest recommendation to TWP, at 98.75%, with Mostly Benevolent Tyranny, who's score was 10.5, -5.


I started out in TWP with a different nation, so it would make sense that my scores favor TWP fairly heavily :p
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Postby Mostly Benevolent Tyranny » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:50 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Mostly Benevolent Tyranny wrote:
I started out in TWP with a different nation, so it would make sense that my scores favor TWP fairly heavily :p
That being The Imperial Grand Drall?


Precisely.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:46 pm

I've updated the Gameplay Alignment Test with the North Pacific as a suggested region now since Gladio's election.

Enjoy, cheers.
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