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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:24 am

NURight?

What does the U stand for?
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Postby McChimp » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:01 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:NURight?

What does the U stand for?


"NationStates United Right"

Right at the top of the treaty. I suppose they dropped the S because they liked the new right thing. The NS right in general has a real weakness for terrible acronyms. It's not as bad as "REATO" at least.
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YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.' - Hogfather, Terry Pratchett.

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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:04 pm

McChimp wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:NURight?

What does the U stand for?


"NationStates United Right"

Right at the top of the treaty. I suppose they dropped the S because they liked the new right thing. The NS right in general has a real weakness for terrible acronyms. It's not as bad as "REATO" at least.


FRA might as well have been french (i mean, surrendering IS kinda their thing) and TBH aint too honest
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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:30 pm

Blood Wine wrote:FRA might as well have been french (i mean, surrendering IS kinda their thing) and TBH aint too honest

GP didn't miss you or your comments ;)
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McChimp
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Postby McChimp » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:06 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
FRA might as well have been french (i mean, surrendering IS kinda their thing) and TBH aint too honest


(GP has been literally pining for you and your comments)

We've missed your expertly hand-crafted flag. It's sublime.
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"So we can believe the big ones?"
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
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YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.' - Hogfather, Terry Pratchett.

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Brotherhood of Guns
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Postby Brotherhood of Guns » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:10 pm

NURight wrote:
BREAKING - NationStates Right-Wing Community Unites Once Again
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Following the degradation of the NSRight, the right-wing community of NationStates has come together to form an even more powerful force for good. A force against the despicable and weak ideology that is communism and leftism. The NURight will promote the anti-communist agenda to the leftmost sector of NationStates, through forceful means if necessary. From the ashes of a powerful organisation rises a league of aligned nations with new capabilities, the likes of which the world has yet to be see.


Founding Regions:
Federation of Conservative Nations, represented by New Waldensia.
Kaiserreich, represented by Cresenthia.
Libertatem, represented by The Aradites.
The United Federation of Capitalists, represented by Electrona.

[...][<-not needed information right now]

Additionally, an open invitation is to be extended to the various right-wing, non-fascist regions, particularly those that were former members of NSRight, for them to request to join this great undertaking.



Lets try to go with the basics:
1º Nice presentation indeed, you caught the attention of all with your Left-ish Ice cream cone.
2º Region Analysis:

Federation of Conservative Nations: I find a slight paradox with the WFE Advancing conservatism and promoting freedom!. Maybe I am Wrong.

KAISERREICH: I do not want to sound repetitive, like the rest, but is it really? They went ahead on the day of the innocent, or rather want to believe in false innocence? Lets make a Check-list:
[*]Flag
[*]Anthem Hear it (read subtitle..)
[*]So liberal the flag of the Minister of Propaganda
I mean, I could list more, but I want to give a slight benefit of Doubt.

Libertatem: Tags: Libertarian, Conservative
Reventus Koth wrote:Is Libertatem ever going to explain why The Black Hawks are at the top of their "Terror Watchlist" dispatch as an enemy of the region? Like, even ahead of the most prominent NSLeft regions and organizations?

Erm, Koth, Possibly the Libertatem, is so confused that in their list of terrorists, is TBH and The Reform Party of Libertatem. But Again, Paradox....

The United Federation of Capitalists: Embassies: Nazi Europa....

Reventus Koth wrote:NSGP: Where the most anyone can think to contribute to a new organization's thread is elementary interpretations of their flag.

And we wonder why everyone on this site hates us.

Because TBH is cool, and envy is the simplest element to use against someone or something :P
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Custadia
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Postby Custadia » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:24 pm

Brotherhood of Guns wrote:Federation of Conservative Nations: I find a slight paradox with the WFE Advancing conservatism and promoting freedom!. Maybe I am Wrong.


You are wrong. There is no contradiction between conservatism and freedom.

Libertatem: Tags: Libertarian, Conservative

Erm, Koth, Possibly the Libertatem, is so confused that in their list of terrorists, is TBH and The Reform Party of Libertatem. But Again, Paradox....


TBH is a well-known raiding region. To a small-ish UCR, raiding regions can seem like a threat worth putting on terror watchlists. The Reform Party's presence on the list can be explained, as you'd expect, with context; that particular party repeatedly broke their laws and then tried to circumvent the punishments for their transgressions.

You seem to have some kind of problem with conservatism that's biasing your judgement of the alliance. There is nothing sinister about the moderate right-wing.
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United Islamic Commonwealth
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:28 pm

Custadia wrote:There is nothing sinister about the moderate right-wing.

>KR
>Moderate right-wing

Okay.
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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:37 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Caelapes wrote:Nice ice cream cone logo.

Now serving "freedom" flavored ice ream!

You mean "disguised oppression." :p

Is there a similar organization for leftists?
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Caelapes
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Postby Caelapes » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:52 pm

Roosevetania wrote:Is there a similar organization for leftists?

The NSLeft (website) predates this organization and crushed its predecessors, REATO and Anticom. In fact, the NSLeft is so influential that the NSRight (the immediate precursor to this organization) stole our Solidarity Pact and essentially just changed "NSLeft" to "NSRight" to serve as their treaty before they dissolved and rebranded.

If this one foolishly walks the same path as its forebears and antagonizes leftist regions, we'll do the same again.
    
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Roosevetania
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Postby Roosevetania » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:55 pm

Caelapes wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Is there a similar organization for leftists?

The NSLeft (website) predates this organization and crushed its predecessors, REATO and Anticom. In fact, the NSLeft is so influential that the NSRight (the immediate precursor to this organization) stole our Solidarity Pact and essentially just changed "NSLeft" to "NSRight" to serve as their treaty before they dissolved and rebranded.

If this one foolishly walks the same path as its forebears and antagonizes leftist regions, we'll do the same again.

This one seems more far-left communist. Is there a more big-tent, pan-leftist organization?
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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:47 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Caelapes wrote:The NSLeft (website) predates this organization and crushed its predecessors, REATO and Anticom. In fact, the NSLeft is so influential that the NSRight (the immediate precursor to this organization) stole our Solidarity Pact and essentially just changed "NSLeft" to "NSRight" to serve as their treaty before they dissolved and rebranded.

If this one foolishly walks the same path as its forebears and antagonizes leftist regions, we'll do the same again.

This one seems more far-left communist. Is there a more big-tent, pan-leftist organization?

You'll find that the communists and far-left have co-opted the entire leftist sphere in this game. If you don't like pushing a far-left agenda, you probably won't fit in with organizations like The Red Fleet.

The same can usually, but not always, be said about the NSRight (in reverse, obviously). The big difference is that the right sphere in Gameplay is much smaller and often finds itself on the losing side of left-right conflicts in NS. The two sides are more defined in NS by their antagonization of each other than by anything else. If you're looking for a more moderate pan-leftist experience, avoid the Red and Black.

I can also guarantee that someone from the NSLeft is ready to tell me how wrong I am at this very moment.
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Postby Custadia » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:40 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:>KR
>Moderate right-wing

Okay.


Many of his arguments were against conservatives and libertarians. Whether KR falls into those two categories or further I cannot say.
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Blood Wine
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:26 am

McChimp wrote:
(GP has been literally pining for you and your comments)

We've missed your expertly hand-crafted flag. It's sublime.


Drop Your Pants wrote:GP didn't miss you or your comments ;)


Who are you and why do you feel qualified to comment on my return? :rofl:
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Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:13 pm

Custadia wrote:TBH is a well-known raiding region. To a small-ish UCR, raiding regions can seem like a threat worth putting on terror watchlists. The Reform Party's presence on the list can be explained, as you'd expect, with context; that particular party repeatedly broke their laws and then tried to circumvent the punishments for their transgressions.


I'd be happy to talk with representatives from Libertatem and help them understand that raiders have no interest in regions with active founders. The Black Hawks, nor any other raider organization, is a threat to Libertatem given its state. It just seems really arbitrary to put The Black Hawks specifically at the top of their terror list (great name, by the way...) and not any other raiding organization if that's truly their reasoning.
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Xanthal wrote:Only raiders can win in this war- a defender can keep them from winning one region, one update at a time, but there will always be the next region, the next update, and the next, forever.

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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:34 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:I'd be happy to talk with representatives from Libertatem and help them understand that raiders have no interest in regions with active founders.

Unless the delegate is on a year plus streak ;)
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Zaolat
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Postby Zaolat » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:10 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Reventus Koth wrote:I'd be happy to talk with representatives from Libertatem and help them understand that raiders have no interest in regions with active founders.

Unless the delegate is on a year plus streak ;)

And how often is that since the Black Hawks founding?

Raiders will hit anything they can hit for any reason. Doesn't mean they want or have to.
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Consular
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Postby Consular » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:29 pm

Blood Wine wrote:FRA might as well have been french (i mean, surrendering IS kinda their thing) and TBH aint too honest

What you essentially just said is you know nothing about history.

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Reventus Koth wrote:Is Libertatem ever going to explain why The Black Hawks are at the top of their "Terror Watchlist" dispatch as an enemy of the region? Like, even ahead of the most prominent NSLeft regions and organizations?

Clearly it's because you're tagged LGBT

lmao

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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:00 pm

What’s this hew signatory, Oak Ridge?

Sad that these regions are all either irrelevant to most GPers or Nazi Collaborators. Or both
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:53 am

Consular wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:FRA might as well have been french (i mean, surrendering IS kinda their thing) and TBH aint too honest

What you essentially just said is you know nothing about history.



it's called a joke, doesn't have to be historically accurate
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Caelapes
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:41 pm

Image


Things that pass for acceptable (i.e., not ban-worthy or suppress-worthy) posts in the NURight, everyone!
    
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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:09 am

I am zero percent surprised by that
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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:32 am

Caelapes wrote:Things that pass for acceptable (i.e., not ban-worthy or suppress-worthy) posts in the NURight, everyone!

The game mod who visited didn't agree.
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Caelapes
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Postby Caelapes » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:10 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Caelapes wrote:Things that pass for acceptable (i.e., not ban-worthy or suppress-worthy) posts in the NURight, everyone!

The game mod who visited didn't agree.

The game mod also isn’t the founder of the NURight member region in which that was posted, who was active on the RMB after it was posted.

edit: bigotry bonus round! The same NURight member region in which antisemitic posts are fine (until suppressed by game moderators) raised a random region and have defaced it with a homophobic poll and ableism in the WFE! http://archive.is/UcMhv
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Consular
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Postby Consular » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:39 am

Lovely.

Not particularly surprising though.

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