The Kemetic Chronicle ~ Osirian ConCon in Chaos

[The Kemetic Chronicle]

Osirians Deal Stunning Blow to the Political Establishment

Osirians have dealt a stunning and humiliating blow to their political establishment, rejecting a Constitution authored by Cormac Stark [Cormactopia Prime] that would have massively expanded the power of Osirian Pharaoh Syberis. The Constitution was called the Scroll of Horus and it was defeated by a narrow margin when Guardians Adytus, Wrektopia and Weast Jurmany among others voted against the Constitution in the final hours of voting in Osiris' Constitutional Convention [ConCon]. The ConCon remains open and Cormac has vowed to put the Scroll of Horus to a second vote without any changes after another mandatory week long discussion period. The Constitution was also backed by Pharaoh Emeritus Neo Kervoskia and had been reviewed by Pharaoh Syberis before the ConCon started.

The Scroll of Horus would have given the Pharaoh nearly absolute power, marginalising the other aspects of Osirian government. Under the proposed Constitution the Pharaoh would appoint executive, legislative and judicial officials and would be able to dismiss them... all except for Cormac and Neo Kervoskia, who would have been automatically appointed to the Council of Guardians and could have only been removed by vote of the Osirian legislature. What some are calling a glaring display of self-interest on the part of Cormac was pointed out before the ConCon even started but no changes were made. Sources in Osiris primarily blame that part of the Constitution and the stubborn refusal of Cormac to change it for the Constitution's failure at vote. One source from the 2016 Resistance Movement against the coup by Tim and Cormac Stark said he was pleasantly surprised to see members of the post-coup community actually willing to stand up to Cormac and the Rahl family, which includes Empire members Neenee and Neo Kervoskia as well as Syberis. The Rahl family also notably includes Adytus and Wrektopia leaving some to wonder if yet another Osirian Civil War is on the horizon.

After threatening to leave Osiris and quickly backtracking, Cormac has proposed the recall of Adytus, Wrektopia and Weast Jurmany from the Council of Guardians and used colourful and revealing language in his rage against the failure of his Constitution:

Cormac: As far as I'm concerned we have nothing left to say to each other and I look forward to your inevitable expulsion from Osiris, along with Wrektopia and Weast Jurmany and whoever else in your cabal wants to continue attempting to subvert Osiris.

Cormac: Adytus doesn't know how to be a community beyond his clique.
Cormac: Just like everyone else I've made sure was expelled from Osiris over the years.

Cormac: They can speak up, but let me just reiterate that I will not be making a single alteration to my proposal.

Cormac was joined in ridiculing Osirians who voted against his Constitution by close ally Reventus Koth, who has participated in both coups against Osiris by Cormac. One anonymous Osirian source commented: "Cormac didn't want a convention, he wanted a rubber stamp. He's just doing what he does when people dare to disagree with him, holding Osiris hostage."

[Th Empire of Wymondham]

What a load of absolute rubbish. Although I don't know exactly who it is I have an idea who either did it or leaked the logs. What happened was a cabal of guardians and other miscreants, who are supposed to protect Osiris, voted against cormacs constitution at the last minutes despite having contributed nothing to the discussion
They did this as Cormac's constitution threatened the stranglehold they held over Osirian politics with a history of vote switching, last minute piling and voting for themselves in elections they were standing in. O urg my fellow Osrians to vote FOR Cormac's proposal to remove them from their roles as guardians and the Paharoh to remove them from all they're other positions. If these individuals have a micro gram of moral intergrity left they will resign citizenship and all they're other roles in Osiris as well.

[Roavin]

I'm not an Osiran (in fact I'm proscribed there >_>), and I really don't have enough information to take any one side, but what I find interesting is that when Cormac proposed having a convention in the first place, he even mentioned putting more powers into the Delegate position. Adytus both motioned for that and voted for it, as did Wrektopia and Weast Jurmany. So it's certainly not new that this was the plan, and while I obviously don't know what happened in the meantime, it does look weird that this is all of a sudden a problem that prompted a last minute "Nay" vote. Also ..... Adytus.

Either way, I do hope for Osirans that this all gets resolved civilly.

[Consular]

All three of those quotes look like pretty much the exact same stuff cormac says every time something like this happens.

You've become awfully predictable man.

[Th Empire of Wymondham]

May I note that these quotes aren't actually quotes they are paraphrases however I am not going to reveal those quotes as unlike this individual I abide by the rules on the particular channel these paraphrases come from.

[Killer Kitty]

Fake news.

[Unibot III]

*snorts* The whole article begs to question what Cormac thinks a community is. "I quit. Wait, I un-quit. You don't know how to be a community, now shut up, vote for my damn constitution and give my cabal more power. I'm not changing the proposal for anyone." There's been a misunderstanding: community is a give and take, it's not particularly individualistic. There can be no community in a dictatorship. Cormac is confusing community with sycophancy. A redefinition as self-serving as it is vain and utilitarian, not to mention terribly characteristic of Osiris' authoritarian revival.

EDIT:

I'm sure the Guardians are just looking out for their own power, but Osiris's community shouldn't trust Cormac to write their constitution, let alone run the convention in the first place. He's no better when it comes to holding political power.

Just to clarify, I agree with GR and Roavin that the Guardians are probably being self-serving here, but that doesn't make them wrong to oppose the new constitution. I can't muster sympathy for any character in this 'Osirian tragedy' except innocent residents stuck with this House of Cards. The answer is simple but not easy. An open society fosters communities, a closed one disrupts them.

[Glen-Rhodes]

I'm sure the Guardians are just looking out for their own power, but Osiris's community shouldn't trust Cormac to write their constitution, let alone run the convention in the first place. He's no better when it comes to holding political power.

Frankly, it's crazy that Osiris would even consider putting this kind of autocracy to vote in the first place. Do newbies think they'll end up in the top echelon one day, or what? Stop signing away your future ability to shape the region, guys. Your entire ruling class is looking out for themselves, and telling you that the best way to grow the region is for "experience" to have a stranglehold on government. Throw them all out. NK, Cormac, Syberis, Adytus-- none of them are interested in growing a community, just running one.

[Reventus Koth]

The fact that the OP themed his/her tabloid after the long-defunct Kemetic Republic of Osiris should be all anyone needs to see to understand how much of a load this is. Do the people who are upset even know what the KRO was? Or did they just do it to get under my skin? Classy all around.

The second thing anyone needs to see is Unibot and GR posting in lockstep to criticize the government. Truly the two people who know best when it comes to a region they have 0 investment in.

The third, of course, is the fact that whoever leaked from the citizens chat cares so much about the sanctity of the region's laws that they would commit some of the highest crimes around to publish them to the world! Smart move, if your plan is just to make your faction look even more ridiculous.

The thing that bothered me, which led me to my comments which were mentioned in the OP, is that this voting bloc has been at this game for a while now, letting everyone in the region think everyone's on the same page only to shit all over everything people actually put work into at the last minute. Adytus, Wrektopia, Weast Jurmany, etc. had contributed exactly 0 posts during the two weeks of the ConCon. Roavin helpfully pointed out that the core of their bloc all seemed to be fine with the proposal until their last minute vote stack, which apparently Adytus had time to coordinate but he could find nary a minute of his oh-so-busy last two weeks to contribute to the ConCon.

So congratulations, all you've managed to accomplish is earn the approval of defenders who have a well-documented dislike for our entire region and create a rift in the community, which you've now also brought to the world stage. The lows to which this faction will sink seem limitless.

[Glen-Rhodes]

The second thing anyone needs to see is Unibot and GR posting in lockstep to criticize the government. Truly the two people who know best when it comes to a region they have 0 investment in.

I've had more than enough interaction with the guys in power over there to know what I'm talking about

The thing that bothered me, which led me to my comments which were mentioned in the OP, is that this voting bloc has been at this game for a while now, letting everyone in the region think everyone's on the same page only to shit all over everything people actually put work into at the last minute. Adytus, Wrektopia, Weast Jurmany, etc. had contributed exactly 0 posts during the two weeks of the ConCon. Roavin helpfully pointed out that the core of their bloc all seemed to be fine with the proposal until their last minute vote stack, which apparently Adytus had time to coordinate but he could find nary a minute of his oh-so-busy last two weeks to contribute to the ConCon.

Maybe they want to be installed as permanent autocrats along with Cormac and NK, and didn't see why only those two should get special treatment in the powergrabbing?

[Unibot III]

Do the people who are upset even know what the KRO was?

Yes, I know what the KRO was. As does your Pharaoh Emeritus who helped run it.

Or did they just do it to get under my skin?

No.

The second thing anyone needs to see is Unibot and GR posting in lockstep to criticize the government. Truly the two people who know best when it comes to a region they have 0 investment in.

Cormac routinely criticizes the practices of regions that he has zero investment in, expecting said regions to consider his opinion invaluable despite an absence of personal contribution. It hasn't even been a year since he threatened to coup my own region unless it followed through with his vision for the region's future. Glen-Rhodes' region, the South Pacific, has also seen its fair share of Cormac's "input" on its constitutional affairs.

I think it's fair to share my thoughts on Cormac's mishandling of Osiris' constitution. I also don't believe that the Osiran executive is beyond the same outsider's reproach that every other major region endures. You don't get to go around criticizing everyone - criticism that's sometimes amounted to sedition - and then expect to be unavailable for criticism yourself.

So congratulations, all you've managed to accomplish is earn the approval of defenders who have a well-documented dislike for our entire region and create a rift in the community, which you've now also brought to the world stage. The lows to which this faction will sink seem limitless.

I can't speak for other defenders but they have not earned my approval. As for creating a "rift in the community," I would look to those behind the latest of Osiris' powergrab, not those whom - self-interested or not - have opposed it. A government structure that places authority arbitrarily in the hands of a select few individuals will always generate "rifts" among the wider society, that much I can guarantee you. You can silence opposition, rally around the flag and try to keep the rifts under the carpet and behind closed doors - but it doesn't mean the rifts won't be ever present, exasperated with each power struggle.

Osiran exceptionalism is perhaps the most nauseating condition that seems to befall every Osiran administration. The false belief that Osiris is different, that Osiris is uniquely incompatible with democracy and beyond reproach, that everyone saying otherwise are just outsiders, that they no nothing and hate the region. I don't hate Osiris, I just think it has repeatedly doomed itself, making the same mistakes again and again.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Apparently speaking out against autocracy is encouraging a coup lmfao: http://w11.zetaboards.com/OFO/topic/30408548/1/

Maybe y'all should just, y'know, elect your government instead?

[Cormactopia Prime]

I can't speak for other defenders but they have not earned my approval. As for creating a "rift in the community," I would look to those behind the latest of Osiris' powergrab, not those whom - self-interested or not - have opposed it. A government structure that places authority arbitrarily in the hands of a select few individuals will always generate "rifts" among the wider society, that much I can guarantee you. You can silence opposition, rally around the flag and try to keep the rifts under the carpet and behind closed doors - but it doesn't mean the rifts won't be ever present, exasperated with each power struggle.

Osiran exceptionalism is perhaps the most nauseating condition that seems to befall every Osiran administration. The false belief that Osiris is different, that Osiris is uniquely incompatible with democracy and beyond reproach, that everyone saying otherwise are just outsiders, that they no nothing and hate the region. I don't hate Osiris, I just think it has repeatedly doomed itself, making the same mistakes again and again.

Osiris has had so-called "democratic" governments, the KRO and OFO 1.0, which were as democratic as any other GCR "democracy." The rifts were actually worse under those governments, and far more severe because of the ever-present threat of coups. How do you account for that?

GCR "democracy" will not fix Osiris. GCR "democracy" has wrecked Osiris -- twice.

The truth is neither you nor Glen have any idea what is going on in Osiris, but you're commenting like you do. But what else is new?

Apparently speaking out against autocracy is encouraging a coup lmfao: http://w11.zetaboards.com/OFO/topic/30408548/1/

Maybe y'all should just, y'know, elect your government instead?

You encouraged Osirans to throw out Syberis. That is encouraging a coup.

[Glen-Rhodes]

You never change, Cormac <3

Anyways, feel free to proscribe all of TSP for whatever reasons you want. Who am I to look a gift horse in the mouth?

[Kylia Quilor]

This wasn't a blow to attempts to increase the Pharaoh's power, since the rival draft they voted for was... well, hate to break it to you, one that increased Pharaohnic power even more than Cormac's.

[Big Bad Badger]

Your entire ruling class is looking out for themselves, and telling you that the best way to grow the region is for "experience" to have a stranglehold on government. Throw them all out.

This seems to be what you and the other oligarchs are doing in TSP. Perhaps TSP should take your advice and throw you all out.

[Plagentine]

Apparently speaking out against autocracy is encouraging a coup lmfao: http://w11.zetaboards.com/OFO/topic/30408548/1/

Maybe y'all should just, y'know, elect your government instead?

Throw them all out. NK, Cormac, Syberis, Adytus--

Ye, just speaking out.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Apparently speaking out against autocracy is encouraging a coup lmfao: http://w11.zetaboards.com/OFO/topic/30408548/1/

Maybe y'all should just, y'know, elect your government instead?

Throw them all out. NK, Cormac, Syberis, Adytus--

Ye, just speaking out.

I stand by my statement. The lower rungs of Osiris should recognize that the wool's been pulled over their eyes and throw them all out of office. The only reason you even write a constitution permanently installing yourself into power is because being in power is all you care about. Speaks for itself.

Maybe y'all read "throw them all out" as a coup, rather than a call for democracy, because that's how you guys would do it.

[Plagentine]

Ye, just speaking out.

I stand by my statement. The lower rungs of Osiris should recognize that the wool's been pulled over their eyes and throw them all out of office. The only reason you even write a constitution permanently installing yourself into power is because being in power is all you care about. Speaks for itself.

Maybe y'all read "throw them all out" as a coup, rather than a call for democracy, because that's how you guys would do it.

I'm not sure what alternative understanding there is of someone calling for the leadership of the region to be thrown out. You should use thicker veils and better rhetoric next time.

[SYG]

Apparently speaking out against autocracy is encouraging a coup lmfao: http://w11.zetaboards.com/OFO/topic/30408548/1/

Maybe y'all should just, y'know, elect your government instead?

Been there, done that. At least we saved ourselves in time before it could get as insanely corrupt as The South Pacific.

[Glen-Rhodes]

I'm not sure what alternative understanding there is of someone calling for the leadership of the region to be thrown out. You should use thicker veils and better rhetoric next time.

You're accessing this website, so I assume you live in democracy IRL, and you seem to have a decent grasp on English. So you do know what "alternative understanding there is." But just in case: https://www.google.com/search?q="throw+them+out+of+office"

[Th Empire of Wymondham]

Your entire ruling class is looking out for themselves, and telling you that the best way to grow the region is for "experience" to have a stranglehold on government. Throw them all out.

This seems to be what you and the other oligarchs are doing in TSP. Perhaps TSP should take your advice and throw you all out.

I completely concur and request that I am made PNG in TSP so I never EVER have an chance or reason to go to a region where they are EXTREMELY libreal with the facts and hypocrisy knows no bounds. Not to mention the oligarchic elite that talk about democracy despite the fact they make a mockery of the concept.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Who are you?

[Unibot III]

How do you account for that?

In short, the presence of the Empire and its dubious cast of characters in both cases. More substantively, Osiris has always been torn apart by its chronically self-interested maladministration, internal political gamesmanship, and a shaky commitment to core democratic values, the rule of law and equality under the law.

I think you've neglected to acknowledge what reform has worked. A few years ago, an independent security apparatus was controversial, today it's doing its job still by opposing a constitutional power-grab on the part of the region's executives - regardless of ulterior motives involved. The misunderstanding was that Osiran democracy, once advocated by many including myself and oddly enough, you, was never going to be easy. It was the answer, yes, but it was never going to proceed without significant challenges. Addressing these challenges is always subject to the distinct contexts of the regions involved - there's no "universal" way to democratize a region. It's always going to be a work in progress. The South Pacific, for instance, has faced very substantial challenges to the region's unity and the credibility of its electoral process, it's responded by 'officializing' partisan divisions as open political parties, reforming its security institution and its criminal code, and constitutionalizing grassroots leadership through the Local Council. The North Pacific, which was once the most coup-friendly GCR hasn't been couped in years, due to its pioneering of a Security Council and an open endorsement sharing policy. The Rejected Realms decentralized most of the controversial portfolios early in its constitutional formation; to the extent at which decisions regarding immigration and citizenship, the military, and the media are made mostly autonomous to the Assembly, it also maintains no judiciary or central legal or constitutional authority. Most comparable to the Osiran experience is the East Pacific which maintains the strictest and most formal and republican division of powers, behind the law books however is a community culture that seems reminiscent of Asian values to me: filial piety and communitarian etiquette. The general gist or direction of all of these reforms - each of them aiming to respond to rifts in the regions - is polycentricity.

Part of the issue with OFO 1.0, one I hadn't really foreseen at the time, was it adopted some of the worst constitutional practices from across the democratic GCRs. Chief among them, an omnipresent legislature. It then tested them with minimum commitment to reform. The South Pacific and Osiris responded to emergent divisions very differently: TSP looked to reform as its salvation, Osiris returned to autocracy.

[Plagentine]

I'm not sure what alternative understanding there is of someone calling for the leadership of the region to be thrown out. You should use thicker veils and better rhetoric next time.

You're accessing this website, so I assume you live in democracy IRL, and you seem to have a decent grasp on English. So you do know what "alternative understanding there is." But just in case: https://www.google.com/search?q="throw+them+out+of+office"

Ah, yes, I had forgotten the old custom of voting out the non-elected leadership of the region and not taking any other actions to completely peacefully remove them from office. I am sure you had no other intentions in mind and deeply apologize for any sort of dishonorable accusations I may have thrown at you.