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Reserved for a nation "of significant size" change to 750m?

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Territorial Gorillas
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Reserved for a nation "of significant size" change to 750m?

Postby Territorial Gorillas » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:12 am

There are too many nations where people logged on enough days to make it to the bare minimum citizens, then immediately stopped forever just to make the game worse for others. I think it would be fair for new nations if the limit was changed to 750 million to free up names that people hogged. At least they would be free in 5 years :p

Thanks for your consideration!

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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:48 am

We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.
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Postby Phydios » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:12 pm

USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.

Sounds like a great idea. This would make the "permanently reserve nation name" Supporter perk actually mean something.
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Postby Bedetopia » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:50 pm

USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.


7 years is still an awfully long time, if someone wanted a name locked for so long they won't wait for it and use something else.

Some may consider this radical, but I'd rather start from 2 years and add a year for every 200 million people.

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Postby Arthemesia » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:54 pm

USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.

That sounds a lot better. But I believe that the time waited should be scaled down to only 4 years. that of a full term of Middle School/ High School/ Masters Degree at college. that, and if you are under a billion you should only have to wait 2 years. Currently, waiting for a name just because the original owner wasn't on at all and barely made it over 5oo million is crumby, no offense to the site. If you are over a billion, it goes to 4. Two billion you get 5, 3 billion then 6, etc. Also, there should not be any permanents.
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Postby Arthemesia » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:57 pm

Bedetopia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.


7 years is still an awfully long time, if someone wanted a name locked for so long they won't wait for it and use something else.

Some may consider this radical, but I'd rather start from 2 years and add a year for every 200 million people.

I roughly agree with this statement, just edit a few numbers.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:19 pm

Bedetopia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.


7 years is still an awfully long time, if someone wanted a name locked for so long they won't wait for it and use something else.

Some may consider this radical, but I'd rather start from 2 years and add a year for every 200 million people.
That may be radical, but it seems like a sane radical opinion.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:09 pm

Arthemesia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:We get a lot of suggestions about adjustments to the name release rules. It's something that could happen in the future, but it's not a high-priority issue.

My personal preference is a sliding scale where names could not be permanently reserved for population, but the time to release the name would get longer with higher populations. For example, a nation with 750 million would be released after 7 years instead of 5.

That sounds a lot better. But I believe that the time waited should be scaled down to only 4 years. that of a full term of Middle School/ High School/ Masters Degree at college. that, and if you are under a billion you should only have to wait 2 years. Currently, waiting for a name just because the original owner wasn't on at all and barely made it over 5oo million is crumby, no offense to the site. If you are over a billion, it goes to 4. Two billion you get 5, 3 billion then 6, etc. Also, there should not be any permanents.


No.

First of all, the purpose of the name release is not to help you, or any other existing player, get some particular name you have your eye on. The goal is to make sure new players can find an available name without too much difficulty, while still respecting older player's claim to the nations they've created. Radical change is not needed for the purpose of making sure new players can find a name.

Secondly, permanently reserved names are permanent for a reason. For example, we don't want to release all the obscene names that we've deleted for being obscene because then we just have to delete them again. We also don't want people using the names of deleted trolls to cash in on the trolls' notoriety. We don't want people using the names of former mods or issues contributors to give themselves prestige they didn't earn. We don't want to confuse who is being credited when the editor and author's name appear on issues. And so forth.

Population is the most common reason why names are reserved, and the population rule is the most likely to change if we need to free up more names.
Last edited by USS Monitor on Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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