The Elysian Fields

[Fauxia]

Each and every org think they are the most important. We have rebranded it to focus more on liberations. Currently we are recruiting new soldiers.

This is an inaccurate statement. Surely you're not ignorant enough to believe that people do not know who they are and what they are. I know who I am, a medium amount of importance level of GP player. Most of that importance comes from me not hesitating to share my opinions. The fact of the matter is that the UDSAF and the UDS as a whole knows they are not TGW, or a GCR, or Euro, or even LKE. This is in part due to the latter three I mentioned having a much, much longer lifespan of a region than the UDS, & as for TGW, it's because of the belief that TGW is secretly controlling all sorts of region(specifically the South Pacific) & are actively trying to subvert the region & others to promote the ideal of defenderism.

As we all know, TEF and The Dark Vanquishers are GP’s most important orgs

[Kanglia]

This is an inaccurate statement. Surely you're not ignorant enough to believe that people do not know who they are and what they are. I know who I am, a medium amount of importance level of GP player. Most of that importance comes from me not hesitating to share my opinions. The fact of the matter is that the UDSAF and the UDS as a whole knows they are not TGW, or a GCR, or Euro, or even LKE. This is in part due to the latter three I mentioned having a much, much longer lifespan of a region than the UDS, & as for TGW, it's because of the belief that TGW is secretly controlling all sorts of region(specifically the South Pacific) & are actively trying to subvert the region & others to promote the ideal of defenderism.

As we all know, TEF and The Dark Vanquishers are GP’s most important orgs

Can't resist taking potshots at them too huh?

[Lenlyvit]

The one other funny achievement they have listed is the refound of The Council of Islamic States. What's funny about it is that its now raiding other founderless regions......... As I've proved to multiple people on Discord.

What they are doing is none of our business. If UDSAF raids is that forge's business ? If that is then you should rename FORGE to a neutral org which supports both raiding and defending.

First of all, yes, yes it is FORGE's business if the UDSAF raids. There are regulations in place that explicitly prohibit raiding from FORGE regions, because FORGE is a defender organization. Not to mention the fact that the UDSAF itself is 100% defender and will not raid anyone. This is more about the fact that you helped to refound a region right into the hands of raiders, and you as a defender/refounder organization are not taking accountability of that. FYI, if you look at FORGE right now you'll see a poll to remove a member region for raiding founderless regions. That is the consequence of a FORGE member raiding others.

[Jakker]

What they are doing is none of our business. If UDSAF raids is that forge's business ? If that is then you should rename FORGE to a neutral org which supports both raiding and defending.

First of all, yes, yes it is FORGE's business if the UDSAF raids. There are regulations in place that explicitly prohibit raiding from FORGE regions, because FORGE is a defender organization. Not to mention the fact that the UDSAF itself is 100% defender and will not raid anyone. This is more about the fact that you helped to refound a region right into the hands of raiders, and you as a defender/refounder organization are not taking accountability of that. FYI, if you look at FORGE right now you'll see a poll to remove a member region for raiding founderless regions. That is the consequence of a FORGE member raiding others.

Kind of funny that you are preaching to them about accountability.

[The Greatest Bestest Nation]

What they are doing is none of our business. If UDSAF raids is that forge's business ? If that is then you should rename FORGE to a neutral org which supports both raiding and defending.

First of all, yes, yes it is FORGE's business if the UDSAF raids. There are regulations in place that explicitly prohibit raiding from FORGE regions, because FORGE is a defender organization. Not to mention the fact that the UDSAF itself is 100% defender and will not raid anyone. This is more about the fact that you helped to refound a region right into the hands of raiders, and you as a defender/refounder organization are not taking accountability of that. FYI, if you look at FORGE right now you'll see a poll to remove a member region for raiding founderless regions. That is the consequence of a FORGE member raiding others.

So Greece got successfully refounded all of a sudden.

[Kanglia]

First of all, yes, yes it is FORGE's business if the UDSAF raids. There are regulations in place that explicitly prohibit raiding from FORGE regions, because FORGE is a defender organization. Not to mention the fact that the UDSAF itself is 100% defender and will not raid anyone. This is more about the fact that you helped to refound a region right into the hands of raiders, and you as a defender/refounder organization are not taking accountability of that. FYI, if you look at FORGE right now you'll see a poll to remove a member region for raiding founderless regions. That is the consequence of a FORGE member raiding others.

So Greece got successfully refounded all of a sudden.

Uhhh.. Last I checked, Yauna is still the founder of Greece. If you happen to be insinuating that it was done with FORGE help, I'd have to tell you that I have multiple logs to disprove this. For I told Yodle a hard "maybe" as a very nice no, & as others can attest can to, I've said multiple times that I wanted nothing to do with doing something with Yodle out of a personal dislike for him.

So, in short, Greece isn't refounded, it's probably in the process of it though

[The Greatest Bestest Nation]

So Greece got successfully refounded all of a sudden.

Uhhh.. Last I checked, Yauna is still the founder of Greece. If you happen to be insinuating that it was done with FORGE help, I'd have to tell you that I have multiple logs to disprove this. For I told Yodle a hard "maybe" as a very nice no, & as others can attest can to, I've said multiple times that I wanted nothing to do with doing something with Yodle out of a personal dislike for him.

So, in short, Greece isn't refounded, it's probably in the process of it though

That's my point. It isn't refounded, and Lenlyvit is saying otherwise. I'm not blind. As to all the FORGE stuff, not sure what that has to do with anything.

[Kanglia]

Uhhh.. Last I checked, Yauna is still the founder of Greece. If you happen to be insinuating that it was done with FORGE help, I'd have to tell you that I have multiple logs to disprove this. For I told Yodle a hard "maybe" as a very nice no, & as others can attest can to, I've said multiple times that I wanted nothing to do with doing something with Yodle out of a personal dislike for him.

So, in short, Greece isn't refounded, it's probably in the process of it though

That's my point. It isn't refounded, and Lenlyvit is saying otherwise. I'm not blind. As to all the FORGE stuff, not sure what that has to do with anything.

But it was refounded, is the point that Lenlyvit is making.

[The Greatest Bestest Nation]

That's my point. It isn't refounded, and Lenlyvit is saying otherwise. I'm not blind. As to all the FORGE stuff, not sure what that has to do with anything.

But it was refounded, is the point that Lenlyvit is making.

but he said it was refounded "into the hands of raiders", even though TGW is leading a refound of it as we speak.

[Kanglia]

But it was refounded, is the point that Lenlyvit is making.

but he said it was refounded "into the hands of raiders", even though TGW is leading a refound of it as we speak.

That region being spoken about is not Greece.

[Yodle]

So Greece got successfully refounded all of a sudden.

Uhhh.. Last I checked, Yauna is still the founder of Greece. If you happen to be insinuating that it was done with FORGE help, I'd have to tell you that I have multiple logs to disprove this. For I told Yodle a hard "maybe" as a very nice no, & as others can attest can to, I've said multiple times that I wanted nothing to do with doing something with Yodle out of a personal dislike for him.

So, in short, Greece isn't refounded, it's probably in the process of it though

Ouch xD Not sure why you have a personal dislike for me, but hey at least you're forthcoming about it lol. And don't say it's because of what happened in Greece, because clearly this goes farther back than that..

[Kanglia]

Uhhh.. Last I checked, Yauna is still the founder of Greece. If you happen to be insinuating that it was done with FORGE help, I'd have to tell you that I have multiple logs to disprove this. For I told Yodle a hard "maybe" as a very nice no, & as others can attest can to, I've said multiple times that I wanted nothing to do with doing something with Yodle out of a personal dislike for him.

So, in short, Greece isn't refounded, it's probably in the process of it though

Ouch xD Not sure why you have a personal dislike for me, but hey at least you're forthcoming about it lol. And don't say it's because of what happened in Greece, because clearly this goes farther back than that..

You're right, it's not because of Greece. I'd be happy to explain it via DM on discord though, this isn't really the place for that.

[Lenlyvit]

But it was refounded, is the point that Lenlyvit is making.

but he said it was refounded "into the hands of raiders", even though TGW is leading a refound of it as we speak.

Uh, yeah. If you read my post I was saying that Council of Islamic States is the region that was refounded into raiders hands, not Greece. And it has a TEF embassy pending....

[Grecian Winds]

Now that's how you refound a region

[Jason and the Argonauts]

Now that's how you refound a region

No multies required.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

Boi

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

Good one, Tim!

[The Greatest Bestest Nation]

Now that's how you refound a region

Looks like you finally realized that 2 nation regions aren't too important.

Although, you ain't wrong.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

Now that's how you refound a region

Looks like you finally realized that 2 nation regions aren't too important.

Although, you ain't wrong.

That comment made no sense, but okay.

[The Greatest Bestest Nation]

Looks like you finally realized that 2 nation regions aren't too important.

Although, you ain't wrong.

That comment made no sense, but okay.

Nobody cares about the 2 nation regions that everybody enjoys detagging.

He is right though, in that he demonstrated how an effective refound goes.