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Wolfram and Hart - Sleeping Beauty

Postby Wolfram and Hart » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:37 pm

CAREER OPPORTUNITIES

NationStates' law firm, Wolfram and Hart aim to deliver quality services to clients throughout NationStates. We are recruiting talented individuals for the following Departments:

Software Development. Develop code to automate NS tasks (subject to the NS guidelines on automation)

Legal Team. Read and interpret laws and constitutions of a given region, and persuasively argue cases based upon those interpretations.

Special Projects. Tags and de-tags.

If you are up for the challenge, please apply to Wolfram and Hart.

SERVICES

Wolfram and Hart can help with your region's legal needs.

Dispute Resolution

Many regions have constitutions and / or laws, which are enforced by their Regional Officers. Being active members of their communities, and with a stake in the region's smooth running, an RO’s judgment can suffer from unintended bias.

By providing independent legal opinion to plaintiffs, defendants, and ROs, Wolfram and Hart's legal team aim to:
- reduce animosity between involved nations
- increase the transparency of proceedings
- increase the fairness of proceedings

Document Review

See our Constitution Clinic for examples of our work.

We can review your draft constitution or legislation, identifying any parts which lack clarity, or are contradictory.

Founder Succession

Many regions fall into difficulties due to their founder ceasing to exist. Founderless regions can be prone to raids. Wolfram and Hart offer a service to help avoid this. Founders can entrust their password to Wolfram and Hart, along with instructions as to how this should be used in the event that they CTE. Typically, the first step would be to revive the founder nation, then to entrust the password to an heir of the founder's choice.

Real Estate

Wolfram and Hart intend to operate a real estate exchange. We are interested in unwanted nations that have high influence in a region, or are region founders.

This post has been edited, which may make some of the below comments out of context. The original post was recruiting Legal Experts for the purpose of Dispute Resolution.
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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Just in case anyone wonders - while I was the founder of W&H the region originally, and retain control of the founder nation, this current revitalization of W&H as an active region is not something I'm involved in. Just letting this person put the region to use.

So no one come to me (or the founder nation of W&H) about it :P
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:53 pm

This ... seems like a really cool idea, actually.

Are there any examples of work done previously by W&H?
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Postby Solorni » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:55 pm

Kylia Quilor wrote:Just in case anyone wonders - while I was the founder of W&H the region originally, and retain control of the founder nation, this current revitalization of W&H as an active region is not something I'm involved in. Just letting this person put the region to use.

So no one come to me (or the founder nation of W&H) about it :P

I will come to you about it just to annoy you :)
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:56 pm

That sounds like fun to me. I love looking at other nation's constitutions. Would you like me to send you my country's Constitution?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:06 pm

Seems interesting! Call me if you ever need someone to talk about the laws of Europe. Well, unless it would be a conflict of interest vis-à-vis adjudications on the European Council, in which case, don't call.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:18 pm

Good luck to this new iteration of Wolfram and Hart! I'm excited to see the region up and running again.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:02 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:That sounds like fun to me. I love looking at other nation's constitutions. Would you like me to send you my country's Constitution?

W&H dabble, to my awareness, solely in regional and not national constitutions. Kylia (or whoever runs W&H these days) can clarify, however.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:24 pm

It'd be really interesting to see some sort of comparative study of law in various different NS jurisdictions.

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An Amphibious Equation
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Postby An Amphibious Equation » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:36 am

Tinhampton wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:That sounds like fun to me. I love looking at other nation's constitutions. Would you like me to send you my country's Constitution?

W&H dabble, to my awareness, solely in regional and not national constitutions. Kylia (or whoever runs W&H these days) can clarify, however.


Please read.

So no one come to me (or the founder nation of W&H) about it :P

^Qouting Kylia
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Postby Wolfram and Hart » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:54 pm

Roavin wrote:This ... seems like a really cool idea, actually.

Are there any examples of work done previously by W&H?


Thanks for the moral support! It's early days, so no examples of legal work yet. I've a promising looking recruit, which is good. Once I'm confident we can do the work, then I'll start actively seeking out cases.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Seems interesting! Call me if you ever need someone to talk about the laws of Europe. Well, unless it would be a conflict of interest vis-à-vis adjudications on the European Council, in which case, don't call.

Thanks for the offer. I may well take you up on that! The comparison idea is good too. It would probably make a good real-life dissertation topic for someone!

And hello to Kylia, who is letting us the office space! I hadn't considered that you might get lots of messages about this. Apologies if you do!

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Postby Wolfram and Hart » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:44 pm

Hi, I've updated the first post in this thread to reflect our changing business. This post is just a *bump* to get those changes seen. Thanks.

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Postby Consular » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:18 am

May I ask who is behind this?

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:25 am

That real estate stuff sounds really close to commodifying nations.

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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:52 am

This is so cool
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:31 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:That real estate stuff sounds really close to commodifying nations.

If it's just a repository of nations being given away/swapped and not bought/sold for anything worth actual currency (for instance, store purchases) then it's not actually commodifying them, at least not in a manner that's a rules violation. Though I must stress the official stance on giving away/sharing nation accounts with other people, noting the risks (some considerable) of doing so. There's many good reasons the moderation stance on it is "DO SO AT YOUR RISK!"
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:37 am

Wolfram and Hart wrote:Hi, I've updated the first post in this thread to reflect our changing business. This post is just a *bump* to get those changes seen. Thanks.

So do you already have coding experience that you're building a team from, or are you basically trying to recruit coders who have no incentive to join your organization so that they can write stuff for you.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:40 pm

Consular wrote:May I ask who is behind this?

Wolfram and Hart. They moved into the region, which I'd been keeping alive mostly out of nostalgia since my return to NS, and asked me (the controller of the Founder) permission to set up an interregional law firm in the region, because (obviously) they're fans of the show Angel. Since I wasn't using the region, I've let them do so, though I am retaining control of the founder nation, I have no involvement in the management of the region.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:42 pm

It was weird how you accidentally switched nations, Kylia.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:43 pm

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:It was weird how you accidentally switched nations, Kylia.

I log into W&H Founder periodically to ensure it stays alive and in case it gets any misdirected mail that should go to Wolfram and Hart (which it does from time to time). I had thought I had switched back to Kylia Quilor for the purposes of posting in GP, as this nation is my mouthpiece nation/avatar nation for posting on the forums, but apparently I did not do so and made a post with W&H Founder.
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Postby Chingis » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:04 pm

I think Consular meant who is behind the puppet, rather than what the puppet's name is :P

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Postby Kylia Quilor » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:11 pm

Chingis wrote:I think Consular meant who is behind the puppet, rather than what the puppet's name is :P

Well, according to the dispatches they've pinned, they run a region called 'The News Stand'
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Postby Consular » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Kylia Quilor wrote:
Chingis wrote:I think Consular meant who is behind the puppet, rather than what the puppet's name is :P

Well, according to the dispatches they've pinned, they run a region called 'The News Stand'

So you don't know? :unsure:

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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:08 pm

Consular wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:Well, according to the dispatches they've pinned, they run a region called 'The News Stand'

So you don't know? :unsure:

Not a clue. I don't really care. Unless it comes out they're a Nazi or something, they can run their law firm out of my region for as long as they want, more or less. I'm not using it for anything. It was just a puppet dump for my dirties when they decided to ask.
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Postby Consular » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:50 pm

Well I hope I don't need to point out to people that trusting an unknown actor with their founder is incredibly unwise.

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