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Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:51 am**

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:Oh my god Lazarus is a bigger mess this year than it ever was.

As I said earlier, Lazarus needs an autocrat to restore some semblance of order and stability, we are at that point in the cycle again. I would even support a raid by one of the more reasonable raider or defender groups at this point.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:16 am**

The New California Republic wrote:
Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:Oh my god Lazarus is a bigger mess this year than it ever was.

As I said earlier, Lazarus needs an autocrat to restore some semblance of order and stability, we are at that point in the cycle again. I would even support a raid by one of the more reasonable raider or defender groups at this point.

If Imki really resigns, the former CU government and myself are trying to get Treadwellia, a five year native who is also unbiased and neutral into the delegacy.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:58 am**

I want to make something very clear to y'all here; The New Lazarene Empire isn't TRI, and most certainly isn't HYDRA. I will give you that the officers helping to make a stable transition for Lazarus are members of The Ragerian Imperium. This isn't uncommon. See, Roavin and others, the thing about this game- it's an inherently very social thing. When you're in a region, you meet people that you like and enjoy playing the game with. When you meet these people, and critically, like them, you're going to want to do things on the game with them

When I saw the distasteful state Lazarus was in, I understood something had to be done about it. We've almost finished with a constitution and forums, and when you see them, the constitution in particular, you'll understand the GCR democracy the others and I value. All we seek to do is create a government for Lazarus in which the delegate and off-site administrators create a stable environment in which a natively elected governing council can exist.

Roavin, Glen, you can stand on your thrones, being gameplay's elite, and continue to be hypocrites. People will still listen to you. But at the end of the day, the system of GCR politics is rigged. Defenders mingle all over The South Pacific, and they have no intention of harming it. But when people from the LKE are in Balder, or people from TRI are in Lazarus, it's suddenly different?!?! Because we're raiders?!?!? You know that's bullshit. You can't permanently occupy a GCR. Holding it as a trophy serves literally no benefit to us whatsoever. All we seek to do is create a fair and save transition to a new natively elected government.

Please, do continue to comment, I love responding to y'all. :hug:

EDIT: I love the fact we're all posting on our puppets.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:06 am**

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:As I said earlier, Lazarus needs an autocrat to restore some semblance of order and stability, we are at that point in the cycle again. I would even support a raid by one of the more reasonable raider or defender groups at this point.

If Imki really resigns, the former CU government and myself are trying to get Treadwellia, a five year native who is also unbiased and neutral into the delegacy.

Hey, I know that guy!

:-)

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:07 am**

Vultopia II wrote:You can't raid a GCR.

I think the LWU invasion that Lazarus experienced until yesterday is evidence to the contrary.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:08 am**

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Vultopia II wrote:You can't raid a GCR.

I think the LWU invasion that Lazarus experienced until yesterday is evidence to the contrary.

I disagree with the logic here. Did they technically raid and occupy it in the sense that they took control of the delegacy for an extended period of time? Sure. Did they destroy the region or cause any damage that cannot be undone? No.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:09 am**

Vultopia II wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:I think the LWU invasion that Lazarus experienced until yesterday is evidence to the contrary.

I disagree with the logic here. Did they technically raid and occupy it in the sense that they took control of the delegacy for an extended period of time? Sure. Did they destroy the region or cause any damage that cannot be undone? No.

Did you really just say that it only counts as a raid if you destroy the region or cause permanent damage?

<_<

>_>

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:11 am**

Given I’m not the one so presumptuous as to make forums and write a constitution for a region I’ve never even really been a part of, how exactly am I a hypocrite in this situation?

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:11 am**

Arlo wrote:
Vultopia II wrote:I disagree with the logic here. Did they technically raid and occupy it in the sense that they took control of the delegacy for an extended period of time? Sure. Did they destroy the region or cause any damage that cannot be undone? No.

Did you really just say that it only counts as a raid if you destroy the region or cause permanent damage?

<_<

>_>

Not at all so. I merely said any raid that takes place on a GCR cannot cause lasting damage. Raiding a GCR and a founderless UCR a veeeery different

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:14 am**

Vultopia II wrote:
Arlo wrote:Did you really just say that it only counts as a raid if you destroy the region or cause permanent damage?

<_<

>_>

Not at all so. I merely said any raid that takes place on a GCR cannot cause lasting damage. Raiding a GCR and a founderless UCR a veeeery different

Ok. And how, exactly, does this support your erroneous statement that "You can't raid a GCR"?

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:15 am**

Arlo wrote:
Vultopia II wrote:Not at all so. I merely said any raid that takes place on a GCR cannot cause lasting damage. Raiding a GCR and a founderless UCR a veeeery different

Ok. And how, exactly, does this support your erroneous statement that "You can't raid a GCR"?

I've edited it to reflect the original intent of the message.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:50 am**

My favorite part if this is that one of the "officers" isn't even in the WA.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:51 am**

Warzone Codger wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
If you're bringing back the NLO, call me

Why bring back the NLO?

The 5th most endorsements in the region atm is Communist Stephen Colbert - We could bring back the South Pacific Socialist Republic!

*MINNOWING INTENSIFIES*

The SPSR lives on forever in the hearts of the minnows. Lazarus would be very fortunate to have the chains of oligarchy thrown off in favor of rule which is in accordance with the True Ideals of Prosperous Governance.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:53 am**

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:53 am**

Treadwellia wrote:
Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:
If Imki really resigns, the former CU government and myself are trying to get Treadwellia, a five year native who is also unbiased and neutral into the delegacy.

Hey, I know that guy!

:-)

I would support a Treadwellian Dictatorship of the Obese.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:10 am**

*grafts Yet Another Lazarus Thread onto the Megathread where it belongs*

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:07 am**

I, for one, wish the the New Lazarene Empire well. Long live the new and totally not illegitimate overlords! :bow:

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:16 am**

The New California Republic wrote:
Dr Mcmannia Whitehall wrote:
Well then this democracy is just going to sit here waiting for you with big puppy dog eyes

Democracy is the last thing that Lazarus needs right now. It needs an autocratic native to bring some order with an iron fist. Lazarus is suffering from too much democracy, democracy is part of the problem, not the solution.

You're funny Mister! Or really slow to catch on... or both!

Lazarus has been an autocracy for the last year or so, hence why it's now called a warzone by its own Delegate! Your crappy social experiment first failed in real life and now it's even managed to fail on NS! Not even COMMUNISM has failed on NS this badly... what an absolute disaster of a system!

The puppies were an autocratic joke, even under Funk, and meanwhile the GCR I'm in doesn't even have Border Control and it's more stable than Lazarus...

You know why? Because our system is such a hUUUUge "problem" that we actually get to sport some resemblance of regional security!

Good memes overall, but I still wouldn't trust you to walk a dog. You should be ashamed to call yourself NCR.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:43 am**

Reploid Productions wrote:*grafts Yet Another Lazarus Thread onto the Megathread where it belongs*

Your tenacity on trying to keep them altogether is admirable... Heh...

Curiously enough, even when I considered that the NLO wasn't a good thing, and that I was part of the NPO leadership when that happened, I do think that Lazarus never had as much stability as when it was shadow-controlled by the NPO... Sad, isn't it?

I think LAZARUS needs its dignity. I think LAZARUS deserves to be TREATED and HANDLED like a GCR, and not like a tool or a toy, which is what has been happening for a couple years now...

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:59 am**

Glacikaldr wrote:
Good memes overall, but I still wouldn't trust you to walk a dog. You should be ashamed to call yourself NCR.

What on earth are you talking about?

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:34 pm**

Glacikaldr wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Democracy is the last thing that Lazarus needs right now. It needs an autocratic native to bring some order with an iron fist. Lazarus is suffering from too much democracy, democracy is part of the problem, not the solution.

You're funny Mister! Or really slow to catch on... or both!

Lazarus has been an autocracy for the last year or so, hence why it's now called a warzone by its own Delegate! Your crappy social experiment first failed in real life and now it's even managed to fail on NS! Not even COMMUNISM has failed on NS this badly... what an absolute disaster of a system!

The puppies were an autocratic joke, even under Funk, and meanwhile the GCR I'm in doesn't even have Border Control and it's more stable than Lazarus...

You know why? Because our system is such a hUUUUge "problem" that we actually get to sport some resemblance of regional security!

Good memes overall, but I still wouldn't trust you to walk a dog. You should be ashamed to call yourself NCR.

Uh
I obviously don't speak for NCR, but I wasn't under the impression that they were an avid supporter of the wolfist regime?

An autocratic regime is not automatically equitable to the wolfist one, despite what your apparent fetish for democracy would have you believe. Cool the jets, just a little :blush:

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:42 pm**

NCR was in Lazarus at the time of the coup and was told that he had to get his endorsements down to the cap (he was given several days to do so) in order to stay within the region. At one point he was even listed as one of the people to give endorsements to in order to fight the LWU, but he had declared neutrality in the whole affair and cooperated with them. But he didn't seem that happy about it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:07 pm**

Sarakart wrote:NCR was in Lazarus at the time of the coup and was told that he had to get his endorsements down to the cap (he was given several days to do so) in order to stay within the region. At one point he was even listed as one of the people to give endorsements to in order to fight the LWU, but he had declared neutrality in the whole affair and cooperated with them. But he didn't seem that happy about it.

Long time, no see! where've you been?

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:18 pm**

Vultopia II wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:I think the LWU invasion that Lazarus experienced until yesterday is evidence to the contrary.

I disagree with the logic here. Did they technically raid and occupy it in the sense that they took control of the delegacy for an extended period of time? Sure. Did they destroy the region or cause any damage that cannot be undone? No.

Tell that to the huge amount of work we put in the Discord and Forums, which are gone now.

Sarakart wrote:NCR was in Lazarus at the time of the coup and was told that he had to get his endorsements down to the cap (he was given several days to do so) in order to stay within the region. At one point he was even listed as one of the people to give endorsements to in order to fight the LWU, but he had declared neutrality in the whole affair and cooperated with them. But he didn't seem that happy about it.

He did kinda spam propaganda for them a lot though, something only some of the natives who wanted to get LWU, had to do.

Posted: **Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:21 pm**

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Sarakart wrote:NCR was in Lazarus at the time of the coup and was told that he had to get his endorsements down to the cap (he was given several days to do so) in order to stay within the region. At one point he was even listed as one of the people to give endorsements to in order to fight the LWU, but he had declared neutrality in the whole affair and cooperated with them. But he didn't seem that happy about it.

Long time, no see! where've you been?

I don't post in gameplay much because of work and because I have decided to stay more as a spectator than a participant :v

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