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[Syberis]

Official Statement from the government of Osiris

Osiris has long advocated for the individual sovereignty of Game-Created Regions, especially Sinkers. We have also established a respect for the sovereignty of the Delegate to do as they wish. However, Osiris does draw the line when the situation makes it clear that the delegate does not hold the health and security of that Sinker above all else. We remained hopeful that the sitting Delegate would seek to operate in the region's best interests, and sent troops to support the transition in the, admittedly foolish, hope that the region would prosper after the transition.

After further observation, however, I cannot condemn enough the current status of Lazarus, and the actions of the sitting Delegate. Sinkers are not trophies to be claimed, and they require a very interesting approach; bouts of inactivity are common, and they take a very dedicated and steady hand to maintain the region. A Lazarus that ultimately serves as a colony for a UCR at best, or a raid trophy at worse, is a Lazarus that Osiris cannot, in good conscience, support.

Orders have been given, effective immediately, to remove any Osiran military personnel from Lazarus, and return to Osiris in preparation for Pharaoh's Day Celebrations.

[Aumeltopia]

Whatever else one may think of TWP and Osiris, this is a very reasonable decision.

[Willania Imperium]

TWP and Osiris have left the sinkers to sink in their own mess.

[Feux]

Why not any embassy closings?

[Ikania]

Words are nice, but actions are better.

Storm the embassy!

[Glen-Rhodes]

Interesting how TWP and Osiris have coordinated their diplomatic statements. Almost as if they coordinated quite a bit on the underlying topic ^_^~~~ I wonder if Balder is asleep or if they just need a bit more time to get the wording of their inevitable statement juuuuuust right

[Davelands]

Why not any embassy closings?

Words are nice, but actions are better.
Storm the embassy!

Interesting how TWP and Osiris have coordinated their diplomatic statements. Almost as if they coordinated quite a bit on the underlying topic ^_^~~~ I wonder if Balder is asleep or if they just need a bit more time to get the wording of their inevitable statement juuuuuust right

You three are so adorable. But I didn't make my decision to please you. I did it because it was the right thing to do and in my opinion, appropriate.

[Onderkelkia]

Interesting how TWP and Osiris have coordinated their diplomatic statements. Almost as if they coordinated quite a bit on the underlying topic ^_^~~~ I wonder if Balder is asleep or if they just need a bit more time to get the wording of their inevitable statement juuuuuust right

Balder's position remains unchanged from the Foreign Minister's statement of 14th March. We see no material change of circumstances in Lazarus since that date requiring us to re-evaluate our previous policy. The government of our fellow sinker continues to enjoy our support under the terms of our treaty. Any subsequent routine decisions regarding ongoing military support will be made in consultation with the government of Lazarus about their security needs.

[Aflana]

Glad to see Osiris and the West Pacific making a good decision.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Interesting how TWP and Osiris have coordinated their diplomatic statements. Almost as if they coordinated quite a bit on the underlying topic ^_^~~~ I wonder if Balder is asleep or if they just need a bit more time to get the wording of their inevitable statement juuuuuust right

Balder's position remains unchanged from the Foreign Minister's statement of 14th March. We see no material change of circumstances in Lazarus since that date requiring us to re-evaluate our previous policy. The government of our fellow sinker continues to enjoy our support under the terms of our treaty. Any subsequent routine decisions regarding ongoing military support will be made in consultation with the government of Lazarus about their security needs.

It is certainly like you to make the grunts do the dirty work, I suppose.

[Roavin]

Sensible call from TWP, and a really great statement from Osiris/Syberis, in my personal opinion.

Interesting how TWP and Osiris have coordinated their diplomatic statements. Almost as if they coordinated quite a bit on the underlying topic ^_^~~~ I wonder if Balder is asleep or if they just need a bit more time to get the wording of their inevitable statement juuuuuust right

Balder's position remains unchanged from the Foreign Minister's statement of 14th March. We see no material change of circumstances in Lazarus since that date requiring us to re-evaluate our previous policy. The government of our fellow sinker continues to enjoy our support under the terms of our treaty. Any subsequent routine decisions regarding ongoing military support will be made in consultation with the government of Lazarus about their security needs.

So, Balder is now the only region continuing to support LWU's griefing of Lazarus. Good to know.

[Killer Kitty]

So, Balder is now the only region continuing to support LWU's griefing of Lazarus. Good to know.

You seem bitter. Is it because Balder's support makes it that much harder for TSP to launch an attack on Lazarus?

Smart money says "yes".

[Glen-Rhodes]

You three are so adorable. But I didn't make my decision to please you. I did it because it was the right thing to do and in my opinion, appropriate.

It certainly wasn’t because the LWU was a PR disaster and you had egg on your face. Most definitely you aren’t trying to create some fake distance until something new distracts NSGP, so that TWP can pretend as if it didn’t gleefully coordinate the subversion of a GCR.

Let’s save some time. We all know TWP is going to quietly reestablish relations at some point down the road, saying that Wolf has brought stability back, regardless of the truth. Because TWP isn’t concerned about Lazarus’s sovereignty. You’re just worried the PR battle isn’t going your way.

[Nakarisaune]

I applaud the decisions of TWP and Osiris - especially recognition that even while honouring delegate supremacy, some delegates may be using that supremacy in less-than-deserving ways

[Alkasia]

Will third the embassy question. If Osiris and TWP condemn the LWU regime in Lazarus, should they not close their respective embassies with them and end diplomatic relations?

A decent rectification on the part of Osiris and TWP though.

[Killer Kitty]

Lots of TSP, TRR, and TGW in this thread all of a sudden, trying to push Osiris and TWP into a corner.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with those three regions being the most eager to see Lazarus fall since the July Coup Attempt, or their support, overt or otherwise, for the now failed Revolt faction.

Yup, I am sure they are simply concerned about the "morality" of the situation, or maybe they've suddenly become staunch Francoists?

[RiderSyl]

New foreign policy by GCR governments is rarely reflected in the on-site embassy list. It's a strange disconnect, but it's been there for years now. Some of you asking why the embassies aren't closed should know this.

[Old Hope]

Lots of TSP, TRR, and TGW in this thread all of a sudden, trying to push Osiris and TWP into a corner.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with those three regions being the most eager to see Lazarus fall since the July Coup Attempt, or their support, overt or otherwise, for the now failed Revolt faction.

Yup, I am sure they are simply concerned about the "morality" of the situation, or maybe they've suddenly become staunch Francoists?

TSP has close ties with the Francoists.
TGW is controlled by the NPO.
TRR is a defender region.

Not really surprising.

[Alkasia]

New foreign policy by GCR governments is rarely reflected in the on-site embassy list. It's a strange disconnect, but it's been there for years now. Some of you asking why the embassies aren't closed should know this.

Thank you for explaining.

[Killer Kitty]

TSP has close ties with the Francoists.
TGW is controlled by the NPO.
TRR is a defender region.

Not really surprising.

And all three want to see Lazarus fall. Thank you for strengthening my point.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Lots of TSP, TRR, and TGW in this thread all of a sudden, trying to push Osiris and TWP into a corner.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with those three regions being the most eager to see Lazarus fall since the July Coup Attempt, or their support, overt or otherwise, for the now failed Revolt faction.

Yup, I am sure they are simply concerned about the "morality" of the situation, or maybe they've suddenly become staunch Francoists?

TSP has close ties with the Francoists.
TGW is controlled by the NPO.
TRR is a defender region.

Not really surprising.

Incorrect. TSP doesn’t just have “close ties.” We’ve been Francoists all along.

Anyways, Wolf, the only people talking about the “morality” of the situation are TWP and Osiris. The defenders here know fully that neither of those regions actually cares what you do in Lazarus, unless it negatively impacts their own image. We’re just pointing out the fakeness of it all.

You certainly don’t seem upset at all about losing 2 allies. Probably because these statements aren’t worth the kilobytes and you know TWP and Osiris are still on your corner.

[Fauxia]

TSP has close ties with the Francoists.
TGW is controlled by the NPO.
TRR is a defender region.

Not really surprising.

And all three want to see Lazarus fall. Thank you for strengthening my point.

A distinction here should be made between “TGW” and “A select few Wardens”

There were, what, three Wardens, out of almost thirty, who were involved in La Resistance when it was at all relevant. Two are not even still Wardens, and the other is inactive. For the most part, the rest didn’t even really care. There may have been Former Wardens who were involved in La Resistance, but saying that “TGW was a region that strongly supported La Resistance” is even more BS than the rest of your ”wolfist” propaganda, as hard to believe as that sounds.

Also, uh, Old Hope, I hope that was sarcasm about TGW being controlled by the NPO...

TSP has close ties with the Francoists.
TGW is controlled by the NPO.
TRR is a defender region.

Not really surprising.

And all three want to see Lazarus fall. Thank you for strengthening my point.

Lazarus? They want to see Lazarus fall? The people who, according to you, supported the actual natives, and not a userite coup? Lazarus should belong to Lazarenes, not those who have on many occasions shown their allegiances not to be to the Game-Created Region they are supposed to be a citizen of, but a User-Created Region that intends to subvert the GCRin question. There is no “Lazarus” for the moment. There is only a GCR that has sadly fallen to the userites.

[Killer Kitty]

The defenders here know fully that neither of those regions actually cares what you do in Lazarus, unless it negatively impacts their own image. We’re just pointing out the fakeness of it all.

I'm glad to know you continue to think quite lowly of Osiris and TWP and, bafflingly, continue to state so publicly, even when it is entirely to your detriment and to the detriment of TSP, the region you just recently unironically represented as their Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Never change Glen. If you did I might have to start trying.

There may have been Former Wardens who were involved in La Resistance, but saying that “TGW was a region that strongly supported La Resistance” is even more BS than the rest of your ”wolfist” propaganda

A claim that, luckily for me, I never made.

Maybe work on your own propaganda before trying to lay into mine?

[Old Hope]

Also, uh, Old Hope, I hope that was sarcasm about TGW being controlled by the NPO...

That was not sarcasm. TGW is being controlled by the NPO.

And all three want to see Lazarus fall. Thank you for strengthening my point.

Lazarus? They want to see Lazarus fall? The people who, according to you, supported the actual natives, and not a userite coup? Lazarus should belong to Lazarenes, not those who have on many occasions shown their allegiances not to be to the Game-Created Region they are supposed to be a citizen of, but a User-Created Region that intends to subvert the GCRin question. There is no “Lazarus” for the moment. There is only a GCR that has sadly fallen to the userites.

I have to agree with you that those who subvert a GCR into a recruitment base of an UCR should be removed as soon as possible.

[Killer Kitty]

I have to agree with you that those who subvert a GCR into a recruitment base of an UCR should be removed as soon as possible.

I'd like to see evidence that LWU has recruited even a single nation from Lazarus as a result of Aleister being delegate. Actually, I'm still waiting for evidence that "LWU subverted Lazarus" or that we are "griefing it" or just any of the general claims coming from TSP and NPO, really.

Whole lot of assertions, not a scrap of proof. Hey, didn't we go through this exact same thing last July? Like, Déjà vu man.