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Of The Toads
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Postby Of The Toads » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:47 pm

Gibraltarica wrote:
Escade wrote:I don't care what you, a random puppet with like 18 posts to your name, think. You haven't said anything worthy of consideration and the parroting is grating to say the least.

That would be funkadelia, Escade.


Funk, is allowed to do P.R again.. *noms on popcorn and mochi*

This should be fer realz funzy.

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Widestone
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Postby Widestone » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:34 pm

Devi Vytherin wrote:-snip-

Congratulations on being the 1000th post on this thread :)
You have the 1000th post on this thread and you don't mention it?!
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Aav Verinhall
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Postby Aav Verinhall » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:04 am

Apparently so.
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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:00 pm

So are the people who are lying still lying? I looked over what I missed and it seemed pretty much the same crap as always.

I don't think much is going to change right now.
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The Septimanian Marches
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Postby The Septimanian Marches » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:08 pm

I am happy to announce that cormac wins the prize for who could reveal my identity the fastest. The rest of you win nothing.

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Sarakart
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Postby Sarakart » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:18 pm

I wasn't aware there was a competition :(
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Plagentine
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Postby Plagentine » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:20 pm

Sarakart wrote:I wasn't aware there was a competition :(

That's why you lost.

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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:38 pm

Devi Vytherin wrote:Nope, just the people on the Resistance discord server. The fact that that grouping happens to include a large portion of 'defender subversives' in the CU speaks more to the extent of the plotting against the delegate than anything else ;)

And yet even the circumstantial evidence used in the illegal trial couldn't prove such a thing. The fact of the matter is that the resistance was, before LWUs coup, just a gathering of concerned citizens discussing the state of the region and hoping to prevent the very coup that LWU committed. Of course that's been public knowledge from the very beginning. You just prefer the propaganda because it's convenient for you even if it means remaining blind (or ignorant, take your pic) to the truth.
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Postby Funkadelia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:49 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Devi Vytherin wrote:Nope, just the people on the Resistance discord server. The fact that that grouping happens to include a large portion of 'defender subversives' in the CU speaks more to the extent of the plotting against the delegate than anything else ;)

And yet even the circumstantial evidence used in the illegal trial couldn't prove such a thing. The fact of the matter is that the resistance was, before LWUs coup, just a gathering of concerned citizens discussing the state of the region and hoping to prevent the very coup that LWU committed. Of course that's been public knowledge from the very beginning. You just prefer the propaganda because it's convenient for you even if it means remaining blind (or ignorant, take your pic) to the truth.

Hold on, I’m getting lost now. Was this always an LWU coup or just right now? Can’t keep your story straight?
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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:52 pm

Funkadelia wrote:Hold on, I’m getting lost now. Was this always an LWU coup or just right now? Can’t keep your story straight?

I called this when you, Evil Wolf, Lamb and whatnot couped Lazarus. All the LWU members were in power, banjecting everyone that opposed you. Just because they didn't go public about what organization was really behind it doesn't mean they didn't do it.
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Postby Vadia » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:59 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:And yet even the circumstantial evidence used in the illegal trial couldn't prove such a thing. The fact of the matter is that the resistance was, before LWUs coup, just a gathering of concerned citizens discussing the state of the region and hoping to prevent the very coup that LWU committed. Of course that's been public knowledge from the very beginning. You just prefer the propaganda because it's convenient for you even if it means remaining blind (or ignorant, take your pic) to the truth.

Hold on, I’m getting lost now. Was this always an LWU coup or just right now? Can’t keep your story straight?


We said it was LWU this entire time and you know we did, you are just hoping someone forgot.

Devi Vytherin wrote:

I thought you weren't going to take sides on this and you thought it was stupid, now it sounds like you are just accusing natives of being TSP.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:13 pm

Sarakart wrote:I wasn't aware there was a competition :(

It's always a competition.

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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:55 am

Man Cormac, you really want them gone.
This is what, the second or third telegram?

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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:48 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Man Cormac, you really want them gone.
This is what, the second or third telegram?

It was the second.

To explain a bit better why I want them gone, I'll just copy and paste the telegram I sent to Aleister, Evil Wolf (Killer Kitty), and Funkadelia (Delescluze):

I wanted to take a minute to clear the air and explain why I oppose this coup since there seems to be some confusion:

Last summer, I supported what you three were doing because I honestly believed you were trying to make a better government and community for Lazarus. I told you as much, and you all told me that was what you were doing. I also repeatedly said that was why I was supporting you on the Gameplay forum, on Discord, and everywhere else this was discussed. I asked Osiris to support you. I asked Balder to support you. I asked TWP to support you. I asked pretty much everyone I've ever met who was not a defender to support you. And I clearly, unambiguously, and repeatedly said that it was not an LWU coup, because I honestly believed it wasn't an LWU coup. You can imagine my surprise, then, when I logged in one day to discover that in fact it was an LWU coup, and that far from wanting to make the region better, you had taken down its forum and left it with only a Discord server, with credible rumors that all you're interested in is using Lazarus as a recruitment ground for LWU. You three lied to me, and I unwittingly mislead a lot of people because I believed you. You can paint me as the untrustworthy one but I didn't lie to you -- I told you and everyone else why I supported your coup last summer, and you told me what I wanted to hear so that I'd support you until you could get to the real coup now. I'm not the untrustworthy one here. That would be you.

So my choice when you launched the LWU coup was to either support you and look like I had been a liar all along, or oppose you and make clear that I really believed last summer that this wasn't what you were doing. I decided to go the route of looking like a gullible moron instead of looking like a blatant liar, because I was in fact a gullible moron rather than a blatant liar. So, thanks so much for presenting me with the dilemma to either look like a gullible moron or a blatant liar. I really appreciate it.

To top it all off, after launching the LWU coup you swore wasn't happening, you smeared the Rejected Realms by accusing them of defending fascists. That was so far outside the realm of acceptable behavior that I don't even know what to say about it other than what I've already publicly said. Except to say that I shouldn't be surprised. I really shouldn't. Not from Lamb and Funkadelia. What does surprise me is that Wolf would actually tolerate all of this. But whatever.

So, hopefully that has cleared up the confusion about why I oppose your coup. I just want all of it to be 100% clear when I bring your regime crashing down.

And Aleister's response:

I'm aware you have nothing left in this game, you didn't need to elaborate.

Have a blast wasting your time and money.

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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:02 pm

...and?

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Aleister
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Postby Aleister » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:05 pm

As long as you're having fun, you know, wasting your time and money can be a really beneficial activity. :kiss:

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Aclion
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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:06 pm

I still don't understand how anyone could be thick enough to fall for it in the first place.
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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:15 pm

Aclion wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could be thick enough to fall for it in the first place.


Still don't understand how anyone can fall for the Defender propaganda, so that makes two of us.

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Pencil Sharpeners 2
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Postby Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:04 pm

You’re walking in the woods. There’s no-one around and your phone is dead. Out of the corner of your eye you spot him.

Evil Wolf.

This is the sight that has greeted many weary NS travellers who have strayed too close to the boundaries of Lazarus, a region which is now under the control of Lone Wolves United. United they may be, but lone they certainly aren’t, as packs are regularly seen prowling the wilderness around the burning wreckage that used to be Lazarus. This has caused some concern among the neighbours of Lazarus. I spoke to a citizen of Balder, who wishes to stay anonymous so I will simply refer to as ‘Jaime’, who got too close to these wolf-infested lands.

“It’s insane,” declares a wide-eyed Jaime, clutching the bloody stump of his wrist, “I thought these were just some raiders who called themselves wolves, not actual literal wolves! These wolves don’t care for gameplay allegiances, they care only for their next meal, which was nearly me!” As with most regions, Balder’s defences are not prepared to deal with packs of bloodthirsty wolves, which has led to worries for citizens’ safety. “We’re all pretty scared,” admits Jaime, “Wolves are a totally different threat to Defenders. They’ve got bigger teeth and bigger appetites.”

The South Pacific, by contrast, is a safe distance away from Lazarus, but that does not mean its government is resting on its laurels. Tim Stark, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, is monitoring the situation closely. “Obviously, this is a bizarre situation for all of NationStates. We are used to dealing with the likes of Raiders, Defenders, Independents, and Imperialists, but actual wolves are something we’ve never come across before. They're not interested in updates or triggers, and their diplomacy consists of ripping the throat out of anything that moves. It’s certainly a challenge.”

TSP’s Prime Minister, Roavin, is also wary of this new development. “Normally I like to defend any region that gets attacked, but I’m not defending anything from these wolves. Most raiders like to eat normal human foods, like pot noodle or pizza, but wolves who feast on human flesh? I think I’ll leave them alone.”

Regions are quickly having to find ways to deal with this new threat. The Rejected Realms, a region which borders Lazarus, is fortunate enough to receive a steady stream of rejected nations, which immediately get dumped at the border to placate the ravenous pack of wolves.

“We have to do something to protect our citizens,” says a spokesperson, “it’s unfortunate that innocent nations have to be sacrificed in order to do this, but the alternative doesn’t bear thinking about. We want to find a way of securing our border with Lazarus, but we currently don’t have anyone brave enough to venture that close to the domain of the wolves.”

The NS admins have been contacted to hopefully shed some light on how a literal pack of wolves has entered NationStates. However, the only response so far has been some distant-sounding screaming, followed by silence. This kind of event is unprecedented, and the only thing we can do is pray to [v] that a solution will be found before the wolves eat any more players.
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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:19 pm

Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:-snip-


Best post of the entire thread.

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Aleister
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Postby Aleister » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:23 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:-snip-


Best post of the entire thread.

I concur. :rofl:

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Postby Eluvatar » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:17 pm

I ain't afraid of no ghosts wolves.
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Orange Wolf
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Postby Orange Wolf » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:20 pm

Eluvatar wrote:I ain't afraid of no ghosts wolves.

You should be. :twisted:

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Davelands
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Postby Davelands » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:59 pm

NOTICE ON THE SITUATIONS IN THE EAST PACIFIC AND LAZARUS


The West Pacific has a long and proud history of supporting the sovereignty of the Delegacy. Recently, a couple of regions have tested that resolve.

The East Pacific has witnessed some unique changes this past week. Some of those changes have been extremely positive and some, quite frankly, have been perplexing. However, we stand strongly behind The East Pacific and their Delegate. The changes are in line with what a legitimate Delegate can do and although the moves have not been universally accepted, they are legal. We remain as always close friends with The East Pacific.

Unfortunately, Lazarus is now in a quite different situation. Although the Delegate is legitimate, and it is his right to make the changes he deems necessary, the changes that were made and the way they have been executed goes against TWP’s values. Because of that I am announcing the following:

1. Effective immediately, all piling troops from TWPAF will exit the region. In our opinion, the crisis to the Delegacy has passed and there is no further need to tie up troops in a region with a secure Delegate.

2. Also effective immediately, The West Pacific is suspending The Chol Covenant. The changes made in Lazarus by the Delegate has thrown the region into chaos and (more importantly) the handling of this chaos has only caused more strife both inside and outside of the region. We have confidence that the leadership of Lazarus can take concrete steps to diffuse their situation and become a stable, reliable GCR partner so we can reopen The Chol Covenant in the future.
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Postby Hessere » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:11 pm

And now... the fallout :)
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