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[McChimp]

It's a Lazarene flag.

[Big Bad Badger]

The blatant denial of reality by the LWU here is just ridiculous to the extreme.

Is it as ridiculous as Gilgamesh announcing a merger with Gatesville? Because that was pretty fucking ridiculous.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

The blatant denial of reality by the LWU here is just ridiculous to the extreme.

Is it as ridiculous as Gilgamesh announcing a merger with Gatesville? Because that was pretty fucking ridiculous.

So its a TWp flag or a LWU or laz flag...? is there a difference these days with them?

[The Church of Satan]

Is it as ridiculous as Gilgamesh announcing a merger with Gatesville? Because that was pretty fucking ridiculous.

I'm gonna go ahead and say yes because they're basically looking at an apple and saying "Behold the citrusy doom of my orange!" Meanwhile everyone else is saying "Why's that guy raving about oranges near that apple?"

[Galiantus III]

The blatant denial of reality by the LWU here is just ridiculous to the extreme.

Is it as ridiculous as Gilgamesh announcing a merger with Gatesville? Because that was pretty fucking ridiculous.

Well this is off topic. And what about that was ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous going on right now is the LWU flying their symbol above Lazarus in bright neon colors whilst expecting the rest of us to believe they aren't in control of Lazarus. That's some hard-core, bold-faced lying going on right there.

[Delescluze]

Is it as ridiculous as Gilgamesh announcing a merger with Gatesville? Because that was pretty fucking ridiculous.

Well this is off topic. And what about that was ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous going on right now is the LWU flying their symbol above Lazarus in bright neon colors whilst expecting the rest of us to believe they aren't in control of Lazarus. That's some hard-core, bold-faced lying going on right there.

No matter how hard you try, it's still not the LWU flag.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

Well this is off topic. And what about that was ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous going on right now is the LWU flying their symbol above Lazarus in bright neon colors whilst expecting the rest of us to believe they aren't in control of Lazarus. That's some hard-core, bold-faced lying going on right there.

No matter how hard you try, it's still not the LWU flag.

they just loook identical for giggles..

nice to see laz's P.R department is still in need of help.

if you keep saying it over and over and over... it will come true.

[Galiantus III]

Well this is off topic. And what about that was ridiculous? The only thing ridiculous going on right now is the LWU flying their symbol above Lazarus in bright neon colors whilst expecting the rest of us to believe they aren't in control of Lazarus. That's some hard-core, bold-faced lying going on right there.

No matter how hard you try, it's still not the LWU flag.

Lone Wolves Flag:

Current Lazarus flag:


Different colors, different art, sure. But same layout, same symbols, and (most importantly) same people behind it. There is a very strong connection here, and I'd be stupid not to notice. For all intents and purposes, the LWU currently flies its flag over Lazarus. Need I spell it out more plainly for the benefit of your ability to comprehend?

[Vadia]

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

You claimed that those in control of the Khanate of Lazarus are long term sleepers, "essentially". The implication of that thought process is very telling indeed.

You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda.

Funny...I don't remember Lone Wolves United ever calming to have taken Lazarus. Did I miss a dispatch or an article? Would you please point out where you're getting your information from?

You've seen the current flag of Lazarus right?

Lazarus has themes of rebirth, phoenix, and so on....It's never had a theme before of wolves.

Also the wolfist motto and all of that...Are you implying that's new or old or what?

[Delescluze]

No matter how hard you try, it's still not the LWU flag.

Lone Wolves Flag:

Current Lazarus flag:


Different colors, different art, sure. But same layout, same symbols, and (most importantly) same people behind it. There is a very strong connection here, and I'd be stupid not to notice. For all intents and purposes, the LWU currently flies its flag over Lazarus. Need I spell it out more plainly for the benefit of your ability to comprehend?

What you've just told me is that they're not the same flag, which is what I said in response to the first post quoted.

[Indo-Malaysia]

No matter how hard you try, it's still not the LWU flag.

Lone Wolves Flag:

Current Lazarus flag:


Different colors, different art, sure. But same layout, same symbols, and (most importantly) same people behind it. There is a very strong connection here, and I'd be stupid not to notice. For all intents and purposes, the LWU currently flies its flag over Lazarus. Need I spell it out more plainly for the benefit of your ability to comprehend?

Someone needs to blast the Sienfeld theme now...

[Ikania]

There seems to be an interesting logic on behalf of the coup government that such long-term natives as Evil Wolf and Funkadelia are, by nature of their long residency, incapable of betraying their region and selling it out to a foreign power. Yet, when Wintermoot, Harmoneia and countless other natives were ejected, it was because their entirely legal and public efforts to preserve the rule of law was somehow attempted treason, and the length of our residence only spoke volumes to our commitment to harm the region. It is, contrary to what they would have you believe, entirely possible and indeed true, that there are quislings in Lazarus.

There is then another logical leap whereby foreign invaders such as Balder and the West Pacific piling onto the Delegacy is not at all an undermining of our sovereignty; it is simply Lazarus having allies. Yet, when TSP and TRR uphold their treaty obligations to defend their allies, the legitimate government of Lazarus (which was, in fact, never legally dissolved), it is portrayed as a foreign coup attempt.

When we function without foreign allies, we are domestic ideological subversives, despite having no official ideology nor will to make Lazarus a defender region. When we call in our allies, it is portrayed as foreign defender subversion, because the nominally-independent but entirely raider/imperialist governments of the coup government's collaborators are clearly free from ideological taint and can do no wrong.

It is only further baseless insult to deny the obvious. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies a flag with a duck on it, it might just be a duck. The destruction of the Lazarene community is frustrating and regrettable as is; what is possibly the most infuriating is how far beyond the confines of common sense this regime is willing to go in order to deny what has happened. The wolf flag flies over a GCR, it functions as a personal union with the highest echelons of a raider organization. The rhetoric has shifted from protecting independence to raider supremacism.

The "Undead Dominion" and its equally tainted successor regime was built by lie upon lie, bent on discrediting trustworthy sources and distorting the truth. There are facts universally acknowledged by all with a critical mind to think that will still yet be dismissed like one of Sean Spicer's press conferences. And make no mistake, the allies of the traitors are equally culpable. They have enabled this to happen, capitalizing on rhetoric and making two-faced attempts to hold us to our inviolable democratic principles while letting anything their allies do fly. It is a double standard that rings shamefully close to real life examples occurring around the world right now, in America, in Russia, and abroad.

There is nothing we, the democratic GCRs and libertine thinkers of gameplay, can do to sate them. We give an inch, they will take a mile. We kept to our ideals and refrained from underhanded or illegal actions. This enabled the coup. We staunchly rejected theories of outside involvement and enabling on the part of regions like Balder, Osiris and the West Pacific, because it wasn't conducive to diplomacy. These efforts were inconsequential to the eventual decision for them to back this coup, which had never been in doubt from their perspective. We disowned sources spreading information these powers found controversial, we were declined help from defender organizations to avoid negative publicity through GCR meddling.

All the while, the pilers increased. The infiltrations were run, the lies were told, and the government of the coup was not only enabled but encouraged by allies and backers who completely lacked the moral principles that they tried to hold us to. What is there to separate us from them, they say, if we aren't 100% perfect? The truth is, it was, and always has been, an act. They don't care. I don't write this so much as a spited condemnation toward the traitors, who know well of my disdain, but to everyone who sat on the sidelines, refused to take sides, and insisted that we sort out our own problems and prove our worth as the community of Lazarus.

Verbal support only gets you so far. I greatly appreciate the words of the NPO, who, if anything, know how to stay true to dogma. Their intervention was sorely missed, and the circumstances are entirely understandable. But that highlights the fact that what we could do was not enough. Our unendorsement campaigns were successful beyond our most optimistic predictions. The endorsements on the perpetrators of these crimes were whittled away while brave natives took a stand. The people of Lazarus, those who could be bothered to move beyond issue answering, indifference, or the lack of will to get involved, made a wonderful effort. But it was not enough. And the helpful aid of our allies in the South Pacific, the Rejected Realms and various others was, of course, remarkable and very appreciated. But still not enough.

At the end of the day, natives continue to be ejected, a foreign flag flies over Lazarus. Fake natives have rolled into the region, like the Septimanian Marches, who is undoubtedly a puppet of some foreigner, and does a pathetic job of posing as a native. Lamb portrays himself as the savior of Lazarus; he quit the Grey Wardens and came to Lazarus only to serve Funkadelia in the last year or so. Foreign pilers prop up a regime that claims native support. Because you see, when they are in power, it is the will of the Lazarene people that it be so. Yet at the same time, clearly the government of Lazarus has a right to defend itself against... its own people? When they toe the line and comply, they are exercising their right to support who they will. When they resist, then they are being misled. There is no satisfactory way to oppose the incumbent regime without being labeled a defender subversive or sympathizer.

In this they have attempted to fight a propaganda war painting the movement for democracy to be synonymous with ideological defenderism. This has never been the case, and never will be. They first meant to give the lies in moderation; the enemy is defenders, and look at all the defenders who want democracy! Defenders want it, so it must be bad. And when it was convenient, as it is now, the enemy is now whoever lifts a finger. Not as a defender, but as someone "corrupted" by defenders. Independents, people completely uninvolved in gameplay, long-time natives who only want their region back, all have been lumped into one big pile of "defenders" and swept out of the region. Now it is simply not enough to have your own opinion and keep it to yourself. Dissent to the new raider regime will not be tolerated, because the people want Lazarus to be this way. If you don't, you are a defender. And a defender is not Lazarene.

The choice is clear. Opportunists and traitors have seized Lazarus, and now attempt to dismiss facts and logic as defender propaganda. Their allies enable them, cover up for them, and produce double standards, waxing poetic about regional sovereignty while undermining it in the most egregious way. The regime is built on lies. Their allied support is a towering stack of lies, each more bold than the other. We now only find ourselves separated by those who will not buy it, and those who insist on perpetuating it nonetheless. This isn't the end of such conflict. And no one should be under any illusions that they do not intend to do it further in pursuit of their dishonest agenda.

It is us today, it will be you tomorrow.

[Galiantus III]

Lone Wolves Flag:
(Image)

Current Lazarus flag:
(Image)

Different colors, different art, sure. But same layout, same symbols, and (most importantly) same people behind it. There is a very strong connection here, and I'd be stupid not to notice. For all intents and purposes, the LWU currently flies its flag over Lazarus. Need I spell it out more plainly for the benefit of your ability to comprehend?

What you've just told me is that they're not the same flag, which is what I said in response to the first post quoted.

I know they aren't exactly the same. But they are both flags of Lone Wolves United.

What I want you to explain to me is why they're so similar: Wolf in crescent, in the center, made by the same people? With such obvious copying, why isn't LWU calling plagiarism? Or why is it that the same people flying both flags are members of the Lone Wolves? You know very well what you're doing. The only reason you aren't admitting to your lies is because you are trying to keep the natives of Lazarus in the dark about your coup last summer. So long as you can keep them believing that yourself and the rest of LWU are not invaders, you can more easily control the region. No one who frequents the GP forums actually believes you; and the only ones who say they do are those who would support the LWU regardless of their actions. Everything disproves any claim you make about the LWU not having conquered Lazarus.

[Vadia]

No one who is saying anything pro LWU, believes a single word they said. Either that, or they believe their own myth and are capable of believing that they at war with Eurasia and have always been at war with Eurasia.

The story has changed, it's argued against itself, it didn't make any sense, and yet they keep telling the story.

This is because they have to pretend they believe what they are saying, because either a lack of will or... well... Because they don't know it's possible to just admit what they are doing.

It's like a corporation admitting it likes making money. They don't say it outloud, but everyone should know they are thinking it.

Or when Advil tells you "The other brand will make you hurt after four hours, but one Advil a day is all you need." However, every single pain medication brand says this, and you can get all of them for cheaper if you buy generic. Notice how none of these brands say "Ibueprophin is chosen by the military after long workout sessions, to prevent soreness and stiffness", despite that being true. They can't talk about the ingredients, or what makes their pain medication special, because then they can't sell the brand or claim their pill is a wonderdrug.

That is what I am seeing. It's tired.

[Aflana]

Lazarus has Similar flag to Lone Wolves United
The region delegate and most officers are apart of Lone Wolves United
Aleister is Khan of Lazarus. Lamb Stone is Khan of Lone Wolves United
Quarillin, Haullronia, and many other nations are moving from Lone Wolves United to Lazarus and endorsing Aleister.

If you're denying that Lazarus has not been taken over by Lone Wolves United, then you're blind.

[Delescluze]

What you've just told me is that they're not the same flag, which is what I said in response to the first post quoted.

I know they aren't exactly the same. But they are both flags of Lone Wolves United.

No they aren't. The flag over Lazarus was created exclusively for Lazarus and symbolizes our devotion to Wolfism. Your attempts to discredit us are going further and further down a bizarre rabbit hole.

[Aflana]

I know they aren't exactly the same. But they are both flags of Lone Wolves United.

No they aren't. The flag over Lazarus was created exclusively for Lazarus and symbolizes our devotion to Wolfism. Your attempts to discredit us are going further and further down a bizarre rabbit hole.

Can you explain the foreign pilers from Lone Wolves United and the extremely similar theme, and even having your delegate called "Khan" from Lones Wolves United?

[Vadia]

I know they aren't exactly the same. But they are both flags of Lone Wolves United.

No they aren't. The flag over Lazarus was created exclusively for Lazarus and symbolizes our devotion to Wolfism. Your attempts to discredit us are going further and further down a bizarre rabbit hole.

What even is "Wolfism"? How come LWU hasn't commented on your flag matching theirs or you "stealing" their branding, expressions, or tones?

How are you or they going to recruit, if we can't tell you apart?

Not buying it.

[Indo-Malaysia]

I know they aren't exactly the same. But they are both flags of Lone Wolves United.

No they aren't. The flag over Lazarus was created exclusively for Lazarus and symbolizes our devotion to Wolfism. Your attempts to discredit us are going further and further down a bizarre rabbit hole.

*sniff*

Is that bullshit?

[Lenlyvit]

Guys, arguing in this thread isn't going to solve one iota. Actions solve problems better than words in some instances, and this is one of them. You're all just giving LWU the attention they crave.

(No, I am not on LWUs side. No, I don't condone their takeover of Laz. I'm just tired of going around in circles.)

[Sarakart]

As frustrating as it can feel, it's not clear to me why LWU would actually cop or admit to it when they rely on the native population's endorsements and support.

They converse with local figures like Tubbius and work hard to present themselves internally on the RMB as a native force. Yes, it can seem obvious to people here, but that doesn't really matter when it comes to Lazarus' internal politics. I don't think it's just a matter of trolling, either- saying they're invaders is tantamount to surrendering any claim they have to being the legitimate integrated leaders of Lazarus. If they were in a position to do so independently, sure, but they do actually need the support of the region because they don't have 300 pilers backing them, even if they have allied support. It doesn't even matter if a few dozen natives withdraw support- they just need enough of the natives to back them, and the ones who speak up loudly enough are suppressed on the RMB and eventually banjected.

But if literally no one in Lazarus backs them then they're making their delegacy harder to hold for no particular gain to themselves except to assuage their opposition, which would want to replace them regardless.

[Vadia]

As frustrating as it can feel, it's not clear to me why LWU would actually cop or admit to it when they rely on the native population's endorsements and support.

They converse with local figures like Tubbius and work hard to present themselves internally on the RMB as a native force. Yes, it can seem obvious to people here, but that doesn't really matter when it comes to Lazarus' internal politics. I don't think it's just a matter of trolling, either- saying they're invaders is tantamount to surrendering any claim they have to being the legitimate integrated leaders of Lazarus. If they were in a position to do so independently, sure, but they do actually need the support of the region because they don't have 300 pilers backing them, even if they have allied support. It doesn't even matter if a few dozen natives withdraw support- they just need enough of the natives to back them, and the ones who speak up loudly enough are suppressed on the RMB and eventually banjected.

But if literally no one in Lazarus backs them then they're making their delegacy harder to hold for no particular gain to themselves except to assuage their opposition, which would want to replace them regardless.

Considering how many natives they banned, I don't think they really need a lot of native support or have it. Natives come and go, natives get purged, natives don't even join the WA.

Overall, I don't they they need native support.

[The Honest Wolfist]

There seems to be an interesting logic on behalf of the coup government that such long-term natives as Evil Wolf and Funkadelia are, by nature of their long residency, incapable of betraying their region and selling it out to a foreign power. Yet, when Wintermoot, Harmoneia and countless other natives were ejected, it was because their entirely legal and public efforts to preserve the rule of law was somehow attempted treason, and the length of our residence only spoke volumes to our commitment to harm the region. It is, contrary to what they would have you believe, entirely possible and indeed true, that there are quislings in Lazarus.

There is then another logical leap whereby foreign invaders such as Balder and the West Pacific piling onto the Delegacy is not at all an undermining of our sovereignty; it is simply Lazarus having allies. Yet, when TSP and TRR uphold their treaty obligations to defend their allies, the legitimate government of Lazarus (which was, in fact, never legally dissolved), it is portrayed as a foreign coup attempt.

When we function without foreign allies, we are domestic ideological subversives, despite having no official ideology nor will to make Lazarus a defender region. When we call in our allies, it is portrayed as foreign defender subversion, because the nominally-independent but entirely raider/imperialist governments of the coup government's collaborators are clearly free from ideological taint and can do no wrong.

It is only further baseless insult to deny the obvious. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies a flag with a duck on it, it might just be a duck. The destruction of the Lazarene community is frustrating and regrettable as is; what is possibly the most infuriating is how far beyond the confines of common sense this regime is willing to go in order to deny what has happened. The wolf flag flies over a GCR, it functions as a personal union with the highest echelons of a raider organization. The rhetoric has shifted from protecting independence to raider supremacism.

The "Undead Dominion" and its equally tainted successor regime was built by lie upon lie, bent on discrediting trustworthy sources and distorting the truth. There are facts universally acknowledged by all with a critical mind to think that will still yet be dismissed like one of Sean Spicer's press conferences. And make no mistake, the allies of the traitors are equally culpable. They have enabled this to happen, capitalizing on rhetoric and making two-faced attempts to hold us to our inviolable democratic principles while letting anything their allies do fly. It is a double standard that rings shamefully close to real life examples occurring around the world right now, in America, in Russia, and abroad.

There is nothing we, the democratic GCRs and libertine thinkers of gameplay, can do to sate them. We give an inch, they will take a mile. We kept to our ideals and refrained from underhanded or illegal actions. This enabled the coup. We staunchly rejected theories of outside involvement and enabling on the part of regions like Balder, Osiris and the West Pacific, because it wasn't conducive to diplomacy. These efforts were inconsequential to the eventual decision for them to back this coup, which had never been in doubt from their perspective. We disowned sources spreading information these powers found controversial, we were declined help from defender organizations to avoid negative publicity through GCR meddling.

All the while, the pilers increased. The infiltrations were run, the lies were told, and the government of the coup was not only enabled but encouraged by allies and backers who completely lacked the moral principles that they tried to hold us to. What is there to separate us from them, they say, if we aren't 100% perfect? The truth is, it was, and always has been, an act. They don't care. I don't write this so much as a spited condemnation toward the traitors, who know well of my disdain, but to everyone who sat on the sidelines, refused to take sides, and insisted that we sort out our own problems and prove our worth as the community of Lazarus.

Verbal support only gets you so far. I greatly appreciate the words of the NPO, who, if anything, know how to stay true to dogma. Their intervention was sorely missed, and the circumstances are entirely understandable. But that highlights the fact that what we could do was not enough. Our unendorsement campaigns were successful beyond our most optimistic predictions. The endorsements on the perpetrators of these crimes were whittled away while brave natives took a stand. The people of Lazarus, those who could be bothered to move beyond issue answering, indifference, or the lack of will to get involved, made a wonderful effort. But it was not enough. And the helpful aid of our allies in the South Pacific, the Rejected Realms and various others was, of course, remarkable and very appreciated. But still not enough.

At the end of the day, natives continue to be ejected, a foreign flag flies over Lazarus. Fake natives have rolled into the region, like the Septimanian Marches, who is undoubtedly a puppet of some foreigner, and does a pathetic job of posing as a native. Lamb portrays himself as the savior of Lazarus; he quit the Grey Wardens and came to Lazarus only to serve Funkadelia in the last year or so. Foreign pilers prop up a regime that claims native support. Because you see, when they are in power, it is the will of the Lazarene people that it be so. Yet at the same time, clearly the government of Lazarus has a right to defend itself against... its own people? When they toe the line and comply, they are exercising their right to support who they will. When they resist, then they are being misled. There is no satisfactory way to oppose the incumbent regime without being labeled a defender subversive or sympathizer.

In this they have attempted to fight a propaganda war painting the movement for democracy to be synonymous with ideological defenderism. This has never been the case, and never will be. They first meant to give the lies in moderation; the enemy is defenders, and look at all the defenders who want democracy! Defenders want it, so it must be bad. And when it was convenient, as it is now, the enemy is now whoever lifts a finger. Not as a defender, but as someone "corrupted" by defenders. Independents, people completely uninvolved in gameplay, long-time natives who only want their region back, all have been lumped into one big pile of "defenders" and swept out of the region. Now it is simply not enough to have your own opinion and keep it to yourself. Dissent to the new raider regime will not be tolerated, because the people want Lazarus to be this way. If you don't, you are a defender. And a defender is not Lazarene.

The choice is clear. Opportunists and traitors have seized Lazarus, and now attempt to dismiss facts and logic as defender propaganda. Their allies enable them, cover up for them, and produce double standards, waxing poetic about regional sovereignty while undermining it in the most egregious way. The regime is built on lies. Their allied support is a towering stack of lies, each more bold than the other. We now only find ourselves separated by those who will not buy it, and those who insist on perpetuating it nonetheless. This isn't the end of such conflict. And no one should be under any illusions that they do not intend to do it further in pursuit of their dishonest agenda.

It is us today, it will be you tomorrow.

You attempted to overthrow the legal government. That is treason. You are a traitor.

TWP and Balder are protecting the legal government. TSP and TRR are defender puppets trying to finish the job you, a defender subversive, failed to manage.

You are functioning with significant support from Defenderist allies, you are a Defenderist. You are a subversive.

Defender subversives have been cut from the Lazarene community. What remains is committed to Lazarus' independence. It has chosen the Wolfist ideology, which you as a Defenderist obviously hate, and flies the flag to match. You yourself must bear some responsibility for the new raider-leaning stance because it was your ham-fistedness and illegal activity that lead to the ejection of all of the pro-defenders in Lazarus. Every criticism you make here is of yourself, in part.

Defender sources are not trustworthy. You violated these inviolable principles yourself. You made the most rhetorical speeches yourself: they are in this thread.

You attempted a coup. You are not an angel. You don't look like an angel. Stop pretending to be an angel. It's obvious, it's not helping you. The resistance definitely did seek outside help. There was a big scandal, if it's convenient for you to recall.

That's right. Only the defender puppets ran to help you. Not surprising, really.

The defenders only seem keen to allow democracies to exist where they are dominated by defenders. The wolfists take issue with that, not democracy itself.

The choice is between a Defenderist regime disguised as a democracy, dominated by an oligarchy of defenders who write long walls of text with no meaning and pursue their agenda covertly or an honest pro-raider government that has clear, transparent policies.

[Sarakart]

Why is a puppet talking about puppets

[Vadia]

There seems to be an interesting logic on behalf of the coup government that such long-term natives as Evil Wolf and Funkadelia are, by nature of their long residency, incapable of betraying their region and selling it out to a foreign power. Yet, when Wintermoot, Harmoneia and countless other natives were ejected, it was because their entirely legal and public efforts to preserve the rule of law was somehow attempted treason, and the length of our residence only spoke volumes to our commitment to harm the region. It is, contrary to what they would have you believe, entirely possible and indeed true, that there are quislings in Lazarus.

There is then another logical leap whereby foreign invaders such as Balder and the West Pacific piling onto the Delegacy is not at all an undermining of our sovereignty; it is simply Lazarus having allies. Yet, when TSP and TRR uphold their treaty obligations to defend their allies, the legitimate government of Lazarus (which was, in fact, never legally dissolved), it is portrayed as a foreign coup attempt.

When we function without foreign allies, we are domestic ideological subversives, despite having no official ideology nor will to make Lazarus a defender region. When we call in our allies, it is portrayed as foreign defender subversion, because the nominally-independent but entirely raider/imperialist governments of the coup government's collaborators are clearly free from ideological taint and can do no wrong.

It is only further baseless insult to deny the obvious. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies a flag with a duck on it, it might just be a duck. The destruction of the Lazarene community is frustrating and regrettable as is; what is possibly the most infuriating is how far beyond the confines of common sense this regime is willing to go in order to deny what has happened. The wolf flag flies over a GCR, it functions as a personal union with the highest echelons of a raider organization. The rhetoric has shifted from protecting independence to raider supremacism.

The "Undead Dominion" and its equally tainted successor regime was built by lie upon lie, bent on discrediting trustworthy sources and distorting the truth. There are facts universally acknowledged by all with a critical mind to think that will still yet be dismissed like one of Sean Spicer's press conferences. And make no mistake, the allies of the traitors are equally culpable. They have enabled this to happen, capitalizing on rhetoric and making two-faced attempts to hold us to our inviolable democratic principles while letting anything their allies do fly. It is a double standard that rings shamefully close to real life examples occurring around the world right now, in America, in Russia, and abroad.

There is nothing we, the democratic GCRs and libertine thinkers of gameplay, can do to sate them. We give an inch, they will take a mile. We kept to our ideals and refrained from underhanded or illegal actions. This enabled the coup. We staunchly rejected theories of outside involvement and enabling on the part of regions like Balder, Osiris and the West Pacific, because it wasn't conducive to diplomacy. These efforts were inconsequential to the eventual decision for them to back this coup, which had never been in doubt from their perspective. We disowned sources spreading information these powers found controversial, we were declined help from defender organizations to avoid negative publicity through GCR meddling.

All the while, the pilers increased. The infiltrations were run, the lies were told, and the government of the coup was not only enabled but encouraged by allies and backers who completely lacked the moral principles that they tried to hold us to. What is there to separate us from them, they say, if we aren't 100% perfect? The truth is, it was, and always has been, an act. They don't care. I don't write this so much as a spited condemnation toward the traitors, who know well of my disdain, but to everyone who sat on the sidelines, refused to take sides, and insisted that we sort out our own problems and prove our worth as the community of Lazarus.

Verbal support only gets you so far. I greatly appreciate the words of the NPO, who, if anything, know how to stay true to dogma. Their intervention was sorely missed, and the circumstances are entirely understandable. But that highlights the fact that what we could do was not enough. Our unendorsement campaigns were successful beyond our most optimistic predictions. The endorsements on the perpetrators of these crimes were whittled away while brave natives took a stand. The people of Lazarus, those who could be bothered to move beyond issue answering, indifference, or the lack of will to get involved, made a wonderful effort. But it was not enough. And the helpful aid of our allies in the South Pacific, the Rejected Realms and various others was, of course, remarkable and very appreciated. But still not enough.

At the end of the day, natives continue to be ejected, a foreign flag flies over Lazarus. Fake natives have rolled into the region, like the Septimanian Marches, who is undoubtedly a puppet of some foreigner, and does a pathetic job of posing as a native. Lamb portrays himself as the savior of Lazarus; he quit the Grey Wardens and came to Lazarus only to serve Funkadelia in the last year or so. Foreign pilers prop up a regime that claims native support. Because you see, when they are in power, it is the will of the Lazarene people that it be so. Yet at the same time, clearly the government of Lazarus has a right to defend itself against... its own people? When they toe the line and comply, they are exercising their right to support who they will. When they resist, then they are being misled. There is no satisfactory way to oppose the incumbent regime without being labeled a defender subversive or sympathizer.

In this they have attempted to fight a propaganda war painting the movement for democracy to be synonymous with ideological defenderism. This has never been the case, and never will be. They first meant to give the lies in moderation; the enemy is defenders, and look at all the defenders who want democracy! Defenders want it, so it must be bad. And when it was convenient, as it is now, the enemy is now whoever lifts a finger. Not as a defender, but as someone "corrupted" by defenders. Independents, people completely uninvolved in gameplay, long-time natives who only want their region back, all have been lumped into one big pile of "defenders" and swept out of the region. Now it is simply not enough to have your own opinion and keep it to yourself. Dissent to the new raider regime will not be tolerated, because the people want Lazarus to be this way. If you don't, you are a defender. And a defender is not Lazarene.

The choice is clear. Opportunists and traitors have seized Lazarus, and now attempt to dismiss facts and logic as defender propaganda. Their allies enable them, cover up for them, and produce double standards, waxing poetic about regional sovereignty while undermining it in the most egregious way. The regime is built on lies. Their allied support is a towering stack of lies, each more bold than the other. We now only find ourselves separated by those who will not buy it, and those who insist on perpetuating it nonetheless. This isn't the end of such conflict. And no one should be under any illusions that they do not intend to do it further in pursuit of their dishonest agenda.

It is us today, it will be you tomorrow.

You attempted to overthrow the legal government. That is treason. You are a traitor.

TWP and Balder are protecting the legal government. TSP and TRR are defender puppets trying to finish the job you, a defender subversive, failed to manage.

You are functioning with significant support from Defenderist allies, you are a Defenderist. You are a subversive.

Defender subversives have been cut from the Lazarene community. What remains is committed to Lazarus' independence. It has chosen the Wolfist ideology, which you as a Defenderist obviously hate, and flies the flag to match. You yourself must bear some responsibility for the new raider-leaning stance because it was your ham-fistedness and illegal activity that lead to the ejection of all of the pro-defenders in Lazarus. Every criticism you make here is of yourself, in part.

Defender sources are not trustworthy. You violated these inviolable principles yourself. You made the most rhetorical speeches yourself: they are in this thread.

You attempted a coup. You are not an angel. You don't look like an angel. Stop pretending to be an angel. It's obvious, it's not helping you. The resistance definitely did seek outside help. There was a big scandal, if it's convenient for you to recall.

That's right. Only the defender puppets ran to help you. Not surprising, really.

The defenders only seem keen to allow democracies to exist where they are dominated by defenders. The wolfists take issue with that, not democracy itself.

The choice is between a Defenderist regime disguised as a democracy, dominated by an oligarchy of defenders who write long walls of text with no meaning and pursue their agenda covertly or an honest pro-raider government that has clear, transparent policies.

Nation born literally today, calls another nation a traitor.

Half of the updaters last year, were raiders. I was there, I'm a raider, I worked with raiders, I led raids, I learned to R&D from raiders, I worked with several different groups of raiders.

Our side has raiders on it, your side doesn't have any defenders... Why is that?