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[Aflana]

I was a citizen of Lazarus for months and an endorser of Funkadelia for months, and now I was banjected from Lazarus along with several other citizens. This broke the consitution of the dominion of Lazarus, which stated that citizens have the right to a fair trial. And I don't see a trial! I never even got an explanation when I asked in the Lazarus discord.

Me, and the several other citizens who were banjected, deserve an explanation! This is outrageous! I wasn't even on nationstates for a few days and I come back banjected!

And when and where was this constitutional change voted?

[Lenlyvit]

I was a citizen of Lazarus for months and an endorser of Funkadelia for months, and now I was banjected from Lazarus along with several other citizens. This broke the consitution of the dominion of Lazarus, which stated that citizens have the right to a fair trial. And I don't see a trial! I never even got an explanation when I asked in the Lazarus discord.

Me, and the several other citizens who were banjected, deserve an explanation! This is outrageous! I wasn't even on nationstates for a few days and I come back banjected!

And when and where was this constitutional change voted?

Welcome to Laz coup part 2. I was in the same spot 8 months ago before they first took Laz.

[Kurnugia]

POPCORN GRAB INTENSIFIES

I was a citizen of Lazarus for months and an endorser of Funkadelia for months, and now I was banjected from Lazarus along with several other citizens. This broke the consitution of the dominion of Lazarus, which stated that citizens have the right to a fair trial. And I don't see a trial! I never even got an explanation when I asked in the Lazarus discord.

Me, and the several other citizens who were banjected, deserve an explanation! This is outrageous! I wasn't even on nationstates for a few days and I come back banjected!

And when and where was this constitutional change voted?

[Aclion]

I see funk expelled quite a few familiar faces before he left. There's a certain schadenfreude in see all the people that "didn't want to get involved" being piled into RR.

[Reploid Productions]

*scribbles in her "Things I've Learned About Gameplay" notebook*
Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses. And I thought NSG had the market cornered for deceased equine abuse!

[Old Hope]

*scribbles in her "Things I've Learned About Gameplay" notebook*
Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses. And I thought NSG had the market cornered for deceased equine abuse!

there have been new developments

[Glen-Rhodes]

TSP hasn’t had a relationship with LWU since they went inactive

looks at Lazarus

Glen... Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

I’m referring to 2013, when TSP repealed our treaty with the LWU because they were defunct. Wolf came to TSP to complain that we were being mean and that LWU was actually still alive. We repealed the treaty anyways ^_^

[The South Falls]

*scribbles in her "Things I've Learned About Gameplay" notebook*
Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses. And I thought NSG had the market cornered for deceased equine abuse!

It hit the roof there. But isn't this the fiftieth GCR coup that'll take two years to solve, through disconcerted defender efforts, finally using half the defenders in the entirety of NS to barely squeak by.

[Vespertania]

Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses.

Like a zombie horde of well-beaten Wolves, in this case.

Well, I can't say I didn't see this coming. Of course, I wasn't ejected - left of my own willpower.

Guess we'll see if y'all left in Lazarus didn't just fuck yourselves over with this move. From my view, I'll give the new iteration a month before the NPO just decides to collectively curb-stomp what's left of the region into a protectorate.

[Sarakart]

I had thought there were world assembly rules about invasive species entering non-native regions

[Jar Wattinree]

Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses.

Like a zombie horde of well-beaten Wolves, in this case.

Z-Day came early.

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

Like a zombie horde of well-beaten Wolves, in this case.

Z-Day came early.

*Pumps shotgun and boards up region.*

[Lord Dominator]

I had thought there were world assembly rules about invasive species entering non-native regions

They were very sneaky at being invasive species
And there are, it's just that only Forest cares

[Plagentine]

Why make a manifesto if it's not going to be at least 10 pages of rhetoric?

[Lord Dominator]

*scribbles in her "Things I've Learned About Gameplay" notebook*
Today I learned that nothing ever fucking dies in Gameplay. Ever. Like a zombie horde of well-beaten horses. And I thought NSG had the market cornered for deceased equine abuse!

Well, Lazarus was/is undead...

[Cormactopia Prime]

<snip>

Trying to lose the NPO more allies over Lazarus? You should know by now that the West Pacific respects the right of the gameside Delegate to govern a Feeder or Sinker as he or she sees fit. I know of only one exception to this, which was when the West Pacific's opposition to forum destruction lead them to oppose Gatesville's coup of Osiris because Gatesville chose to involve the Aezean Combine in the coup. Otherwise the West Pacific has remained consistent in its principled stand for the sovereignty and autonomy of the gameside Delegate. It shouldn't be news to you.

You're openly arguing that the West Pacific should change its philosophy to conform to yours. It's one thing to just disagree with their philosophy, but it's another to openly insist that an ally should change their views for you, and question their integrity for refusing to do so. This is, ultimately, why Osiris left the GCR Sovereignty Accords behind, because the NPO could not be trusted to respect their allies' sovereignty and deal with their allies in good faith. There was a time under Pierconium when the NPO could be trusted to respect its allies, but with you at the helm, those days are over.

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

I am very saddened to hear this from a respected GCR Dignitary. A UCR has openly raised flag over a GCR.
I have no idea in which wild fantasy this is still counts as regional sovereignty.

Trying to lose the NPO more allies over Lazarus? You should know by now that the West Pacific respects the right of the gameside Delegate to govern a Feeder or Sinker as he or she sees fit. I know of only one exception to this, which was when the West Pacific's opposition to forum destruction lead them to oppose Gatesville's coup of Osiris because Gatesville chose to involve the Aezean Combine in the coup. Otherwise the West Pacific has remained consistent in its principled stand for the sovereignty and autonomy of the gameside Delegate. It shouldn't be news to you.

Did The West Pacific also support the Brotherhood of Malice trophy period between the KRO and OFO₁?

More directly, did The West Pacific support United RussoAsia's right to give The West Pacific to DEN?

You're openly arguing that the West Pacific should change its philosophy to conform to yours. It's one thing to just disagree with their philosophy, but it's another to openly insist that an ally should change their views for you, and question their integrity for refusing to do so. This is, ultimately, why Osiris left the GCR Sovereignty Accords behind, because the NPO could not be trusted to respect their allies' sovereignty and deal with their allies in good faith. There was a time under Pierconium when the NPO could be trusted to respect its allies, but with you at the helm, those days are over.

Wasn't Pierconium responsible for NPO foreign affairs when OFO₂ left the Accords?

Also, isn't the core NPO stance that alliances by GCRs with UCRs are fraught with the danger of domination by the UCRs, and that GCRs must oppose such domination? Should we expect the NPO to value alliances with other regions over their core values?

[Pherttsylvania]

Oh my, what a turn of events!

[The Church of Satan]

Did we or did we not see this coming last year? We told everyone that Lazarus had become a dictatorial puppet state of LWU when Evil Wolf and Funk overthrew the democratic government but nooooo everyone dismissed it as nothing more than a silly lie spouted by falsely accused "traitors." You have only yourselves to blame. You let this happen. Now you have to deal with it. >_>

[Unibot III]

@Cormac: Actually I believe it was TWP philosophy at one time to oppose foreign takeovers - the key is foreign. They’re different shades of anarchism. One believes the delegacy of a GCR is fair game for all native residents to pursue (a kind of grassroots anarchism), the other believes the delegacy is fair game for anyone including foreign powers to pursue - which endorses imperialism and the annexation of regions against the will of the grassroots community.

This, perhaps technical, distinction is why most coups in the past pretended to not have a direct connection to a foreign power. Gatesville and NPO often failed to provide plausible deniability in those regards...

Truth though is TWP’s own colleagues are involved in this; their position will be decided based on politics and association, rather than ideological consistency.

[Glen-Rhodes]

<snip>

Trying to lose the NPO more allies over Lazarus? You should know by now that the West Pacific respects the right of the gameside Delegate to govern a Feeder or Sinker as he or she sees fit. I know of only one exception to this, which was when the West Pacific's opposition to forum destruction lead them to oppose Gatesville's coup of Osiris because Gatesville chose to involve the Aezean Combine in the coup. Otherwise the West Pacific has remained consistent in its principled stand for the sovereignty and autonomy of the gameside Delegate. It shouldn't be news to you.

You're openly arguing that the West Pacific should change its philosophy to conform to yours. It's one thing to just disagree with their philosophy, but it's another to openly insist that an ally should change their views for you, and question their integrity for refusing to do so. This is, ultimately, why Osiris left the GCR Sovereignty Accords behind, because the NPO could not be trusted to respect their allies' sovereignty and deal with their allies in good faith. There was a time under Pierconium when the NPO could be trusted to respect its allies, but with you at the helm, those days are over.

This is a Certified Hot Take(tm). If TWP didn't have prior knowledge that supporting a userite takeover of a GCR would piss off the NPO (y'know, the whole founders of the Userite vs Feederite thing), then that's TWP's piss poor diplomacy.

[Indo-Malaysia]

I think this 100% validates what the exiles claimed was happening is the truth. I wonder what the other sinkers and Lazarus's new allies will say?

The West Pacific fully supports Lazarus' right to regional sovereignty. Their actions and decisions are just that, theirs. As treatied allies with the region we stand beside Lazarus. Furthermore, any attempt to subvert Lazarus made by outside regions will be met with exteme hostility.

You support regional sovereignty? For Lazarus..

There is no Lazarus. Just a LWU occupied region.

[Panzer Vier]

Technically correct, as anyone who didn't trust fuck is no longer in Lazarus.

Hoping this was a typo, and not intentional

[Aclion]

Technically correct, as anyone who didn't trust fuck is no longer in Lazarus.

Hoping this was a typo, and not intentional

Typo, one I catch myself making a lot, but not this time it seems.
Dunno what that says about me.

[Galiantus III]

The West Pacific fully supports Lazarus' right to regional sovereignty. Their actions and decisions are just that, theirs. As treatied allies with the region we stand beside Lazarus. Furthermore, any attempt to subvert Lazarus made by outside regions will be met with exteme hostility.

I am very saddened to hear this from a respected GCR Dignitary. A UCR has openly raised flag over a GCR.
I have no idea in which wild fantasy this is still counts as regional sovereignty.

Defender UCR's in GCRs have been wiped out for the most part and I am very happy about that fact. The Userite threat however, is still alive and well.

From what you said, do I have to assume that TWP openly chooses Raiderdom and with it, Userite Raiders over the Game Created Regions?
I think this statement of yours requires a whole lot of clarification.

Because If TWP openly confirms full support for userite Raiders and a UCR occupation of a GCR, then it's no better than GCR governments that sold themselves to userite Defenders, Defederdom and the UDL, FRA and ADN menance. Then all this ruin to the GCRs just repeated, visibly so, over and over again - Only that this time, it's in favor of the other side in this rotten R/D GP dichotomy.

Raiders and Defenders are destroying the GCRs and there are people that praise and applaud it. I can't understand it.
It should be a big fat warning sign to all of the Game Created Regions.

GCR purity and allegiance to the GCRs only, is more important than anything else these days. These are dark times.

My respect for the NPO just keeps increasing. This ongoing takeover by LWU is a textbook example of userite subjugation of a GCR for their own gain. The LWU do not care about the natives, they simply want to use Lazarus to build their own empire.

It is disgusting that Lazarus has been made a puppet of the LWU, and that anyone - especially in any GCR - has allowed this to happen. I must ask any GCR who is still on the side of these manipulative, lying usurpers - what will you do when the same happens to you? If you don't value independence from foreign invasion now, why should any of your GCR allies defend you later?

I may have opposed the NPO in the past, but now I see it would plainly be better for Lazarus if it were under the rule of the NPO than these barbarians. I don't think that is the best solution, but it is one I would give my support to if it were to happen, simply because Lazarus would have a better chance at independence than they currently have now.