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New Rogernomics
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Founded: Aug 22, 2006
Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:45 am

At the end of the day, this is a game. Lazarus now has a different community, and people have the option to join in that or not.

Players talked about how Lazarus drastically changed in fabric when the PRL took power. Though I would argue that Milograd and co did a pretty fine job activity wise, despite the bans and intrigue of that administration.This was largely due to Lazarus being in a real slumber, at the very least since some of the old UN/WA delegates had left. Now it has drastically changed again, this time allegedly to the detriment of defenders and some independents.

Ultimately what is done is done, and really you can speculate all day on someone else taking over Lazarus, or on some future victory over the current administration by a resistance movement. But that won't change that for the foreseeable future Funkadelia is the WA Delegate and King of Lazarus.

I was away for a while[1], and I butted heads with Funkadelia and Lamb while I had power there, so not really surprised they don't want me involved there much anymore, and I get that, so I don't concern myself about it. I don't keep grudges or get wound up over things, at least since late 2012[2], when I stopped being all that serious about Gameplay.

I generally find with Gameplay, that eventually you will find groups of people and regions you don't like, or that the game changes beyond what you feel comfortable with. When that happens you can choose to be grumpy about things, develop personal vendettas, or just see regions as they are, fictional creations on an online browser game, which you are free to join in on or not.

[1] Because there is this fun thing called real life, and people have to study, work, do the laundry, date, go to Halloween parties, and not necessarily in that order. :lol:
[2]If it doesn't work out, then take a break. You can chill out on Discord channels, take a walk to the park, play some other game, shoot-em-up, simulation, or strategy. Whatever floats your boat. I should know, as I was perhaps one of the most controversial players of the game a while back in 2011-2012, which wasn't helped by my legit clinical depression troubles.
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Ikania
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Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:22 pm

I remain to be and always will be a Lazarene first and foremost. Regardless of what happens, and whatever lies the traitors in power would like to spin, I hope to return to my home region one day when it is free and diverse, as it should be.
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Knuckle-dragging fuckstick from a backwater GCR. #SPRDNZ
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Roland Prime
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Ex-Nation

Postby Roland Prime » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:38 pm

Ikania wrote:I remain to be and always will be a Lazarene first and foremost. Regardless of what happens, and whatever lies the traitors in power would like to spin, I hope to return to my home region one day when it is free and diverse, as it should be.

As do all citizens of the true government. . .
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The Church of Satan
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Founded: Apr 15, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:52 pm

Funkadelia wrote:There is no need to have goodwill toward a group of nations seeking to assert their own will against the region.

You're totally right. The likes of you and the rest of your LWU goon squad really don't deserve goodwill. I mean, the lot of you did forcefully exert your own will against the region. Just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy you so proudly flaunted, lol.
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Gibraltarica
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Founded: May 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Gibraltarica » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:03 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:There is no need to have goodwill toward a group of nations seeking to assert their own will against the region.

You're totally right. The likes of you and the rest of your LWU goon squad really don't deserve goodwill. I mean, the lot of you did forcefully exert your own will against the region. Just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy you so proudly flaunted, lol.

Still some spice about getting caught red-handed?
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Ikania
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Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:30 pm

Gibraltarica wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:You're totally right. The likes of you and the rest of your LWU goon squad really don't deserve goodwill. I mean, the lot of you did forcefully exert your own will against the region. Just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy you so proudly flaunted, lol.

Still some spice about getting caught red-handed?

Because you're in a position to talk? Perfectly willing to stand up for democracy until the going got rough, then you ditched like a rat, and now spit two-faced lies about us and pretend to have washed your hands clean. You're the worst kind of traitor.
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Cormactopia Prime
Minister
 
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Founded: Sep 21, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Cormactopia Prime » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:11 am

I'd just like to thank KQ for resurrecting this thread, because it was truly what GP needed.

</sarcasm>

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Ikania
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Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:33 pm

Lazarus.
Ike Speardane
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Three-time Defendervision winner. NSG Senate veteran.
Knuckle-dragging fuckstick from a backwater GCR. #SPRDNZ
Land Value Tax would fix this
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Fauxia
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Fauxia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:37 pm

Man, now we just have to lose all our sanity bc Lazarus. I agree with Cormac
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States of Glory
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Ex-Nation

Postby States of Glory » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:16 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'd just like to thank KQ for resurrecting this thread, because it was truly what GP needed.

</sarcasm>

It may not be what GP needs, but it's certainly what GP deserves.
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Kylia Quilor
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:30 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'd just like to thank KQ for resurrecting this thread, because it was truly what GP needed.

</sarcasm>

I was genuinely curious as to wth was going on.

Also you are very welcome. I may sig this. :p
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Roavin
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Roavin » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm

Meanwhile, in Lazarus...

Image
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Kylia Quilor
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Founded: Jun 19, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:10 pm

Roavin wrote:Meanwhile, in Lazarus...

(Image)

Don't GCRs in general do badly during these things because of the structural issues?
Unfocused populism is just as dangerous, if not more so, to an elected government's wellbeing as creeping authoritarianism.
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Roavin
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Roavin » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:15 pm

THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

I mean, you're right, but still

I thought it was funny
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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:18 pm

Roavin wrote:THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

I mean, you're right, but still

I thought it was funny

Sorry?

Would have been more fitting if Lazarus had most Infected, given their undead theme.
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:31 pm

Kylia Quilor wrote:Sorry?


No need to be sorry, I'm just being silly. :P

but seriously, Laz is dead yo
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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:49 pm

Roavin wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:Sorry?


No need to be sorry, I'm just being silly. :P

but seriously, Laz is dead yo

From everything I saw, Lazarus wasn't all that alive before things got crazy in the leadup to the civil war anyway.
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Escade
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Founded: Apr 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Escade » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:23 pm

Wrong....

We had a CULT Festival with them :P There was a movie screening and other totes cool stuff. It was active and fun, I joined hoping to do some RP\culture stuff.

Anyway, the most interesting thing from this was New Rogernomics discussion about HALLOWEEN PARTIES.. omg should this not be a monthly holiday (not the NS Z day but the real one).

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The North Polish Union
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby The North Polish Union » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:32 pm

Roavin wrote:Meanwhile, in Lazarus...

(Image)

We literally tried to exterminate the living, what did you expect? :P
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Pollaetorian
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pollaetorian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:07 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'd just like to thank KQ for resurrecting this thread, because it was truly what GP needed.

</sarcasm>


It's the only point actually worth talking about from the whole debacle.

Have we ever seen an exile government become a significant region its own right? Nope, never. It would actually be something new to the game if we saw one, but it looks unlikely.
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Gibraltarica
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Ex-Nation

Postby Gibraltarica » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:27 pm

Ikania wrote:
Gibraltarica wrote:Still some spice about getting caught red-handed?

Because you're in a position to talk? Perfectly willing to stand up for democracy until the going got rough, then you ditched like a rat, and now spit two-faced lies about us and pretend to have washed your hands clean. You're the worst kind of traitor.

I am not a traitor. In fact, I renounced treason on the day I left the resistance. Where have I lied? Show me evidence that I have lied about the resistance, about you, or about any individual in the resistance as it pertains to the rebellion against Funkadelia.

Your accusations are baseless.
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The Church of Satan
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Church of Satan » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:17 am

You say that as if Funkadelia and his cronies didn't break every fundamental law of Lazarus to stage his coup and throw the most active members of the community under the bus. >_>
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Chanku: This isn't an election it's an assault on the eyes. | Ikania: Hear! The Gospel of... Satan. Erh...
Yuno: Not gonna yell, but CoS is one of the best delegates ever | Ever-Wandering Souls: In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.

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Scum
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Founded: Mar 12, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Scum » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:20 am

You know, you're giving my man Funk way too much credit here. :roll:

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The Greatest Bestest Nation
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Founded: Mar 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The Greatest Bestest Nation » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:57 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:You say that as if Funkadelia and his cronies didn't break every fundamental law of Lazarus to stage his coup and throw the most active members of the community under the bus. >_>


Why do you think repeating that will achieve anything?

I'm unsure why both sides are still arguing, since they have repeated the same things many times over.

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Ramaeus
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ramaeus » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:01 pm

Kylia Quilor wrote:Don't GCRs in general do badly during these things because of the structural issues?
It's pretty hard to do well in something requiring coordination in NS when you have over 5000 nations.
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