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Consular
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Postby Consular » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:20 pm

"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

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Postby Drasnia » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:30 pm

Consular wrote:"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

Judges can.
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Postby Amerion » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:33 pm

Consular wrote:"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

True. Depends on what standard we would hypothetically use for determining 'impolite'
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Postby Consular » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:34 pm

Drasnia wrote:
Consular wrote:"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

Judges can.

I assume you mean contempt of court, which is, here at least, applied very sparingly.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:36 pm

Consular wrote:"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

Pretty much our take on it. Besides, the existing rules cover the bases sufficiently- flames/threats/etc toward the mods are just as smackable as when directed toward non-mod players already. There's literally no productive purpose in granting mods some additional protection by trying to demand respect, and like everyone's already said, some very good reasons why such a power would be a very bad idea.
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Postby Zaolat » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Consular wrote:"contempt of mod" sounds terrifying. Imagine if the police could imprison you for being impolite to them.

Pretty much our take on it. Besides, the existing rules cover the bases sufficiently- flames/threats/etc toward the mods are just as smackable as when directed toward non-mod players already. There's literally no productive purpose in granting mods some additional protection by trying to demand respect, and like everyone's already said, some very good reasons why such a power would be a very bad idea.

You had to pick the boring answer. :P

I agree, but a part of me would love to bear witness to "contempt of mod". Just like Mall always saying he'd like to see the world burn.
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Postby Blitzkeig » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:42 am

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Todd McCloud wrote:Sidebarring a bit, but it'd be cool if NSWF, Raidercon, the really cool RP con, etc. could be privy to a kind of "NS Calendar" in which organizers, per approval of the mods, could hash out their dates on this calendar so that all interested nations could easily click and find out the dates, times, and perhaps even a dispatch about the event, kind of like what one has when they utilize Outlook. If we had that option, it would, in my opinion, really integrate the site with the offsite events either approved or monitored by an NS mod more than a news post.

Maybe the event organizers can use a Google Calendar to mutually hash out date planning? At least for organizational purposes. Not sure we could badger the techies into building an on-site calendar like that. ^^;;

A google calendar has accessibility issues. It would really not be hard though for someone to create a nation, call it 'ns calendar' or something, make a forum thread and list what's going on in handy categories. I could be stickied in useful places and people could submit things to add via tg; it could even have major events that take place onsight, like the world cup and Olympics, so people remember to sign up.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:07 am

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Reploid Productions wrote:Maybe the event organizers can use a Google Calendar to mutually hash out date planning? At least for organizational purposes. Not sure we could badger the techies into building an on-site calendar like that. ^^;;

A google calendar has accessibility issues. It would really not be hard though for someone to create a nation, call it 'ns calendar' or something, make a forum thread and list what's going on in handy categories. I could be stickied in useful places and people could submit things to add via tg; it could even have major events that take place onsight, like the world cup and Olympics, so people remember to sign up.
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I can explore this, but my hope was to make something that's unique per the site, like how Zetaboards have a specific calendar section and something (subtle) that tells me if an event is going on today. A forum thread would list dates, but wouldn't have the same effect. I'll explore some options today and make a formal thread of it, as I don't want to detract from Cormac's OP.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:16 am

This existed a while back, but for various reasons it didn't work out. Can't remember the name though, but it was built as a off-site gameplay news forum.
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Postby Darkesia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:41 am

Disclaimer: I only read the firs two pages of the discussion, so my comments may be disjointed. I'll decide if I should apologize later...

History taught me that an NSGP off-site would go down in flames, provided you could get anyone to join it.
Westy and I were able to hold Neutral Territory together for about 6 weeks before it degenerated into misery and mayhem. We were absolutely ruthless with the moderation and it took up SO much time.
I just don't think it's feasible to have a long term off-site. As much as we like the idea of self-moderation, I don't think that people who are deeply involved in the drama can also be responsible for that drama's moderation. On the other hand, someone who is not involved at all will not be able to discern "necessary" conflict from "unhealthy," over-emotional conflict. It's tricky.

About the only person, I would trust to run it would be Winnipeg/Eureka because he really doesn't play any longer. He just Administers our off site. I also know he barely has time for TWP and would not be able to fit in any more work on his schedule.

PS. I like the calendar idea, if someone could figure out how to make it work.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:04 am

An NS Calendar is a nice idea, someone should maintain a visible Google Calandar and invite players to submit upcoming dates for events. If it's regularly used it could be a stickied thread, "Upcoming Gameplay Events"? You can set "static" holidays that would repeat every year like "Manumission Day (TNP)" or "Rejectmas (TRR)" or upcoming events, like the NS World Fair.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:36 pm

Darkesia wrote:Disclaimer: I only read the firs two pages of the discussion, so my comments may be disjointed. I'll decide if I should apologize later...

History taught me that an NSGP off-site would go down in flames, provided you could get anyone to join it.
Westy and I were able to hold Neutral Territory together for about 6 weeks before it degenerated into misery and mayhem. We were absolutely ruthless with the moderation and it took up SO much time.
I just don't think it's feasible to have a long term off-site. As much as we like the idea of self-moderation, I don't think that people who are deeply involved in the drama can also be responsible for that drama's moderation. On the other hand, someone who is not involved at all will not be able to discern "necessary" conflict from "unhealthy," over-emotional conflict. It's tricky.

About the only person, I would trust to run it would be Winnipeg/Eureka because he really doesn't play any longer. He just Administers our off site. I also know he barely has time for TWP and would not be able to fit in any more work on his schedule.

PS. I like the calendar idea, if someone could figure out how to make it work.
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