Lazarene Government - The State Of The Union

[Kanglia]

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Last time I checked, 198-123=75.

Edit: Who let the journalist do math

(thanks for catching that Solorni)

[Solorni]

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Last time I checked, 198-123=65.

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Kanglia]

Last time I checked, 198-123=65.

How did you come to that conclusion?

If you'll note

What is also obvious is that the current charts show that the Endo-Gap is about 90.

This is false, as Funk is at 198 endorsements, while Courlany is at 123.
Source: https://www.nationstates.net/page=list_nations/mode=g/region=lazarus/censusid=66

Also, the pre-major update numbers are 195 to 121, which is 74.

Pre:edit to 1st post, my math is def wrong by 10, lol. Fact remains however that 75/74 does not equal 90, nor is it close

[Lands of Anarchy]

How did you come to that conclusion?

If you'll note

. Fact remains however that 75/74 does not equal 90, nor is it close

The fact also remains that 75/74 isn't close to 0, or even 30 for a lib.

[United Socialist Serbia]

How did you come to that conclusion?

If you'll note

What is also obvious is that the current charts show that the Endo-Gap is about 90.

This is false, as Funk is at 198 endorsements, while Courlany is at 123.
Source: https://www.nationstates.net/page=list_nations/mode=g/region=lazarus/censusid=66

Also, the pre-major update numbers are 195 to 121, which is 74.

Pre:edit to 1st post, my math is def wrong by 10, lol. Fact remains however that 75/74 does not equal 90, nor is it close

My bad, I was comparing Loftegen and Funkadelia. That gap is farther apart. You are right about Courlany and Funkadelia.

[Kanglia]

If you'll note

The fact also remains that 75/74 isn't close to 0, or even 30 for a lib.

& I am not disputing that fact either.

Also U.S. Serbia, no worries mate!

[Ikania]

Have you taken the region yet?


No?

"President Lincoln, we've just won a great victory at Gettysburg!"
"But have we taken Richmond yet? No? Best surrender, then."

[Kylia Quilor]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

[Ikania]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

The comparative size of victories is not at all the point here.

[Solorni]

"President Lincoln, we've just won a great victory at Gettysburg!"
"But have we taken Richmond yet? No? Best surrender, then."

I always knew you were fighting against the proponents of slavery President Lincoln

This is like the successful surprise attack through the Ardenne forest against the Allies in WW2 that was a setback for the allies, but ultimately wasn't enough to cause their defeat... which is what I'd say if I also wanted to use ridiculous examples

[Kylia Quilor]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

The comparative size of victories is not at all the point here.

This isn't even about comparative size. Its about actually accomplishing something. In this war, there is really only one thing to accomplish - unseating Funk. You can't crow about anything short of that.

[Syberis]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

The comparative size of victories is not at all the point here.

The definition of the word "Victory" is.

I did the math real quick, and... doesn't an attrition run have to result in a long-term loss of influence? If my math is right, Funkadelia's either already recovered, or will have reached his old total by minor tomorrow.

[Killer Kitty]

I did the math real quick, and... doesn't an attrition run have to result in a long-term loss of influence? If my math is right, Funkadelia's either already recovered, or will have reached his old total by minor tomorrow.

Correct.

This "great victory" for the Revolt cost Funk slightly less than a day's worth of influence.

If that's a major cause for celebration, then their side doesn't have a whole lot to celebrate these days.

[Pentaga Giudici]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

Can you explain to me why you think we are backed by Unibot, when some of us have behind closed doors and in my case almost openly, said things about said user that would be considered flaming or flame-baiting?

You told us you weren't taking sides, but it's becoming a bit clear that you weren't being entirely honest with us.

[Solorni]

In fairness, the Resistance has been the opposite of transparent and accountable when it comes to who they are working with and who is helping them. They refuse to let people know who certain individuals are within their organization. It is well known that Unibot had been collaborating on articles written for the resistance and that Unibot had been sharing a nation list with Roavin when it came to recruiting people for the resistance. So you can see how the lack of transparency can be seen by outsiders as the Resistance having something to hide and that these individuals they are hiding are unsavoury characters.

How about some accountability, some transparency and some answers from the resistance?

[An Amphibious Equation]

At Gettysburg, something actually *happened*, namely an entire Confederate Army was shattered and put to flight. At Viksburg, territory was taken.

You didn't really accomplish something like that here.

Don't attrition runs need to happen nonstop to actually... you know, attrit?

Can you explain to me why you think we are backed by Unibot, when some of us have behind closed doors and in my case almost openly, said things about said user that would be considered flaming or flame-baiting?

You told us you weren't taking sides, but it's becoming a bit clear that you weren't being entirely honest with us.

I'm not Kylia, but here's an explanation from Cormac: viewtopic.php?p=32482121#p32482121

Also, not seeing anywhere that Kylia has taken as side.

[Kylia Quilor]

Can you explain to me why you think we are backed by Unibot, when some of us have behind closed doors and in my case almost openly, said things about said user that would be considered flaming or flame-baiting?

You told us you weren't taking sides, but it's becoming a bit clear that you weren't being entirely honest with us.

I'm not Kylia, but here's an explanation from Cormac: viewtopic.php?p=32482121#p32482121

Also, not seeing anywhere that Kylia has taken as side.

I have little fondness for Evil Wolf and Funk - mostly I'm just allergic to BS. In part because they post less here in GP, the Funk Side has posted less BS. Also, they have a tighter control over their message - they may say things that aren't true, but they don't cross the line into 'BS'

Also, if its all behind closed doors or only 'almost' openly, how on earth am I supposed to know you've said them, matey?

[Glen-Rhodes]

Don't bother trying to dispel their Unibot conspiracies. They know they aren't true. They're just playing politics at this point, using the offenses they pretend to care about as a backdrop for their conspiracies.

Every time Unibot is mentioned, it should be met with a question for Funkadelia and Wolf on why they're protecting and defending Lamb.

[Kylia Quilor]

Don't bother trying to dispel their Unibot conspiracies. They know they aren't true. They're just playing politics at this point, using the offenses they pretend to care about as a backdrop for their conspiracies.

Every time Unibot is mentioned, it should be met with a question for Funkadelia and Wolf on why they're protecting and defending Lamb.

When did you become a mind reader?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Can you explain to me why you think we are backed by Unibot, when some of us have behind closed doors and in my case almost openly, said things about said user that would be considered flaming or flame-baiting?

You told us you weren't taking sides, but it's becoming a bit clear that you weren't being entirely honest with us.

I'm not Kylia, but here's an explanation from Cormac: viewtopic.php?p=32482121#p32482121

Also, not seeing anywhere that Kylia has taken as side.

And, since it was asked about, his summary at least partially originates from this - viewtopic.php?p=32389464#p32389464

[Cormactopia Prime]

Don't bother trying to dispel their Unibot conspiracies. They know they aren't true.

It's not a false conspiracy theory when there is actual evidence of him recruiting for "liberation" of Lazarus, so no, we don't know it isn't true.

[Solorni]

Don't bother trying to dispel their Unibot conspiracies. They know they aren't true.

It's not a false conspiracy theory when there is actual evidence of him recruiting for "liberation" of Lazarus, so no, we don't know it isn't true.

Along with him repeatedly posting in favour of the resistance...

[Kylia Quilor]

Well the resistance can't really stop him from doing that, technically.

[The Church of Satan]

I'm more interested in tying the resistance to Unibot's record of miserable failures in manipulating the GCRs to his ends.

Right? Leave that to all the other people manipulating the GCRs. It's only okay when they do it!

[Solorni]

Roavin has said that the individuals hiding their involvement in the resistance aren't nefarious. So why can't we just find out who they are for transparency's sake? Or is transparency not a factor in your group?

(i.e. CO and the Rahl conspiracy)

The Rahl's are ridiculously awesome, nor sure how that is a bad rumour...