Lazarene Government - The State Of The Union

[Cormactopia Prime]

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So then you have no actual interest in negotiation or compromise, nor any interest in a peaceful resolution that doesn't involve the other side's surrender.

That's what I thought, but I needed to be sure since Escade asked me to attempt to broker a peace deal. I see I was correct in assuming that was impossible.

[Ikania]

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So then you have no actual interest in negotiation or compromise, nor any interest in a peaceful resolution that doesn't involve the other side's surrender.

That's what I thought, but I needed to be sure since Escade asked me to attempt to broker a peace deal. I see I was correct in assuming that was impossible.

I have an interest in any agreement that will see the safe return of we persecuted citizens to Lazarus, and our voting rights respected and restored. I have my preferences as to the particulars to such a deal, but I'm not flat out demanding anything except our right to return.

[Pentaga Giudici]

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So then you have no actual interest in negotiation or compromise, nor any interest in a peaceful resolution that doesn't involve the other side's surrender.

That's what I thought, but I needed to be sure since Escade asked me to attempt to broker a peace deal. I see I was correct in assuming that was impossible.

The accused have brought in zero outsiders that I know of, despite being charged as having doing so, after they were punished.

The other side, according to my latest count has around 23 outsiders brought in to freeboot the region.

[Cormactopia Prime]

The accused have brought in zero outsiders that I know of, despite being charged as having doing so, after they were punished.

The other side, according to my latest count has around 23 outsiders brought in to freeboot the region.

I think you're missing how little that matters, even if you're right. You can be right and still lose. You aren't going to win this.

[Canton Empire]

The accused have brought in zero outsiders that I know of, despite being charged as having doing so, after they were punished.

The other side, according to my latest count has around 23 outsiders brought in to freeboot the region.

I think you're missing how little that matters, even if you're right. You can be right and still lose. You aren't going to win this.

So negative.

[Pentaga Giudici]

The accused have brought in zero outsiders that I know of, despite being charged as having doing so, after they were punished.

The other side, according to my latest count has around 23 outsiders brought in to freeboot the region.

I think you're missing how little that matters, even if you're right. You can be right and still lose. You aren't going to win this.

Translation: "I don't care if the good guys win, I care if MY guys win, because I am a partisan (insert offensive word here). I am so (See words before) that I am going to try and demoralize you as well."

[Escade]

Let's chill, everyone. I'm not sure why you're attacking Cormac for discussing negotiations. I think that's far more than what many have done. Everyone's a partisan in this - one way or the other.

I mean so many of watch GoT here - do we learn nothing? Pride goes before the fall, etc.

Also, Ikania this seems like a good place to work from:

I have an interest in any agreement that will see the safe return of we persecuted citizens to Lazarus, and our voting rights respected and restored. I have my preferences as to the particulars to such a deal, but I'm not flat out demanding anything except our right to return.

[Lazarene Government]

It has come to the attention of the Lazarene government that the Invaders are currently stationed in Lazarus, piling in support of Funkadelia. Although it is no secret that the two of our sides harbor no love for each other, to put it lightly, we call upon the current forces occupying the WA Delegacy to put aside our mutual differences and unite on an issue that transcends the mere boundaries of NationStates; a concern for human dignity and an opposition to those who would violate it.

We specifically call upon the forces occupying the WA Delegacy to reject the support that they have received from forces from the Invaders; namely, the endorsements of Southwest Lemoutery and Invader Unit 1. The conduct of the leadership of the Invaders is heinous, and we call upon Funkadelia, Lamb and Evil Wolf to oppose such conduct and by extension the Invaders. This statement is rooted in a simple respect for human dignity and honor transcending and of infinitely more importance than the mere political concerns of Gameplay. The true Lazarene government has consistently stood in support of such basic values even at personal expense by firmly rejecting the support of the USSD, and we call upon our opponents to state their support for these values as well by rejecting the support of the Invaders and denouncing their downright reprehensible conduct.

[The North Polish Union]

I'm sure EW would jump at the chance to condemn any raider group

[The Church of Satan]

Even Kazmr took two weeks to oust the Gang of Five. Don't be so quick to write us off Cormac. We're in this for the long haul.

[Pentaga Giudici]

This so far is one of those conflicts where every day shows more progress and more reasons to be motivated to win. Every day there is more morale, more culture, more comradery, and so on.

I think we can do two weeks easy, if that's what it takes.

[Reventus Koth]

Man, if wars could be fought with positive thinking and Discord chatting, conflict in this game would be even more boring than it already is!

Until this "resistance" stops focusing on winning the propaganda war and starts trying to actually close the endo gap in any meaningful way, they're dead in the water. Lenlyvit, as misguided as he was, at least was trying to think militarily about it. And no, throwing a party when your unendorsement campaigns barely put a dent in the 3 digit endo gap between you and your opponent isn't going to accomplish anything.

[RiderSyl]

If Funk's Monarchy associates with The Invaders, then I doubt it's going to last very long. Funk's Monarchy, that is.

[Ikania]

Man, if wars could be fought with positive thinking and Discord chatting, conflict in this game would be even more boring than it already is!

Until this "resistance" stops focusing on winning the propaganda war and starts trying to actually close the endo gap in any meaningful way, they're dead in the water. Lenlyvit, as misguided as he was, at least was trying to think militarily about it. And no, throwing a party when your unendorsement campaigns barely put a dent in the 3 digit endo gap between you and your opponent isn't going to accomplish anything.

Progress is progress, steady at that even if slow. It's called waging two fronts.

[Consular]

Even Kazmr took two weeks to oust the Gang of Five. Don't be so quick to write us off Cormac. We're in this for the long haul.

Yeah but Kazmr handled himself in an infinitely smarter way than you guys have so far.

[Reventus Koth]

Man, if wars could be fought with positive thinking and Discord chatting, conflict in this game would be even more boring than it already is!

Until this "resistance" stops focusing on winning the propaganda war and starts trying to actually close the endo gap in any meaningful way, they're dead in the water. Lenlyvit, as misguided as he was, at least was trying to think militarily about it. And no, throwing a party when your unendorsement campaigns barely put a dent in the 3 digit endo gap between you and your opponent isn't going to accomplish anything.

Progress is progress, steady at that even if slow. It's called waging two fronts.

Every day you spend without victory brings your movement closer to collapse. You are not making progress, you are scratching the surface and patting yourselves on the back for it. The minimal endorsement loss Funk has experienced is vastly outweighed by your side's loss of morale, which will slowly but surely kill your movement far quicker than Funk's missing endorsements will kill his. Influence is not on your side.

[The Church of Satan]

I assure you morale is not an issue.

[McMannia Times Six]

Man, if wars could be fought with positive thinking and Discord chatting, conflict in this game would be even more boring than it already is!

Until this "resistance" stops focusing on winning the propaganda war and starts trying to actually close the endo gap in any meaningful way, they're dead in the water. Lenlyvit, as misguided as he was, at least was trying to think militarily about it. And no, throwing a party when your unendorsement campaigns barely put a dent in the 3 digit endo gap between you and your opponent isn't going to accomplish anything.

Progress is progress, steady at that even if slow. It's called waging two fronts.

Its also called holding peoples attention, and this isnt going to forever. People will find something else to be worked up about, or IRL things will take their attention away, or they'll give up because a long term fight wasnt what they signed up for and they have other obligations. Every day that passes without victory makes it less likely the "resistance" will ever be able to see that victory happen.

[Pentaga Giudici]

Every day this goes on, is another day Funk's movement fails to grow.

Let us remember that he is indeed propped up by people who don't do a lot on the site and 24 freebooters. The instant any of those freebooters want to raid anywhere else, or their officers get bored, they will pull out.

At which point, slowly but surely Funk will have a boring, ashy region of nothingness.

Either his endorsers are going to let their nations die again, or they will leave, or they will see that Funk is a traitor.

[Altheriol]

Every day this goes on, is another day Funk's movement fails to grow.

Let us remember that he is indeed propped up by people who don't do a lot on the site and 24 freebooters. The instant any of those freebooters want to raid anywhere else, or their officers get bored, they will pull out.

At which point, slowly but surely Funk will have a boring, ashy region of nothingness.

Either his endorsers are going to let their nations die again, or they will leave, or they will see that Funk is a traitor.

But is his movement failing to grow at a faster rate than yours is?

[Drop Your Pants]

Its also called holding peoples attention, and this isnt going to forever. People will find something else to be worked up about, or IRL things will take their attention away, or they'll give up because a long term fight wasnt what they signed up for and they have other obligations. Every day that passes without victory makes it less likely the "resistance" will ever be able to see that victory happen.

Since you're here, does h y d r a work with TI now? I can see some of your troops in there too

[Roavin]

But is his movement failing to grow at a faster rate than yours is?

Funkadelia has had a significant net loss in endorsements, despite being continuously piled upon by outside forces. I'd say the direction is clear.

[Pentaga Giudici]

Every day this goes on, is another day Funk's movement fails to grow.

Let us remember that he is indeed propped up by people who don't do a lot on the site and 24 freebooters. The instant any of those freebooters want to raid anywhere else, or their officers get bored, they will pull out.

At which point, slowly but surely Funk will have a boring, ashy region of nothingness.

Either his endorsers are going to let their nations die again, or they will leave, or they will see that Funk is a traitor.

But is his movement failing to grow at a faster rate than yours is?

Our native support is growing at a comfortable rate, so I can definitely see things going in our favor.

Funk is trying so hard and making no more progress, so this bubble is going to bust.

[Cormactopia Prime]

But is his movement failing to grow at a faster rate than yours is?

Funkadelia has had a significant net loss in endorsements, despite being continuously piled upon by outside forces. I'd say the direction is clear.

Does it matter though? You and I both know it doesn't, not with the tactics the "resistance" is currently using, or failing to use as the case may be.

[Altheriol]

Funkadelia has had a significant net loss in endorsements, despite being continuously piled upon by outside forces. I'd say the direction is clear.

Does it matter though? You and I both know it doesn't, not with the tactics the "resistance" is currently using, or failing to use as the case may be.

What matters is whether the Government and its allies can maintain interest in restoring their position for longer than Funkadelia's regime and their allies can maintain interest in holding theirs. Naturally, you would be inclined to believe the latter are advantaged in such a battle of endurance. I've insufficient evidence to decide for myself, but I'd say that we'll know for certain by the end of the week, even if the advantage at this stage still lies with Funkadelia. After all, he's got the more endorsements right now.