Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:49 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:But Glen, when do these rules apply to you?
Exactly the point.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
Cormactopia Prime wrote:But Glen, when do these rules apply to you?
Land Without Shrimp wrote:But I do know that a good friend of mine suffered from certain people's behaviour and so yes, I supported Tsu's action. Am I sad it came to this? Absolutely? Am I saying that everyone on the other side is perfect? Absolutely not. But in terms of action Tsu took, in my opinion as an average TSPer, it was necessary. Something had to be done.
Cormactopia Prime wrote:But Glen, when do these rules apply to you? When I was there, it was you and your behavior people were complaining about. When I served as Chair and cracked down on your behavior, it was because Farengeto and Ryccia, among others, were encouraging me to do something about your in-character toxicity in the Assembly. And yet we know what happened there -- the warnings I issued against you were ignored by Tsunamy and never applied, and I was run out of TSP for daring to enforce any rules of conduct against you. And now here we are, with you claiming that TSP can and should enforce these rules. Fine and dandy, but when are they ever going to apply to you? This whole thing is a farce. Escade and Tim were banned because you don't like them.
Unibot III wrote:What Escade and Tim were banned for is far more exhaustive than merely insults here or there: those are responded to with a graduated moderation system. What TSPers were party to was months of a deeply personal factionalism - sustained through denigration, intimidation, emotional manipulation, and kompromat - that has no real equal in TSP history. They were responsible for the premature departures of several TSPers from NS.
Chartresia wrote:Really?
Aren't you supposed to be banned from the South Pacific? Because you seem to have a very deep knowledge of what's been happening in TSP over a matter of months.
Unibot III wrote:Aren't you supposed to be banned from the South Pacific? Because you seem to have a very deep knowledge of what's been happening in TSP over a matter of months.
I'm not supposed to be, I am. It's a ban that I've honoured completely. I maintain no hidden account in TSP. Nor do I harbor any animus with the people who promulgated my ban.
Unibot III wrote:What Escade and Tim were banned for is far more exhaustive than merely insults here or there: those are responded to with a graduated moderation system. What TSPers were party to was months of a deeply personal factionalism - sustained through denigration, intimidation, emotional manipulation, and kompromat - that has no real equal in TSP history. They were responsible for the premature departures of several TSPers from NS.
Unibot III wrote:Most of my chats with TSPers involve the Canadian Constitution or speculating about the Democratic primaries. I’m increasingly disillusioned at what’s become of NS.
Unibot III wrote:What transpired was a sustained personal drama that's hard to articulate in moderation terms without using unclear words like "toxicity" and "harassment" which mean something different to everyone.
The Church of Satan wrote:Unibot III wrote:What transpired was a sustained personal drama that's hard to articulate in moderation terms without using unclear words like "toxicity" and "harassment" which mean something different to everyone.
Actually the NationStates community has an agreed upon definition for harassment.
RiderSyl wrote:Unibot III wrote:What Escade and Tim were banned for is far more exhaustive than merely insults here or there: those are responded to with a graduated moderation system. What TSPers were party to was months of a deeply personal factionalism - sustained through denigration, intimidation, emotional manipulation, and kompromat - that has no real equal in TSP history. They were responsible for the premature departures of several TSPers from NS.Unibot III wrote:Most of my chats with TSPers involve the Canadian Constitution or speculating about the Democratic primaries. I’m increasingly disillusioned at what’s become of NS.
Either you're speaking out of your ass in the first quote, or you're lying in the second one.
The Church of Satan wrote:Unibot III wrote:What transpired was a sustained personal drama that's hard to articulate in moderation terms without using unclear words like "toxicity" and "harassment" which mean something different to everyone.
Actually the NationStates community has an agreed upon definition for harassment.
Unibot III wrote:I'm not supposed to be, I am. It's a ban that I've honoured completely. I maintain no hidden account in TSP. Nor do I harbor any animus with the people who promulgated my ban.
The Church of Satan wrote:Unibot III wrote:What transpired was a sustained personal drama that's hard to articulate in moderation terms without using unclear words like "toxicity" and "harassment" which mean something different to everyone.
Actually the NationStates community has an agreed upon definition for harassment.
Aramanchovia wrote:Unibot III wrote:I'm not supposed to be, I am. It's a ban that I've honoured completely. I maintain no hidden account in TSP. Nor do I harbor any animus with the people who promulgated my ban.
Based on the name, I would have thought South Unibot was your puppet nation, but guess not. I guess that one is not really hidden either though
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:Aramanchovia wrote:Based on the name, I would have thought South Unibot was your puppet nation, but guess not. I guess that one is not really hidden either though
So much for being "banned" in all regions
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Some part of Gameplay has an idiosyncratic, poorly-defined, and relatively restrictive definition of harassment, that is in diametric opposition (according to you) to what the NationStates community has understood it to be for a very long time. A lot of work has gone into getting administrators to take the complaints of players being sexually harassed seriously, and that shouldn't come at any cost, let alone at the cost of other non-sexual harassment being minimized as non-actionable and outside of the jurisdiction of "proper" community management.
The Church of Satan wrote:Well Glen then what is harassment? Even you can't seem to come to a decision.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Definition of harass
harassed; harassing; harasses
transitive verb
b (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct
The Church of Satan wrote:North Prarie wrote:No, its's mostly that they just wanted to attack TSP :/
Even though despite the fact that my region has been TSP's closest and most loyal ally for several years I am still appalled by their administrators blatant abuse of power? You might want to rethink that statement.