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Aumeltopia
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Took you a while, but better late then never. Glad to see this.
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Tubbius the Rotund and Benevolent of Treadwellia is pleased at this statement of approval of Lazarus! He gives an emphatic, "Mmph MMPH," at the news.

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Well done.
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Postby Malphe » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:01 am

I do like the graphics thingy. Very professional looking.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:01 pm

Congratulations to Glen-Rhodes on winning another term as Minister of Foreign Affairs the only way he knows how.

Commiserations to the South Pacific upon losing yet another longtime, active contributor to your government because of your petty power politics.

Most of all, congratulations to WALL on TSP soon becoming the strongest recruitment tool WALL has ever had.
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:06 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to Glen-Rhodes on winning another term as Minister of Foreign Affairs the only way he knows how.

Commiserations to the South Pacific upon losing yet another longtime, active contributor to your government because of your petty power politics.

Most of all, congratulations to WALL on TSP soon becoming the strongest recruitment tool WALL has ever had.


wut?

First, voting hasn't even started and there's another candidate.

Second, if it was petty power politics, he wouldn't end it with "I still love y'all!", would he?

Third, wat?
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:20 pm

Roavin wrote:First, voting hasn't even started and there's another candidate.

Uh-huh.

Roavin wrote:Second, if it was petty power politics, he wouldn't end it with "I still love y'all!", would he?

Some people are classy like that. All you have to do is look at the campaign threads to see that petty power politics were involved.

Roavin wrote:Third, wat?

If Glen-Rhodes is elected and tries to build a new WA bloc to counter WALL, which is basically the centerpiece of his campaign, that's just going to make more regions interested in joining WALL. A WA bloc built by Glen-Rhodes is the best recruitment tool WALL could ever hope to have.

It will also be interesting to see what effect Glen-Rhodes will have on TNP-TSP relations, after he said he wants to "chip at their influence." It looks like he has targeted the TNP-TSP alliance for elimination as his agenda this time, having destroyed TSP's alliances with other independent regions in previous terms.

But you would know something about that as well, having described TSP in your campaign as "opposed to the Independence Manifesto and the regions ensnared by its ideology." TNP is the most prominent signatory of the Independent Manifesto. So I guess Glen-Rhodes was really only echoing the hostility toward TNP first articulated by TSP's likely next Prime Minister. Weird to see TSP's oldest extant alliance under siege like this for no apparent reason.
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Glen-Rhodes
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:54 pm

TNP is one of our oldest and most important alliances.

If you actually read what I write, you'll notice that my contention is with Balder and Europeia, not TNP. I'd gladly support the next MoFA starting talks about joining WALL, but the existence of two regions that have called TSP an enemy is a significant hurdle to that. The point is that Balder and Europeia being in WALL do realistically limit its membership, and regions that aren't on their good sides have to look elsewhere to coordinate on World Assembly affairs.

That's just a realistic assessment of the strategic field. TSP and TNP have always had an honest relationship with each other, which is why we've been able to maintain the alliance despite sometimes diverging on Gameplay issues.

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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:09 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:TNP is one of our oldest and most important alliances.

If you actually read what I write, you'll notice that my contention is with Balder and Europeia, not TNP. I'd gladly support the next MoFA starting talks about joining WALL, but the existence of two regions that have called TSP an enemy is a significant hurdle to that. The point is that Balder and Europeia being in WALL do realistically limit its membership, and regions that aren't on their good sides have to look elsewhere to coordinate on World Assembly affairs.

That's just a realistic assessment of the strategic field. TSP and TNP have always had an honest relationship with each other, which is why we've been able to maintain the alliance despite sometimes diverging on Gameplay issues.

What I notice is that you single out Balder and Europeia, because singling them out is what makes this politically palatable for people in TSP, but you talk about chipping at WALL's influence -- which includes TNP's. You can't get around that. You can't sweep it under the rug.

It would be one thing if you were just talking about forming a WA bloc to help promote TSP's interests in the WA, whatever those even are -- do you even know? I don't really. But in any event, that isn't what you're talking about. This bloc and the way you've framed it are completely reactive.

You're not building a bloc to pursue this, that, or another thing as a positive goal, you're building a bloc to oppose WALL, to chip away at WALL's influence, to treat WALL like an enemy that should be defeated. That's incredibly clear in your campaign. So if you're out to oppose WALL, don't be shy about what that means. It means you're out to oppose TNP. You can't oppose WALL and then say "but not some of its regions." WALL is its regions. If WALL is opposed, TNP is opposed. If WALL's influence is reduced, TNP's influence is reduced. If WALL is treated like TSP's enemy, TNP is treated like TSP's enemy. Because you can't act like you're somehow separating WALL from the regions that comprise it. It isn't possible to separate WALL from any of its member regions, but especially not the region that is literally host to WALL's headquarters. TNP is more invested in WALL than any other region. Opposing WALL is opposing TNP.

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Postby Roavin » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:40 pm

I've said quite often that TNP is a fantastic ally (and if it wasn't literally 2:30am, I'd cite myself here — a cursory forum search should do the trick for anybody curious enough to factcheck me). I'm not sure how or why anybody could believe that I wish to end an alliance whose other partner I consider fantastic.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:53 pm

Roavin wrote:I've said quite often that TNP is a fantastic ally (and if it wasn't literally 2:30am, I'd cite myself here — a cursory forum search should do the trick for anybody curious enough to factcheck me). I'm not sure how or why anybody could believe that I wish to end an alliance whose other partner I consider fantastic.

You're the one who said TSP opposes "the Independence Manifesto and the regions ensnared by its ideology." I guess we're supposed to believe TNP also isn't included in that, despite TNP being among the first signatories of that document and by far the most prominent? They're the largest region in the world and the manifesto is pinned to their WFE. Give me a break.

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:40 pm

Roavin wrote:Second, if it was petty power politics, he wouldn't end it with "I still love y'all!", would he?


It's Somy, for fuck's sake. Of course he would. Dude is all class, and one of the few TSPers I find favorable. I'm actually glad he resigned from the political arena in TSP. Y'all don't deserve him.
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Armaros
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Postby Armaros » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:42 pm

What's also intereating is to see Glen continually talking about new allies and simultaneously attacks and throws away any potential relations with TWP. Not only that, but immediatley after that he starts preaching how horrible and hostile Lazarus is, naming a personal vendetta against Imki, Wolf being Gaurdian (would somehow make us evil?) And "a strong anti-TSP sentiment", which is peculiar because a bunch of Lazarenes are TSPers (not to mention, it would be awesome if someone could tell me where "[Lazarenes] advocate for our [TSP's] overthrow")

So ehh.. yeah. I'm still hoping TSP realises what an incredibly great wrecking ball Glen is to interregional relations and decides to elect the other guy.
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Roavin wrote:I've said quite often that TNP is a fantastic ally (and if it wasn't literally 2:30am, I'd cite myself here — a cursory forum search should do the trick for anybody curious enough to factcheck me). I'm not sure how or why anybody could believe that I wish to end an alliance whose other partner I consider fantastic.

You're the one who said TSP opposes "the Independence Manifesto and the regions ensnared by its ideology." I guess we're supposed to believe TNP also isn't included in that, despite TNP being among the first signatories of that document and by far the most prominent? They're the largest region in the world and the manifesto is pinned to their WFE. Give me a break.


No, I don't count TNP in that. I don't count, say, TWP either, even though they are signatories as well. I suppose it's fair criticism to say that I shouldn't attach my point of rhetoric to the Manifesto itself but rather to the specific regions I'm referring to, or at least more specific terms like "Ondersphere" or "Imperialists" or such. Either way, though, my pro-TNP, anti-Balder/LKE/etc. stance is well known and well documented, so trying so hard to extract some different and contrary meaning from a single suboptimally argued campaign point does not hold up to scrutiny.
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Anarchic Turkish States
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Postby Anarchic Turkish States » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:45 am

ewwwwwwwwwwww glen


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Bobberino
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Postby Bobberino » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:16 am

To be fair, he did say it in his campaign, Cormac. Which you happen to have linked. In this thread. Check it.
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Postby Killer Kitty » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:47 am

Armaros wrote:Not only that, but immediatley after that he starts preaching how horrible and hostile Lazarus is, naming a personal vendetta against Imki, Wolf being Gaurdian (would somehow make us evil?) And "a strong anti-TSP sentiment", which is peculiar because a bunch of Lazarenes are TSPers (not to mention, it would be awesome if someone could tell me where "[Lazarenes] advocate for our [TSP's] overthrow")


...Coup TSP! :p

In fairness, I am, according to TSP's own laws, illegally banned from the region, so I feel as if I have a slight right so say such things.

But me being openly anti-TSP doesnt mean Lazarus is, unless, of course, Glen being openly anti-Laz makes TSP anti-Lazarus.

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Postby North Prarie » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:24 am

Armaros wrote:
So ehh.. yeah. I'm still hoping TSP realises what an incredibly great wrecking ball Glen is to interregional relations and decides to elect the other guy.

Anarchic Turkish States wrote:ewwwwwwwwwwww glen


vote praire

Guess I'm the 'other guy...'
Anyway, I thanks NSGP for their current support even if y'all will turn your backs on me if i'm elected :p
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Roavin wrote:Second, if it was petty power politics, he wouldn't end it with "I still love y'all!", would he?


It's Somy, for fuck's sake. Of course he would. Dude is all class, and one of the few TSPers I find favorable. I'm actually glad he resigned from the political arena in TSP. Y'all don't deserve him.

Yeah, we don't deserve Somy. Even though he was going to be my opponent, i'm genuinely really upset that he chose to withdraw. He's one of my NS BFFs and has been a great mentor for the entirety of my NS career :hug:
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:34 am

Roavin wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:You're the one who said TSP opposes "the Independence Manifesto and the regions ensnared by its ideology." I guess we're supposed to believe TNP also isn't included in that, despite TNP being among the first signatories of that document and by far the most prominent? They're the largest region in the world and the manifesto is pinned to their WFE. Give me a break.


No, I don't count TNP in that. I don't count, say, TWP either, even though they are signatories as well. I suppose it's fair criticism to say that I shouldn't attach my point of rhetoric to the Manifesto itself but rather to the specific regions I'm referring to, or at least more specific terms like "Ondersphere" or "Imperialists" or such. Either way, though, my pro-TNP, anti-Balder/LKE/etc. stance is well known and well documented, so trying so hard to extract some different and contrary meaning from a single suboptimally argued campaign point does not hold up to scrutiny.

I don't think you can get miffed about someone interpreting your words according to what they appear to say. If you're now saying you misspoke, and just meant to say the specific regions you've cited (Balder, The LKE, et al.), then hopefully you've learned a valuable lesson about saying exactly what you mean instead of generalizing. But don't blame me for interpreting a generalization for exactly what it seemed to be. If you don't want people to think your generalization includes all regions that signed the Independent Manifesto, don't say things like "the Independence Manifesto and the regions ensnared by its ideology." Interpreting that to mean all the regions that signed it is the most logical interpretation, and no one should be expected to "know better." You should be expected to more clearly communicate what you actually meant. I presume a Prime Minister ought to be good at communicating his message, no?
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:36 am

Image


Aim & Objectives

The South Pacific (TSP) seeks a unified design language across its various government bodies. This includes a standard font and colour palette which can be used in posts by the Cabinet, Assembly, High Court, etcetera.

Application & Target Audience

These logos will be applied to all official posts and correspondences issued by their respective authorities. The logos will largely appeal to a domestic audience with regular updates from government bodies. They shall also be used abroad in foreign embassies and in the NationStates Gameplay forum (NSGP).

Design Brief

There are no limits to the number of designs an individual can submit. They may choose to enter one submission or, if they so desire, twenty-eight.

Submissions should:
  • have dimensions of no less than 100 pixels in height and no more than 800 pixels in width;
  • have a transparent background;
  • utilise a readable font which should be free to use (please also provide the name of the font(s) when submitting the entry); and
  • be submitted in both raster and SVG form.
In particular, submissions should include one logo each for the following government bodies:
  • The Cabinet
    • Ministry of Regional Affairs
    • Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    • Ministry of Military Affairs
  • Delegate
  • Local Council
  • Legislator Committee
  • Chair of the Assembly
  • High Court
  • Council on Regional Security
Entrants are advised to use the following colour codes (provided in the following spoiler) as a guideline for their designs.

Image


Please consult the Charter (constitution of TSP) for information as to the responsibilities of these bodies. Alternatively, entrants may message a government official who will be more than happy to detail their various functions.

Please note that all submissions should exclude any material, images, iconography, or symbols that are copyright protected. Similarly, submissions should only use fonts which are free to use.

Submission

Please telegram the Minister of Regional Affairs Beepee with the submission. This can come in the form of a link to an Imgur album, a link to a Google Docs, or a NationStates dispatch with the submission as the content of that dispatch. There is no set way to do this. Entrants may choose to include a detailed presentation explaining their design choices or they may simply feature the designs themselves. It is ultimately up to the entrant.

The submissions will be collected at the end of the submission period and a forum poll will be conducted to determine the winning entry.

Eligibility

This competition is open to entrants of any region.

Timeline

Submission period: 4-14 March 2019
Voting period: 15-20 March 2019

Prize

The winning entrant shall receive an official commendation by TSP's Ministry of Regional Affairs. Should the entrant have an account on TSP's regional forum and/or Discord server, they shall be placed in a special mask for a period of one year as a display of the region's gratitude. In addition, when a currency system is implemented on TSP's regional forum, the entrant will receive a significant payment.

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Postby Beepee » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:53 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:


Aim & Objectives

The South Pacific (TSP) seeks a unified design language across its various government bodies. This includes a standard font and colour palette which can be used in posts by the Cabinet, Assembly, High Court, etcetera.

Application & Target Audience

These logos will be applied to all official posts and correspondences issued by their respective authorities. The logos will largely appeal to a domestic audience with regular updates from government bodies. They shall also be used abroad in foreign embassies and in the NationStates Gameplay forum (NSGP).

Design Brief

There are no limits to the number of designs an individual can submit. They may choose to enter one submission or, if they so desire, twenty-eight.

Submissions should:
  • have dimensions of no less than 100 pixels in height and no more than 800 pixels in width;
  • have a transparent background;
  • utilise a readable font which should be free to use (please also provide the name of the font(s) when submitting the entry); and
  • be submitted in both raster and SVG form.
In particular, submissions should include one logo each for the following government bodies:
  • The Cabinet
    • Ministry of Regional Affairs
    • Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    • Ministry of Military Affairs
  • Delegate
  • Local Council
  • Legislator Committee
  • Chair of the Assembly
  • High Court
  • Council on Regional Security
Entrants are advised to use the following colour codes (provided in the following spoiler) as a guideline for their designs.



Please consult the Charter (constitution of TSP) for information as to the responsibilities of these bodies. Alternatively, entrants may message a government official who will be more than happy to detail their various functions.

Please note that all submissions should exclude any material, images, iconography, or symbols that are copyright protected. Similarly, submissions should only use fonts which are free to use.

Submission

Please telegram the Minister of Regional Affairs Beepee with the submission. This can come in the form of a link to an Imgur album, a link to a Google Docs, or a NationStates dispatch with the submission as the content of that dispatch. There is no set way to do this. Entrants may choose to include a detailed presentation explaining their design choices or they may simply feature the designs themselves. It is ultimately up to the entrant.

The submissions will be collected at the end of the submission period and a forum poll will be conducted to determine the winning entry.

Eligibility

This competition is open to entrants of any region.

Timeline

Submission period: until 21 March 2019
Voting period: 22-27 March 2019

Prize


The winning entrant shall receive an official commendation by TSP's Ministry of Regional Affairs. Should the entrant have an account on TSP's regional forum and/or Discord server, they shall be placed in a special mask for a period of one year as a display of the region's gratitude. In addition, when a currency system is implemented on TSP's regional forum, the entrant will receive a significant payment.


Evening all.... we've extended the deadline to the 21st March to allow more time to refine your designs.

I look forward to receiving your telegrams.

Love, Beepee

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Beepee
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Postby Beepee » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:58 pm

Hello everyone

It's the last few days of the South Pacific Design competition.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1178994

It's open to all...

I'd love to get your entries.

Submit by 21st March!

Love, Beepee


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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:40 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Official press release from Legislator Gordon Freeman

Eurgh

That made me dislike TSP a little smidgen more, thanks for that >:(

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