Embassy of the South Pacific

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

Yes, thats called the risks of treaty signing. You dont get to make demands if the treaty is broken. Its perfectly logical. You have to weigh risk vs reward. Im unsure how you think tsp gets to tell a region who to or not to ban. Because they were taken advantage of.. If wars the consequence ok. But the npo or any region has any obligation to listen anymore.

So you're saying that being taken advantage of by an ally is a consequence of signing a treaty? What kind of logic is that?

Reality. Is the npo going to ban perg no. They have no reason too. They don't have to because everyone says to they dont answer to you the only thing the enemies of the npo can do is hope changes comes or try and cut down Ale's 175k plis influence and coup.

The npo has a greay in-house propaganda machine most npoers dont go to gp. They dont care about what other regions want they are happy there.. Everyone can hate the npo but the npo wont and will not care. I mean, whos to say in six Weeks ale and perg wont be back in power and gp on to the new shiny drama... Thats what gp does. Its got such a short attention span the npo regime knows and has weathered the same thing 5 years ago when I started in the npo. Thats what they do. They are under no obligation to listen to anyone since everyone pulled what little leverage there was now they will just prepare for a seige and see who blinks first. Its rational and reasonable.

So the you broke the treaty and now you owe us something is not going to work in any place since theyve been there done that...

[Cormactopia Prime]

I'm pleased to see that the South Pacific has issued a decisive response to the NPO's subversion and aggression. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect, but it's good to see that reason has prevailed and TSP will be sticking with its actual allies, particularly TNP, and not with the NPO. NPO delenda est.

[Ambrella]

Excellent statement. Will you be closing your embassy as well?

[Armaros]

Good statement. Glad to see TSP stand up for itself.

[Aumeltopia]

Excellent statement. Will you be closing your embassy as well?

Should the Assembly vote in favor of repealing the treaty, we will likely be closing the embassy.

[Lord Dominator]

Excellent statement. Will you be closing your embassy as well?

Should the Assembly vote in favor of repealing the treaty, we will likely be closing the embassy.

Which is either very likely or very unlikely, depending on how one wants to view the number of motions to waive the debate period

[TSP Foreign Office]

The Assembly of the South Pacific has voted to terminate the Coalition's treaty with the New Pacific Order as of 3 December, 2018. The deconstruction of in-game embassies has also commenced.

- Minister of Foreign Affairs Aumeltopia

[Aclion]

I'm sure TSP's government is glad to have attention drawn away from their owns actions over the past year. :x

[The Pirate King of TWP]

[Elegarth]

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The only reason this happened is cuz you didn't included TWP in the poll... *coolness*

[Malphe]

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(though not including TWP was petty tbh)

[Darkesia]

It was fun!

Honestly the Pacific is the second best (after TWP) GCR and it's a shame they are having this NewPO problem.

[Roavin]

(though not including TWP was petty tbh)

My suspicion is that it was a legitimate mistake (though Aidenfieeld hasn't said anything about it).

If TSP were to deliberately leave out a GCR, it'd surely be Balder.

[Benjabobaria]

Absolutely hilarious if TSP seriously thought that excluding TWP from a poll would discourage them from raiding it. West is best o/

[Fujai]

My suspicion is that it was a legitimate mistake (though Aidenfieeld hasn't said anything about it).

Considering the outcome of TSP's last poll on the subject, I doubt it was a mistake.

[TSP Foreign Office]

Statement on Lazarus

In the last few years, Lazarus was subject to several major upheavals and crises. In early 2017, the region fell into civil war. Soon after, it was subjected to the iron fist of the illegitimate Undead Dominion of Lazarus, which purged dissidents with impunity; in early 2018, the Khanate was instated by those same autocrats. Finally, in April of last year, Imkiville forcibly took over the region, prompting an unprecedented pact between six of the remaining eight major GCRs, with the South Pacific in a leading role. The Coalition of the South Pacific’s goals for our involvement in Lazarus was always to help the region realize “a new Lazarus by Lazarenes for Lazarenes,” as envisioned in the Peacekeeper Agreement of April 2018. The Cabinet signed the agreement in the hopes that a constitutional convention would result in a popular government, and that the process would be protected from outside interference by an interim caretaker Delegate.

Unfortunately, the convention did not succeed for many reasons. We sympathize with the frustration at the lack of progress, having gone through a constitutional convention ourselves following a coup. However, we were concerned by Imkiville's decision to put her own constitution in place, without consulting with signatories of the Peacekeeper Agreement prior to her actions. We believe it is important to keep the promises one makes in inter-regional diplomacy, and breaking the Peacekeeper Agreement, in letter or in spirit, instilled doubts about the Delegate’s commitment to diplomacy. As the oldest democracy in NationStates, and given our role and interests in the peacekeeping experiment, we found ourselves in an unenviable position. We decided to withhold judgement on Mandate 12 and the new regime’s ability to garner popular support amongst natives, and instead monitor the developments in Lazarus and reassess our position at a later date.

While we remain disappointed at Imkiville's sudden termination of the democratic Convention, at this point we can no longer ignore the positive growth we are seeing in Lazarus. Imkiville and her appointed team have built a strong and increasingly stable community without any major conflicts, and even Lazarene citizens who were previously sceptical of Imkiville's rule have come to near-universally stand by the Mandate 12 government. Imkiville has eschewed full rule by fiat in favor of encouraging and prompting healthy debate and democratic decision-making. Rather than appointing personal associates, Imkiville chose to tap into the pool of Lazarenes both old and new, without consideration for their allegiance under previous systems. All of this is consistent with the guiding principle of "a new Lazarus by Lazarenes for Lazarenes", fully in the spirit of the original Peacekeeper Agreement. Furthermore, the government of Lazarus has acted nothing but friendly in our informal interactions, and Imkiville has been both professional and courteous with both our government and our citizens.

In light of recent dealings we have had with Lazarus and the progress we have seen made by the new government, the Cabinet of the South Pacific has unanimously agreed to extend diplomatic recognition to the Corporation of Lazarus under Mandate 12 as the legitimate ruling government of Lazarus. We hope that the future continues to be bright for Lazarus and our long relationship with each other.

Sincerely,
The Cabinet of the South Pacific

[Killer Kitty]

Took you long enough.

[Ryccia]

I am glad my homeland finally decided to recognize the reality of my other region of residence. This is a right, albeit belated move that just had to come.

[Wycliffe]

Right on time. I appreciate that both sides can acknowledge the reality of the new Lazarus and commit to working together for its future.

[Cormactopia Prime]

A good decision from the Cabinet of the South Pacific. It's good to see the Cabinet demonstrating independence from a loud minority of petty ideologues.

[New Rogernomics]

Thank you for taking this step, as hard as it has been since the collapse of the Humane Republic and Celestial Union.

Lazarus is taking time to recover, and from time to time mistakes will be made on that road. Whether it was the failed convention, diplomatic issues, or the difficulties had building a government and community from scratch.

[Potato]

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[Borovan3]

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[Your Imaginary Friend]

...the Cabinet of the South Pacific has unanimously agreed to extend diplomatic recognition to the Corporation of Lazarus under Mandate 12 as the legitimate ruling government of Lazarus. We hope that the future continues to be bright for Lazarus and our long relationship with each other.

Yippeeee!