Oh I wouldn’t go that far. I’m pretty sure my phone still has a built-in flashlight.
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by Kringalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:40 am
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:01 am
Escade wrote: ... and stated his intentions to remove Tim, including stating in a public place that Tim came from trash.
by Midand » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:46 am
by Armaros » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:13 am
Kringalia wrote:Consular wrote:Not sure what anyone can say at this point, beyond expressing profound disappointment with TSP's admin team.
It's like you guys are actively trying to usurp the shittiest admin throne from TNP eh
I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief.
by Tim-Opolis » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:13 am
Kringalia wrote:Consular wrote:Not sure what anyone can say at this point, beyond expressing profound disappointment with TSP's admin team.
It's like you guys are actively trying to usurp the shittiest admin throne from TNP eh
I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief.
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
by Consular » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:42 am
Kringalia wrote:Consular wrote:Not sure what anyone can say at this point, beyond expressing profound disappointment with TSP's admin team.
It's like you guys are actively trying to usurp the shittiest admin throne from TNP eh
I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief.
by The Church of Satan » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:35 am
Kringalia wrote:I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:43 am
Roavin wrote:Emphasis mine. And you know this because...?
In fact, let me take this opportunity to thank regional administrators that decided not to engage in the "fun" here on GP but instead talked to us directly.
The original quote by the referenced individual:I hope one day you make the right turn, do the right thing, and rehabilitate yourself, because the path you've chosen is not going make this game fun for you again.
Whether one agrees or disagrees with the content of quote, it's clear that this neither states that she should go to rehab, nor does the context even imply it. It's like saying that "fired up and ready to go", one of several campaign chants Obama used back in 2008, was advocating for arson.
Many of the other allegations should be interpreted accordingly.
Southern Bellz wrote:good riddance.
Tandriheer wrote:Ugh... I'm new to TSP, but I don't really understand all this. All I do is hang around on the RMB, and most of the drama is happening forumside. Perhaps we could all calm down and resolve this nicely, calmly and without further drama? I will remain neutral, although I am leaning in Escade's favour.
Midand wrote:Aaaaand the fire's spreading to the buildings as well.
Great.
The ban could be over and we could still be arguing about this...
Armaros wrote:Kringalia wrote:I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief.
I doubt many people thought you would. If you ban someone for OOC reasons but refuse to show evidence for it, I doubt TSP will see how unreasonable they're acting. Claiming you're an open and transparent democracy while at the same time purging political opponents for "OOC harrassment" while refusing to show evidence for that claim isn't the best way to go. Choose one side to go with.
Consular wrote:Kringalia wrote:I mean, I hope you guys in Gameplay didn’t actually think there’s anything you could say, do, criticise or threaten us with, that would make us alter the bans. That would be a misguided belief.
We literally never asked for that dude. What people want is evidence, consistent treatment for admins that have demonstrated similar behaviour, and an explanation for your apparent failure to follow reasonable processes.
The cabinet of The East Pacific has requested that we state the following for the public record: The dispute between The East Pacific and The Black Hawks came to a satisfactory resolution. In the reissue of the proscriptions that are planned after the delivery of the court's opinion, the Cabinet of the South Pacific does not intend to include any mention of The East Pacific.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Kringalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:58 am
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Also, are you leaking a verdict that you got to see early there, or just assuming you'll lose?
by Consular » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:29 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:32 am
Consular wrote:Kringalia wrote:Oh not at all. Rulings are never shared with anyone outside the Court. Roavin knows as much about how the Court will rule as you do.
Oh well that's very reassuring to hear. I don't know about you Souls, but I'm totally convinced by these words and have no concerns whatsoever. It's not like TSP has demonstrated an inability to be trusted with its own procedures or anything
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Kringalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:47 am
Consular wrote:Kringalia wrote:Oh not at all. Rulings are never shared with anyone outside the Court. Roavin knows as much about how the Court will rule as you do.
Oh well that's very reassuring to hear. I don't know about you Souls, but I'm totally convinced by these words and have no concerns whatsoever. It's not like TSP has demonstrated an inability to be trusted with its own procedures or anything
by The Church of Satan » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:05 am
by Kringalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:19 am
The Church of Satan wrote:Kringalia wrote:Oh not at all. Rulings are never shared with anyone outside the Court. Roavin knows as much about how the Court will rule as you do.
Don't be so humble Kringalia. We both know that's not true. We both know that TSP's court is nothing more than a figurehead for forum administration and TSP's political elite. That's been obvious for the last three years now.
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:19 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:38 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Can you name, without looking, the justices who have sat on our court over the past 3 years?
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Reploid Productions » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:46 am
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Can you name, without looking, the justices who have sat on our court over the past 3 years?
I bet you’re not not a REAL gamer girl, just a slut who poses with a controller and streams twitch IRL.
And to the rest of you, you’re not a REAL TSP hater if you can’t name the all the TSP justices in the past 3 years without looking. You heard me. Go on. Can’t do it? Get back to kitchen and make me a sandwich.
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:50 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:51 am
Reploid Productions wrote:Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
I bet you’re not not a REAL gamer girl, just a slut who poses with a controller and streams twitch IRL.
And to the rest of you, you’re not a REAL TSP hater if you can’t name the all the TSP justices in the past 3 years without looking. You heard me. Go on. Can’t do it? Get back to kitchen and make me a sandwich.
While I see the point you're making here, plz to dial it back some kthx.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by The Church of Satan » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:54 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:If you’re going to say something as specific as TSP’s courts have been corrupt for exactly the past 3 years, then I think it’s reasonable to ask how much knowledge you have of TSP’s courts over the past 3 years. What exactly happened 3 years ago? Who was on the court?
by North East Somerset » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:01 pm
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:30 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:If you’re going to say something as specific as TSP’s courts have been corrupt for exactly the past 3 years, then I think it’s reasonable to ask how much knowledge you have of TSP’s courts over the past 3 years. What exactly happened 3 years ago? Who was on the court?
Remember TAC Saxton and Apad? When forum administration illegally obtained evidence to get rid of them? Oh sure you provided several excuses but even Tsunamy saw it for what was. I can't imagine why she never did anything about it.
North East Somerset wrote:Tim: "I mean the real deal skinny of tsp is it has a cabal at the very top that doesn't care too much for due process, and shoots down new people to stay in power."
North East Somerset wrote:The worrying thing here really is the inability of TSP Admin to separate IC/OOC, and their willingness to invoke the latter, for what appears to be political expediency.
by North East Somerset » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:50 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:North East Somerset wrote:Tim: "I mean the real deal skinny of tsp is it has a cabal at the very top that doesn't care too much for due process, and shoots down new people to stay in power."
I think there are some new TSPers who have some feelings about how Tim treated them running for office.North East Somerset wrote:The worrying thing here really is the inability of TSP Admin to separate IC/OOC, and their willingness to invoke the latter, for what appears to be political expediency.
How do we determine when prolonged & sustained flaming and baiting of targeted people is IC vs OOC? Which one makes it okay?
by The Church of Satan » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:21 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:The Church of Satan wrote:Remember TAC Saxton and Apad? When forum administration illegally obtained evidence to get rid of them? Oh sure you provided several excuses but even Tsunamy saw it for what was. I can't imagine why she never did anything about it.
He*
Do you remember the part where those two players were breaking the law by fraudulently writing appeals on their own rulings, but signing them as another justice? Can't imagine the vitriol GP would be sending my way had I ever done something like that.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:01 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:He*
Do you remember the part where those two players were breaking the law by fraudulently writing appeals on their own rulings, but signing them as another justice? Can't imagine the vitriol GP would be sending my way had I ever done something like that.
Do you remember the part where your alleged evidence wasn't presented? What about the part where none of the justices provided the evidence because their ruling was unanimoous? What about the part where one of the three admins at the time saw how wrong and illegal your so-called evidence was obtained. Two admins (you Glen and Kringalia) were his only supporters between the High Court and forum administration however neither of you were justices. Despite that one or both of you went into a private subforum that is strictly for private deliberations between justices and used those deliberations as evidence. More than that, their only "crime" was that the Court's ruling suggested a means by which the Assembly could make to close a legal loophole which regional law said was their right to do. Both of you broke regional law to obtain your evidence. Sure as admins you legitimately had access to the High Court's deliberations but only in an OOC administrative capacity. Because it benefited you though, you approached it in an IC, political manner and labeled them as criminals for a crime that wasn't even a crime. Even worse you never presented your so called evidence. All because you disagreed with their ruling. As always, TSP's forum administration abused its power for their own gain. Hide it behind all the excuses you want but public opinion was that the lack of evidence and forum administration's bullying of the High Court was wrong. Even your root admin, Tsunamy, believed that.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
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