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The NAtion OF Froggy
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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:05 pm

This just confirms Laz is basically wrapped up.

If the resistence had a heart beat, its fading so fast.

I can not imagine this lasting much longer.
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Funkadelia
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:55 pm

Escade wrote:Or is there going to be crickets chirping and being really like ugh.

What?
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Vuori Kunin-Grrs
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:59 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Escade wrote:Or is there going to be crickets chirping and being really like ugh.

What?

Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity, and you're still losing endorsements. Unless you're hiring a special group of players to help bring activity into Lazarus, you'll need those 25 nations that you banjected, or you'll end up with a dead, stagnant region.

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Big Bad Badger
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Postby Big Bad Badger » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:What?

Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity, and you're still losing endorsements. Unless you're hiring a special group of players to help bring activity into Lazarus, you'll need those 25 nations that you banjected, or you'll end up with a dead, stagnant region.

Funkadelia wrote:What?

They seem to be doing a fine job on their discord, forum, and RMB.
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Swarshengaggen
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Postby Swarshengaggen » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:34 pm

Big Bad Badger wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity, and you're still losing endorsements. Unless you're hiring a special group of players to help bring activity into Lazarus, you'll need those 25 nations that you banjected, or you'll end up with a dead, stagnant region.

Funkadelia wrote:What?

They seem to be doing a fine job on their discord, forum, and RMB.

Doing a fine job rebuilding everything that was built by those 25 nations and destroyed by Funk for the sake of "inactivity," indeed. Not to mention that those rebuilding are mostly raiders that aren't likely to stay long in what is essentially a GCR version of the Illuminati coup.
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Funkadelia
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:52 pm

Swarshengaggen wrote:
Big Bad Badger wrote:
They seem to be doing a fine job on their discord, forum, and RMB.

Doing a fine job rebuilding everything that was built by those 25 nations and destroyed by Funk for the sake of "inactivity," indeed. Not to mention that those rebuilding are mostly raiders that aren't likely to stay long in what is essentially a GCR version of the Illuminati coup.

If talking out your bum was a sport, you'd have an Olympic gold medal.
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Swarshengaggen
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Postby Swarshengaggen » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:43 am

Funkadelia wrote:
Swarshengaggen wrote:Doing a fine job rebuilding everything that was built by those 25 nations and destroyed by Funk for the sake of "inactivity," indeed. Not to mention that those rebuilding are mostly raiders that aren't likely to stay long in what is essentially a GCR version of the Illuminati coup.

If talking out your bum was a sport, you'd have an Olympic gold medal.

That's a lame comeback - especially seeing that you aren't talking about your own position at all, instead resorting to acting as if you were all knowing. I'm afraid that your poor observation just makes your arguments seem like squabbling over the littlest of attacks.
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Altheriol
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Postby Altheriol » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:35 am

Big Bad Badger wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity, and you're still losing endorsements. Unless you're hiring a special group of players to help bring activity into Lazarus, you'll need those 25 nations that you banjected, or you'll end up with a dead, stagnant region.

Funkadelia wrote:What?

They seem to be doing a fine job on their discord, forum, and RMB.

In which case do they even need the specific region?
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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:32 am

Altheriol wrote:
Big Bad Badger wrote:
They seem to be doing a fine job on their discord, forum, and RMB.

In which case do they even need the specific region?


...What?

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Derpsles
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Postby Derpsles » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:41 am

Altheriol wrote:In which case do they even need the specific region?

The 'resistance' also claims to be doing a fine job, activity-wise. By the same logic, do they even need Lazarus as a specific region? After all, they seem to be doing fine without it :roll:
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Altheriol
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Postby Altheriol » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:55 am

Killer Kitty wrote:
Altheriol wrote:In which case do they even need the specific region?


...What?

As in, to how great a degree does being part of Lazarus the NS region matter to their community?
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Crickets Chirping Like Ugh
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Postby Crickets Chirping Like Ugh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:22 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:What?

Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity, and you're still losing endorsements. Unless you're hiring a special group of players to help bring activity into Lazarus, you'll need those 25 nations that you banjected, or you'll end up with a dead, stagnant region.

My coming was foretold!

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Altino
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Postby Altino » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:28 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Face it. You aren't as skilled as the people in Osiris in arousing activity


Yeah, the people in Osiris are awesome. 100% Agee. Real go-getters. Not sure what that has to do with Laz tho. :p

*applauds herself and runs away*
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Postby Gracius Maximus » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:55 am

Derpsles wrote:
Altheriol wrote:In which case do they even need the specific region?

The 'resistance' also claims to be doing a fine job, activity-wise. By the same logic, do they even need Lazarus as a specific region? After all, they seem to be doing fine without it :roll:

This has always been something that confuses me. Nations moan on and on about community and yet focus unnecessarily upon a specific region. If the 'resistance' feels that they are best served in a community where Funkadelia is not the Delegate then they are free to establish their own region and offsite community where that is the case. Why even expend the energy on a region from which they have definitively been removed?
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:16 am

Gracius Maximus wrote:
Derpsles wrote:The 'resistance' also claims to be doing a fine job, activity-wise. By the same logic, do they even need Lazarus as a specific region? After all, they seem to be doing fine without it :roll:

This has always been something that confuses me. Nations moan on and on about community and yet focus unnecessarily upon a specific region. If the 'resistance' feels that they are best served in a community where Funkadelia is not the Delegate then they are free to establish their own region and offsite community where that is the case. Why even expend the energy on a region from which they have definitively been removed?

Playing devil's advocate a bit here though, since I'm not on the side of the "resistance" -- how boring would gameplay be if everyone just gave up and moved on to found their own user-created region in situations like this? We do need conflict in gameplay.

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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:17 am

Because they consider Lazarus their home.
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Consular
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Postby Consular » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:19 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:Because they consider Lazarus their home.

It's really this simple. People get attached, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Kylia Quilor
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:21 am

Consular wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:Because they consider Lazarus their home.

It's really this simple. People get attached, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Indeed.

I mean, there's a reason the Osiran resistance moved on after they lost - they were attached to Osiris itself, not the notion of resistance or the speciifc collection of people that opposed the Tim/Koth/Cormac coup
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:21 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:Because they consider Lazarus their home.

Eh, I'm not sure about that. I'm sure they claim they consider Lazarus their home, but a lot of these people are cosmopolitans who are involved in multiple regions, or who move from region to region trying to grab power. Several of them are much more invested in other regions than they are in Lazarus. I don't think they necessarily consider Lazarus "their home," but clearly they do consider it their territory -- something that should remain under their control, no matter how much time or effort they dedicate to it (which, in many of these people's cases, hasn't been much time or effort at all).
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:23 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Kylia Quilor wrote:Because they consider Lazarus their home.

Eh, I'm not sure about that. I'm sure they claim they consider Lazarus their home, but a lot of these people are cosmopolitans involved in multiple regions, or who move from region to region trying to grab power. Several of them are much more invested in other regions than they are in Lazarus. I don't think they necessarily consider Lazarus "their home," but clearly they do consider it their territory -- something that should remain under their control, no matter how much time or effort they dedicate to it (which, in many of these people's cases, hasn't been much time or effort at all).

I consider both Kantrias and Europeia to be my home, and did the same for TNI when I was there.
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Postby Consular » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:24 am

I consider TWP a home in a sense and would lend aid if they requested, though I don't reside there anymore.

Home means different things to different folks.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:25 am

Kylia Quilor wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Eh, I'm not sure about that. I'm sure they claim they consider Lazarus their home, but a lot of these people are cosmopolitans involved in multiple regions, or who move from region to region trying to grab power. Several of them are much more invested in other regions than they are in Lazarus. I don't think they necessarily consider Lazarus "their home," but clearly they do consider it their territory -- something that should remain under their control, no matter how much time or effort they dedicate to it (which, in many of these people's cases, hasn't been much time or effort at all).

I consider both Kantrias and Europeia to be my home, and did the same for TNI when I was there.

Right, and that is possible -- but also rare. Many cosmopolitans favor one region over others in which they're involved. From what I know, you've put significant time and effort into all three regions, but a lot of the "resistance" haven't put much time or effort into Lazarus compared to how much time and effort they're putting into other regions in which they are more invested. Funkadelia has raised several examples of that.

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The Sygian
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Postby The Sygian » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:41 am

Escade wrote:Sad to see it took several long I think everyone knows I'm not shy about stating my opinions and like I totes am highly annoyed by the lameness exhibited here because of the attempt to go from catty nonsense to OC - like grasping at straws without any real argument or some sort of straw people... What's irrelevant to me is general blah blah blah boring and lots of things like this convo.

Stay classy, TSP!
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The NAtion OF Froggy
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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:56 am

The Sygian wrote:
Escade wrote:Sad to see it took several long I think everyone knows I'm not shy about stating my opinions and like I totes am highly annoyed by the lameness exhibited here because of the attempt to go from catty nonsense to OC - like grasping at straws without any real argument or some sort of straw people... What's irrelevant to me is general blah blah blah boring and lots of things like this convo.

Stay classy, TSP!


So, I wasn't the only one saying this in my head then.

I am unsure where this thread will go next its like that car crash you don't want to look away from but know youre holding up traffic by being a lookieloo.
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I ain't saying I'm the best but I should be in the top ten, give me a list of names, I'm-ma top them
I'm just playing with ya, I don't care where the top is
Leave me at the bottom, let me work for it, you ain't never gonna find another rapper in the game
And tell me that he works more, tell me that he works more, nah!

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East Kerbin
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Postby East Kerbin » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:26 am

Man, why can't Funkadelia just eject and ban the rebels?

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