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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:20 am

i helped TBH kill NewTexas' del streak in 2015
i helped Lily kill Mikeswill's del streak in 2020

in 2025 the only way i can top myself again is by coming for Max Barry himself
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Postby Boda » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:37 am

We officially couped NationStates. Mention this for condemn lily?
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Postby Bobberino » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:47 am

The United Vex Imperium wrote:IT IS GOOD TO SEE A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER TO THE NEW DELEGATE OF NATIONSTATES, MAY THEIR REIGN BE PROSPEROUS AND FRUITFUL.

anyways about the party, turkey was a bit overcooked.


yeah and the pie was kinda meh, maybe a 3/10
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:07 pm

its sure nice to see a peaceful transition of power in one of the most ancient regions
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:46 pm

Did people congratulate the new new delegate of Nationstates yet? This Mikeswill fellow just nabbed it.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:53 pm

There's some strong anti-invader sentiment from the natives on NationStates' RMB; perhaps they could be persuaded to get involved in defending other regions against such attacks?

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Postby Unibot III » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:22 pm

Sedgistan wrote:There's some strong anti-invader sentiment from the natives on NationStates' RMB; perhaps they could be persuaded to get involved in defending other regions against such attacks?


Or Mikeswill will continue to grift invaderism. :roll:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:36 pm

Sedgistan wrote:There's some strong anti-invader sentiment from the natives on NationStates' RMB; perhaps they could be persuaded to get involved in defending other regions against such attacks?

TGW there on the updater list is in theory defender, so not sure how well that'll go :p

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Postby Frattastan IV » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:55 pm

Proof that relying on DEN for your protection is a bad idea, and just ends up painting a bigger target on you. Maybe if Mikeswill had chosen to be friends with TGW this would have never happened.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:19 pm

Frattastan IV wrote:Proof that relying on DEN for your protection is a bad idea, and just ends up painting a bigger target on you. Maybe if Mikeswill had chosen to be friends with TGW this would have never happened.

You heard it here first, folks. Be nice to the fendas or they'll invade your region. Not that this is news to anyone who's paid attention over the years.

But congratulations to the non-defenders in this coalition for pulling this off. Pretty impressive stuff.

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Postby Frenchy II » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:40 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Frattastan IV wrote:Proof that relying on DEN for your protection is a bad idea, and just ends up painting a bigger target on you. Maybe if Mikeswill had chosen to be friends with TGW this would have never happened.

You heard it here first, folks. Be nice to the fendas or they'll invade your region. Not that this is news to anyone who's paid attention over the years.

But congratulations to the non-defenders in this coalition for pulling this off. Pretty impressive stuff.

I think I'm a non-defender, thanks Cormac.
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Postby Gibraltarica » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:06 pm

NationStates should have had more regional security if they didn't want their delegacy toppled. We were just encouraging activity in an otherwise boring region.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:07 pm

I mean all they were doing were having fun and bonding with each other you can't fault them for that :shrug:
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:30 pm

Haku: defender of the year

Also haku: organizes probs the biggest raid of 2020

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Postby Mikeswill » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Y'all are so much fun... but I love the attention.

The credit goes to the 17 year old kid that took down the 16 year old streak.
That kid (Frenchy II) organized a flawless invasion.
The fact that I was on-line is especially notable as I am typically asleep at 12:17 am


There might be four Nations that were around NationStates region 17 years ago when I first became UN Delegate
Maybe two who understand how impossible it was to try to be independent between the Raider/Defender factions at the time.

I came to NationStates in my first year of sobriety
It was an awesome diversion from my previous life
In these 17 years I have grown immensely though sometimes the road was messy
NationStates has been a mirror of that path

Today I am at Peace with the world
The streak is over and another day has awoken

It's all good
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Postby Frenchy II » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:03 pm

Mikeswill wrote:Y'all are so much fun... but I love the attention.

The credit goes to the 17 year old kid that took down the 16 year old streak.
That kid (Frenchy II) organized a flawless invasion.
The fact that I was on-line is especially notable as I am typically asleep at 12:17 am


There might be four Nations that were around NationStates region 17 years ago when I first became UN Delegate
Maybe two who understand how impossible it was to try to be independent between the Raider/Defender factions at the time.

I came to NationStates in my first year of sobriety
It was an awesome diversion from my previous life
In these 17 years I have grown immensely though sometimes the road was messy
NationStates has been a mirror of that path

Today I am at Peace with the world
The streak is over and another day has awoken

It's all good

Thank you, Mike. I can say that over the last month I've grown in appreciation for you and NationStates as a region. Your contributions towards NationStates as a region are clearly unmatched, and your consistency and stability to the game are second to none over the last 17 years. Impressively, you've been on NS longer than I've been alive, and your leadership and peacekeeping fall nothing short of admirable. Keep up the good work and all else that you do around here.
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Postby SKM » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:33 pm

I would just like to say a few words.
Lily has done it.
*applause*

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Postby New Agraces » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:39 pm

I like the thread name.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:47 am

Mikeswill wrote:Y'all are so much fun... but I love the attention.

The credit goes to the 17 year old kid that took down the 16 year old streak.
That kid (Frenchy II) organized a flawless invasion.
The fact that I was on-line is especially notable as I am typically asleep at 12:17 am


There might be four Nations that were around NationStates region 17 years ago when I first became UN Delegate
Maybe two who understand how impossible it was to try to be independent between the Raider/Defender factions at the time.

I came to NationStates in my first year of sobriety
It was an awesome diversion from my previous life
In these 17 years I have grown immensely though sometimes the road was messy
NationStates has been a mirror of that path

Today I am at Peace with the world
The streak is over and another day has awoken

It's all good


you're one of the good ones, Mike <3
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Postby A Bloodred Moon » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:03 pm

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A bit late, I'll admit, but an interesting development. I simply cannot wait for TITO to contradict their "values" they pursue so zealously in order to justify continued cooperation with TGW. It'd appear that the love of double standards within the defender faction is as prominent as it ever was. Not that that is any news; as much as they love to call everyone engaging in raiding bullies and what not, their principles are remarkably absent as soon as they see political advantage, as it has been over the years. One only needs to look at XKI's treaty with the East Pacific to see that their crusade against anyone who would engage in raiding only applies when convenient. As for TGW crashing a delegacy record... I wonder what their members' past reactions to such actions were when executed by raiders? When TBH did that, they didn't react in quite the same way. I suppose times change.

Congratulations to Lily, JTF and the NPA, in any case. Though when it comes to the NPA, one has to wonder why they decided to participate in a raid against their own embassy partner. :p

Frattastan IV wrote:Proof that relying on DEN for your protection is a bad idea, and just ends up painting a bigger target on you. Maybe if Mikeswill had chosen to be friends with TGW this would have never happened.

I dare say NationStates wasn't relying on DEN at all for their protection. That'd be fairly pointless nowadays. Rather, I don't think NationStates expected to be raided by defenders, being a region that did not raid. It'd appear they were mistaken.

Congratulations to Mike on the longest delegate streak (and a record that will not be beaten anytime soon, I might add) nonetheless, and to Lily on gathering such an update force, credit where it is due. Congratulations also to Frenchy on organising this. As unusual as the operation and it's circumstances was, it was well-executed from the looks of it.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:11 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:There's some strong anti-invader sentiment from the natives on NationStates' RMB; perhaps they could be persuaded to get involved in defending other regions against such attacks?

TGW there on the updater list is in theory defender, so not sure how well that'll go :p

I must agree that openly invading a region is not the normal tactic I would use to try to convince a region to work with me. Especially not with a slogan like "endorsements make right" which could have come out of Francos Spain's mouth. To me this actually reads a lot like Lily persuading a bunch of defenders to hand invaders a propaganda victory, which I do have to applaud as a much more impressive feat than yet another bunch of tedious tag raids.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:19 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:To me this actually reads a lot like Lily persuading a bunch of defenders to hand invaders a propaganda victory, which I do have to applaud as a much more impressive feat than yet another bunch of tedious tag raids.


ah yes, LILY handing TBH a propaganda victory. that interpretation of events is very realistic and shows a lot of knowledge of NSGP.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:36 pm

serious comment time, so let me stop typing in casual grammar.

Lily organized a huge operation to bump off Mikeswill, mostly just to mine raider salt, but also as revenge for NewTexas, and here we have the reaction of "Oh, it was actually just to give raiders a propaganda victory!". Some of you on the defender side are not only unappreciative, but undeserving. Do you want Lily to be a raiding group? Do you want us to (very easily) overtake TBH in activity and make defending a total grind? Is that what you want?

We're not some impure group of traitors, sabotaging the defender propaganda effort. But keep calling us that, go ahead, and one day LILY might decide to dive into the relatively untapped defender salt mines.

(I really dislike when true independent orgs get trashed, if you can't tell.)
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Postby Frenchy II » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:37 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:I must agree that openly invading a region is not the normal tactic I would use to try to convince a region to work with me. Especially not with a slogan like "endorsements make right" which could have come out of Francos Spain's mouth. To me this actually reads a lot like Lily persuading a bunch of defenders to hand invaders a propaganda victory, which I do have to applaud as a much more impressive feat than yet another bunch of tedious tag raids.

I don't know you, I don't know Francos Spain, and I'm not megamind with a plan to undermine defenders. Stop trying to read into the mind of someone who's younger than your nation lol
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Postby Comfed » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:58 pm

RiderSyl wrote:Lily organized a huge operation to bump off Mikeswill, mostly just to mine raider salt, but also as revenge for NewTexas, and here we have the reaction of "Oh, it was actually just to give raiders a propaganda victory!". Some of you on the defender side are not only unappreciative, but undeserving. Do you want Lily to be a raiding group? Do you want us to (very easily) overtake TBH in activity and make defending a total grind? Is that what you want?

That would be interesting to watch. :p

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