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Raiding Hall of Fame: Nominations for 2022 Class OPEN!

Postby Reventus Koth » Sat May 27, 2017 9:14 am

Raiding Hall of Fame


The Raiding Hall of Fame serves to preserve the history of raiding, which also celebrating the greatest contributors to raiding in NationStates. The Hall of Fame began in 2015 as part of RaiderCon and inducts new members each year with the help of judges. The newest class is announced annually at the end of RaiderCon in July. Being selected to the Raiding Hall of Fame is an honor bestowed to only the best raiding gameplayers in history. Below are the current members of this elite institution:


2015 Class:

Evil Wolf: EW showed that pure raiders could be more that just players who raid. The second founder of LWU, EW has been one of raiding's leaders with raids including Lazarus and Anarchy, helped destroy Nazi Europe, and has served as delegate of TNP among other leadership positions. EW's political and strategic efforts has set him apart for years.

General Franks: Franks, a former DEN Field Marshal, was a raiding giant during his time who greatly influenced modern raiding. DEN's lasting reputation, in large part, is due to his efforts of bringing stealth raiding, and a visionary mind, to the group. He started The Jolly Rodger, a raiding group that solely focused on Update Raiding (something unheard of at the time). In addition, he created The Den, Ile de France, and The Old Raiding Club. As one judge commented, "He was universally loathed by defenders, and feared by natives and gameplayers alike."

Gest: Gest has served as a keystone in raiding over the past four years. Without him, TBR and now the current DEN would not have lasted to become one of the premier raiding organizations in NS history. Under his leadership, long standing occupations and countless tag raids have occurred. Gest is a shining example of sturdy consistency and a strategic leader in raiding.*

*Gest was removed from the Hall of Fame on June 12, 2018. Formal announcement can be found here: viewtopic.php?p=34186620#p34186620

Of crazed: OC has been a bridge for many modern raiders of the past. He has had many impressive feats as a former Field Marshal of DEN including helping to lead the raid of The Rejected Realms with Taijitu, the Novus Orsa raid, and serving as the sleeper in the Catholic raid in 2012. OC has shown raiders time and time again how to be an outstanding, whole gameplayer.

Onderkelkia: As a player, Onder has greatly contributed to raiding over many years through the cooperation of several imperialist groups with raiders. He has led several large raids over the years including the 2012 raid of Belgium, which led to the raid of TRR, the first time a operation was used to overtake the sinker. Onder is a exceptional representation of a gameplayer who does not need to be a raider to positively impact raiding.

Red Back: Without the incredible efforts of RB, The Black Hawks would not exist today. He was the second founder of TBH and has served as the Commander for nearly a decade. He has contributed to several notable raids include Forest many years ago that reignited TBH, and most recently, serving as the sleeper for the raids of Hippiedom and Hell. RB is respected by all players and represents a role model all raiders should look up to.

Savaer: He was a powerhouse in raiding and for Unknown, serving in several leadership positions. He helped keep pure raiding alive during the post-NS2 era when nearly all raiding organizations were inactive. He contributed to several large scale raids including organizing or helping other Incognitan officers organize successful hits against major historical defender regions including Anticapitalist Alliance, Allied States of Euroislanders, and The Proletariat Coalition.


2016 Class:

Crushing Our Enemies: COE has served raiding as a member of The Black Hawks for over a decade. During his time with TBH, he had served in countless leadership roles including Head of Military, Head of Foreign Affairs, and second Commander. Throughout his career, COE has always displayed integrity, which has progressed raiding overall. His leadership during the Predator incident and overall has set a standard for all raiders for years to come.

North East Somerset: NES has set a standard for being a raiding advocate behind the scenes and in the spotlight. For over a decade, his tireless work in many capacities has furthered raiding exponentially. Since being a member of the DEN and co-founding The New DEN, his work has focused on intelligence, diplomatic relations, and GCRs. Through Great Britain and Ireland, The New Inquisition, and The Land of Kings and Emperors, NES has ensured strong relations between raiders and imperialists. He helped raiding become a part of so many regions that do not identity as raider as well as GCRs. NES also organized two Future of Raiding Conferences that was attended by most raiding organizations. Even in modern times, his work in intelligence, understanding influence, and passwords has benefited raiding tremendously.

Scardino: Scardino founded Lone Wolves United in April 2005, which has grown to become one of the most recognized raiding organization in NationStates history. Through LWU and on his own, relations were developed with most GCRs where Scar served as a voice and advocate for raiders. Scardino brought discipline and ideals to strive for through his writings including “Of Scardinoism.” His focus has always been the big picture of raiding and its impact. His influence over the years has helped raiders be seen as a valuable member of the GP community.

Shadow: Shadow started raiding in 2004 before joining Children of the Grave, a historic raiding group, as one of their original staff members. Through Children of the Grave, Shadow helped execute the 12 Raids of Christmas as well as the first all girl raid of East Asian Dominion in April of 2006. Recently, Shadow has continued to serve raiding in multiple organizations through her infiltration and sleeping. Her leadership in raiding has largely been behind the scenes, but she continues to influence many raiders today.

The Heights: Originally part of A Better Colonial Ambition, The Heights was part of the merge that became The Invaders, a historical raiding organization. During his time, The Heights served as a leader in strengthening unity among raiders during the early years. In 2004, The Heights co-hosted the Global Summit on Raiderplay and Defensive Operations. This summit was a gathering of raiders and defenders to “achieve a binding consensus agreement on the issues of raiderplay rules and practice, comity and cordiality between defender and raider organizations, the self-liberation of acquired regions and the development of raider colonies.” His professionalism as a player has set a standard for raiders today to follow.


2017 Class:

Belgium Fighters: As a former DEN Field Marshal, Belgium Fighters, played a major role in revitalizing the raiding organization after defender infiltration in its leadership. Furthermore, he contributed significantly to the foundations of The New Inquisition’s military in 2008-2009. Through his efforts in creating training materials and developing procedures, The New Inquisition Armed Forces (TNIAF) and later The United Imperial Armed Forces (UIAF) became professional military organizations that contributed to raiding for years.

General Powell: General Powell founded DEN, one of the most recognized raiding organization in NS history. He also laid the foundations for several aspects of raiding culture. He coined the phrase, “fenda,” which is often used to reference defenders. He advocated for the use of “raider” rather than “invader.” Additionally, through many of his efforts including the 2004 NationStates Global Summit on Raiderplay and Defensive Operations, an event in which he co-host and organized, General Powell played an instrumental role in helping to legitimize raiding among the eyes of others.

Nevadar: Gatesville was regarded as one of the most influential regions in NS for years, and this was largely due to Nevadar. She was a master of old raider methods like manipulation and networking, which became vital in her involvement of several feeder operations over the years. Most recently, her tactics were on full display during the 2013 coup of Osiris. Her leadership behind the scenes led to accomplishments that all raiders would revere.

Tramiar: Tramiar was involved in The Blades of Conquest and later, The Black Hawks during a decade-long raiding career. During a time when all region recruitment was done manually, she was a model of persistence with thousands upon thousands of telegrams sent over years. Furthermore, Tramiar played during a time in which there was not much interaction between raiders and other players, especially defenders. She played a fairly unique social game of genuine interaction with others outside of raiding, which showed raiders in a more positive light and is seen far more far today.


2018 Class:

Ditzie Freaks: She was a member of Lone Wolves United (joining in 2005) and served to build the organization into what it is still known for today. While she often was under the radar, her skills in training new players and developing raiding abilities ensured that her influence would be felt for years. Ditzie also participated in the first all girl raid of East Asian Dominion in April of 2006.

Domination6: One of the co-founders of the original incarnation of The Invaders, Domination6 was a leader and a diplomat in the raider community. He was able to form close relations with other raiding organizations, playing an instrumental role in maintaining unity and continued collaboration amongst raiders. He also was a force in counter-intelligence providing databases of known defenders and knowing when spies were around. In a time where the word "raider" was an insult, Domination6's character drew respect from all factions, helping to improve the standing of raiders and erode the basis for the moral posturing of defenders.

Jakker: Joining The Black Hawks at a time when nearly all of the influential, older raiders had diminished activity or left the game entirely, Jakker served as the perfect combination of old and new raid tactics. He rose to fame by challenging Unibot in the 2012 thread, "Jakker vs. Unibot." He led countless large-scale raids that has largely not been seen since. He was a pioneer in his effectiveness in hitting large regions as well as leading the charge of toppling nearly all of the longest delegacy streaks in NationStates. He was the first player to be condemned solely for raiding. He began RaiderCon, an annual convention that celebrates the past, present, and future of raiding, as well as founding this very Raiding Hall of Fame.

*Jakker was removed from the Hall of Fame on March 6, 2022, for out-of-game misconduct. There was no formal announcement.


2019 Class:

1 Infinite Loop: Loop was the founder of The Farkers, one of the first organized raiding groups in NationStates. The raids of The Farkers were foundational in developing tactics of raiding as it exists today. Furthermore, their large-scale raid of The Heartland and antagonizing practices largely influenced the adversarial dynamic of raiding and defending.

Killerkatz a.k.a. Shell: The founder of Catlandatopia, an efficient and effective raiding organization that peaked from 2006-2009. Killerkatz led and coordinated several raids including Feudal Japan, Florida, Brotherhood, India, Hethrum, and North Pacific. She was also heavily involved in the invasions of San Francisco Bay Area, a noteworthy defender region, and Marxist Leninist Party. Killerkatz ensured that their region remained the bane of defenders' existence while in operation, and through her tenacity she was widely regarded as a top notch raider commander.

Reventus Koth: Koth co-founded The Brotherhood of Malice, a raiding organization that helped forge the identity of Osiris, a Game Created Region, as raider. Later in his career, Koth rose to a General within The Black Hawks and was instrumental in building connections between the raiding and role-playing communities. He spearheaded a push to make raiding more acceptable to unaffiliated nations and inspired notable roleplayers to join raiding organizations.

Free Noldor States: Noldor played an integral role in two of the most well-known raiding organizations in history: DEN and The Black Hawks. He served as the DEN Field Marshal and helped transition the organization to modern raiding. He was also a General in The Black Hawks that helped to integrate new members. Noldor was an excellent advocate for raiding unity. Through his leadership and mentorship, newer raiders were able to carry older raiding practices forward.

Sorenity2: Sor was a former General of The Black Hawks, and was one of only 3 players ever to hold the title of TBH Commander-in-Chief. He played a pivotal role alongside Red Back in refounding TBH. As The Black Hawks’ Minister of Foreign Affairs and Head of Special Operations, he was involved in countless intelligence operations including the infiltration of The North Pacific using the alias "Galapagos Isle,"where he rose to the position of Minister of Defense.


2020 Class:

Mallorea and Riva: As a member of The Black Hawks and DEN from 2012 to 2014, Mall was a master opportunist through their involvement in multiple high-profile raids, the 2013 coup of The South Pacific, and the attempted Liberation of Haven. He also helped uncover a better mathematical understanding of influence for raiders. In addition to (and in spite of) these endeavors, he became the first raider moderator on the site and showed that one can play the villain well with integrity.

Nusseburg: The Atlantic Alliance, one of the earliest imperialist groups in NS history, was co-founded by Nusseburg in 2003. Nusseburg served as a commander for the Atlantic Central Command for multiple months in the organization's inception. While it is not possible to fully know of Nusseburg's accomplishments, they serve as a symbol for an organization that was involved in several raids of GCRs and helped build a foundation for many modern raiding tactics like ejecting natives, occupying regions, and invading multiple regions in an update.

Todd McCloud: As the founder of Fox Rite, Todd was involved in several raids from 2007 to 2009 on regions such as San Francisco Bay Area, a prominent defender region. He has served as a raiding advocate in multiple ways through his support of R/D in the game, and the benefits of chaos and conflict in gameplay. Todd has helped to show that someone can be trusted in GCRs and benefit those communities even if they have been a raider in the past.
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Guidelines for Inducting the Raiding HoF Class of 2018


Public nominations will be open now until June 24th. Any player can nominate someone for the Hall of Fame. Nominees should be gameplayers who have positively contributed to raiding over a significant period of time. To nominate, please post the nominee in this thread along with a statement describing why the player deserve to be inducted. The more information provided, the better for the candidate's chances.

After June 24h, the judges will come together to vote to induct up to five players to this year's class. Judges will also be able to nominate players on their own. The inductees will be announced at the conclusion of RaiderCon.

2018 Judges
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Crushing Our Enemies
Mallorea and Riva
Scardino
Savaer
The Stalker

Any questions regarding the nomination process can be directed here on the thread or to Jakker directly. This thread can also be used to discuss potential nominees and their contributions. The judges value as much information and insight as possible. We want to recognize as many deserving players as possible. The Public nomination period is officially open, so start discussing!
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Postby Gibraltarica » Sat May 27, 2017 9:57 am

I nominate Jakker.

Jakker has led multiple operations as point or trigger for the Black Hawks, among which (excluding those mentioned in Security Council 112) is the recent operation on Esquarium (wherein his nation, Rediar, which is "Raider" in reverse, went unnoticed by defenders). In addition to this, he has led the Black Hawks for a long time, most notably as Field Marshal from November 24, 2011 to August 16, 2012, and as Head of Military from then until October 15, 2013. Since then, whether on the Council Advisory board, or as Foreign Affairs Director for The Black Hawks, Jakker has played a large role in PR for The Black Hawks. Additionally, Jakker has stayed active in raiding to this day, including in recent tag raids led by other hawks.

As an aside, Jakker never ceases to amaze me with his calmness, graciousness, and willingess to talk to anyone, at any time. If there's anyone who deserves the honor of being inducted this year, it's Jakker.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat May 27, 2017 10:29 am

Gibraltarica wrote:I nominate Jakker.

(snip rest)

For judging purposes, I'm going to be assuming that this nomination will be judged by the four judges that aren't Jakker?
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Postby Consular » Sat May 27, 2017 6:26 pm

I find it kind of interesting that Gest is still in your Hall of fame.

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Postby Jakker » Sat May 27, 2017 7:14 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Gibraltarica wrote:I nominate Jakker.

(snip rest)

For judging purposes, I'm going to be assuming that this nomination will be judged by the four judges that aren't Jakker?


As I have done the previous two years, I'll be removing myself from consideration for induction due to my involvement. Vapid did provide an excellent example of a nomination and I appreciate the thought.

Consular wrote:I find it kind of interesting that Gest is still in your Hall of fame.


This has already begun being discussed by the judges. While I recognize that many may want a definitive response, It is a tricky situation that requires a lot of thought. Removal from the Hall is a very permanent action and so substantial due process is required.
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Postby Consular » Sat May 27, 2017 8:16 pm

Jakker wrote:
Consular wrote:I find it kind of interesting that Gest is still in your Hall of fame.


This has already begun being discussed by the judges. While I recognize that many may want a definitive response, It is a tricky situation that requires a lot of thought. Removal from the Hall is a very permanent action and so substantial due process is required.

That is fair enough.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun May 28, 2017 4:35 am

Jakker wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:For judging purposes, I'm going to be assuming that this nomination will be judged by the four judges that aren't Jakker?


As I have done the previous two years, I'll be removing myself from consideration for induction due to my involvement. Vapid did provide an excellent example of a nomination and I appreciate the thought.

Could you please stop being a judge for the Hall of Fame one year so we can induct you already? :P

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Postby Belschaft » Sun May 28, 2017 11:40 am

I'd like to make two nominations;

Mall, for top level trolling in a way that has managed to be principally funny rather than cruel. Liberate Haven was a work of genius.

Fratt, because it will annoy him greatly.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sun May 28, 2017 1:20 pm

I nominate La Navasse for being a shining light to all raiders. His detailed experience and dedication to his regions is what all raiders should aspire to be. I can't think of anyone more deserving of induction into the Raiding Hall of Disasters Fame.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sun May 28, 2017 1:35 pm

I did a lot of thinking and can't think of any veteran raiders who haven't been nominated yet. I can only think of the active newblood, due to them being the ones I raided alongside with.

Kawaii Village, Vandoosa, Ever-Wandering Souls, August, Altino, Rigel's Light, Maria, Derps/Pz4, Chingis, Tawks, Tom Vasentius (1 year HYDRA Director before he retired,) Kyorgia, Gibraltarica/Vapid_Vasentius ( He spent hours setting up raids of lots of targets) , Rai/Eclipse(I don't know much about this one, he did sleepers), I raided with Elindra once, Anera (LWU, retired), Satya Romefeller (retired(?) Leader of Hellenic), Knot, Owen, Vac, Karenus, Kleo(Ex-Firehelm), Don/George Mountbatten, and Gladio I guess.

Greyview, Liliarchy, and Valkyrie became pros only just this year so it's too soon whereas the above list includes people who've been at it for 2 years or more.
Nakari and Varax are ex-raiders I'd have recommended otherwise.

Sorry if this list seems relatively new. But I really don't know raiders who've been at it for 5+ years who are still active modern-day enough for me to meet (Who've joined in 12/31/2015 and DEN the next day.) ((EDIT:: Except Koth; I think I'll nominate him too if he's not already in HallofFame.)) I don't know old names, only people I've met personally. And I'm considered new myself, so....... thanks for reading.
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Postby Melqart » Sun May 28, 2017 1:37 pm

Great list Yuno, but some are ineligible, for the predator thing. I'd say August deserves it. Wasn't kkight an old raider?
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Postby Jakker » Sun May 28, 2017 2:10 pm

Melqart wrote:Great list Yuno, but some are ineligible, for the predator thing. I'd say August deserves it. Wasn't kkight an old raider?


Just as a note, all players are considered and there is no blanket policy of ineligibility. The judges are the ones that examine all factors and make the decisions each year.

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Jakker wrote:
As I have done the previous two years, I'll be removing myself from consideration for induction due to my involvement. Vapid did provide an excellent example of a nomination and I appreciate the thought.

Could you please stop being a judge for the Hall of Fame one year so we can induct you already? :P


Technically, I was not a judge the last two years :P But since I am the one picking them and such, it seems a bit biased. :P
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun May 28, 2017 2:18 pm

I nominate Benevolent Thomas. I can't think of anyone whose raiding, or even just the possibility of raiding, have caused more controversy.

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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Sun May 28, 2017 2:27 pm

I'm insulted Yuno. I've been a raider since 2011. :P

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Postby Jakker » Sun May 28, 2017 2:30 pm

This was a nomination made by NES two years ago, but came after the judges were voting so wasn't properly examined.

Nominee: Belgium Fighters

"He originally joined Equilism when it was Defender, and then he joined DEN to learn about raiding, and decided to stick. He was the Field Marshal following the destruction of the DEN by Grippsholm, and he made a monumental effort to get back to basics and revive the org. Which he broadly speaking did.

Later on he served in a few minor raiding orgs.

And then he served as Commander of the TNIAF, and Commander of SRATO, overseeing some of our biggest missions, and injecting a raideresque professionalism into the forces. He was unmatched by any other Commander I've worked with other than OnderKelkia."
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Postby Melqart » Sun May 28, 2017 2:31 pm

Jakker wrote:
Melqart wrote:Great list Yuno, but some are ineligible, for the predator thing. I'd say August deserves it. Wasn't kkight an old raider?


Just as a note, all players are considered and there is no blanket policy of ineligibility. The judges are the ones that examine all factors and make the decisions each year.

I was told people that got in trouble for predator aren't allowed by *coughs*Vandoosa*coughs*

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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Sun May 28, 2017 2:34 pm

Melqart wrote:
Jakker wrote:
Just as a note, all players are considered and there is no blanket policy of ineligibility. The judges are the ones that examine all factors and make the decisions each year.

I was told people that got in trouble for predator aren't allowed by *coughs*Vandoosa*coughs*


Jakker is telling you this, not sure how there is any way not to believe what he is saying. :P

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun May 28, 2017 2:57 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:Kawaii Village, Vandoosa, Ever-Wandering Souls, August, Altino, Rigel's Light, Maria, Derps/Pz4, Chingis, Tawks, Tom Vasentius (1 year HYDRA Director before he retired,) Kyorgia, Gibraltarica/Vapid_Vasentius ( He spent hours setting up raids of lots of targets) , Rai/Eclipse(I don't know much about this one, he did sleepers), I raided with Elindra once, Anera (LWU, retired), Satya Romefeller (retired(?) Leader of Hellenic), Knot, Owen, Vac, Karenus, Kleo(Ex-Firehelm), Don/George Mountbatten, and Gladio I guess.

You know Yuno, it's the Raiding Hall of Fame, not the Raiding Hall of "any random person I may have seen at update in the last year" :P
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Postby The Empire Of Jax » Sun May 28, 2017 3:53 pm

I nominate Naj of Slangar he is one BA mofo, he has raided numerous regions with The Order Of The Sword he has also co founded TOS and has been a member of ns for some time now, he deserves it.

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Postby Queen Yuno » Sun May 28, 2017 5:45 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Queen Yuno wrote:Kawaii Village, Vandoosa, Ever-Wandering Souls, August, Altino, Rigel's Light, Maria, Derps/Pz4, Chingis, Tawks, Tom Vasentius (1 year HYDRA Director before he retired,) Kyorgia, Gibraltarica/Vapid_Vasentius ( He spent hours setting up raids of lots of targets) , Rai/Eclipse(I don't know much about this one, he did sleepers), I raided with Elindra once, Anera (LWU, retired), Satya Romefeller (retired(?) Leader of Hellenic), Knot, Owen, Vac, Karenus, Kleo(Ex-Firehelm), Don/George Mountbatten, and Gladio I guess.

You know Yuno, it's the Raiding Hall of Fame, not the Raiding Hall of "any random person I may have seen at update in the last year" :P


I could write a history book on each one. If I were truly listing based on what you just described, I'd add Hired Contractor, Libertarem, Chron, Moneyness, Strat, Benja, and Atlae. But I'm not ^_^

These are people who have lots of accomplishments, who are active like everyday, and ppl I've worked alongside with for long enough that I can vouch for them being historybook-worthy.

(I could totally write one for fendas too but my specific details would be spotty.)
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Postby Shizensky » Sun May 28, 2017 5:55 pm

This may have been brought up in previous discussions, but is there a reason why DEN's Powell is not recognized yet? Franks may have been the loudest and, for many reasons, most notorious. However, the true legacy of DEN, before the many fractures leading up to and during Franks' time and the way DEN's memory was ripped to shreds by modern pretenders, was born in the Powell era. This was the last time a war against TITO really meant something and while that competition was fierce, even old school moralist hardliner Grub took a moment to publicly praise Powell once he was no longer in charge of DEN.
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Postby Jakker » Sun May 28, 2017 11:46 pm

Shizensky wrote:This may have been brought up in previous discussions, but is there a reason why DEN's Powell is not recognized yet? Franks may have been the loudest and, for many reasons, most notorious. However, the true legacy of DEN, before the many fractures leading up to and during Franks' time and the way DEN's memory was ripped to shreds by modern pretenders, was born in the Powell era. This was the last time a war against TITO really meant something and while that competition was fierce, even old school moralist hardliner Grub took a moment to publicly praise Powell once he was no longer in charge of DEN.


General Powell is definitely a good one to consider. To add, he "helped organize the NS Global Summit on Raiderplay and Defensive Operations during the summer of 2004---the first ever large-scale conference between raiders and defenders. We worked closely with both raider and defender alliances during this conference, and very nearly created a new set of rules for raiderplay in NS."

Also, he coined the phrase, "fenda." "During a late-night conversation with an old NS friend, I mentioned my concern over the growing hostility between the raider and defender groups. I stated that many defenders are really "offenders." This became "O-fenders," and eventually "fendas" for short. It is a way to distinguish honorable defenders from those who raid under the guise of being defenders."
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon May 29, 2017 7:03 am

Jakker wrote:General Powell is definitely a good one to consider. To add, he "helped organize the NS Global Summit on Raiderplay and Defensive Operations during the summer of 1994

...bloody hell. NationStates wasn't created until 2002, yet this guy organised an R/D conference in the nineties?
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