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2017 Class

Postby Jakker » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:27 pm

Thank you to the judges for all of their efforts in selecting this year's class. Congrats to all!

Belgium Fighters: As a former DEN Field Marshal, Belgium Fighters, played a major role in revitalizing the raiding organization after defender infiltration in its leadership. Furthermore, he contributed significantly to the foundations of The New Inquisition’s military in 2008-2009. Through his efforts in creating training materials and developing procedures, The New Inquisition Armed Forces (TNIAF) and later The United Imperial Armed Forces (UIAF) became professional military organizations that contributed to raiding for years.

General Powell: General Powell founded DEN, one of the most recognized raiding organization in NS history. He also laid the foundations for several aspects of raiding culture. He coined the phrase, “fenda,” which is often used to reference defenders. He advocated for the use of “raider” rather than “invader.” Additionally, through many of his efforts including the 2004 NationStates Global Summit on Raiderplay and Defensive Operations, an event in which he co-host and organized, General Powell played an instrumental role in helping to legitimize raiding among the eyes of others.

Nevadar: Gatesville was regarded as one of the most influential regions in NS for years, and this was largely due to Nevadar. She was a master of old raider methods like manipulation and networking, which became vital in her involvement of several feeder operations over the years. Most recently, her tactics were on full display during the 2013 coup of Osiris. Her leadership behind the scenes led to accomplishments that all raiders would revere.

Tramiar: Tramiar was involved in The Blades of Conquest and later, The Black Hawks during a decade-long raiding career. During a time when all region recruitment was done manually, she was a model of persistence with thousands upon thousands of telegrams sent over years. Furthermore, Tramiar played during a time in which there was not much interaction between raiders and other players, especially defenders. She played a fairly unique social game of genuine interaction with others outside of raiding, which showed raiders in a more positive light and is seen far more far today.
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Postby Raionitu » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:22 pm

Congratulations to all who were inducted!
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:23 pm

All very well-earned. :)
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Postby DJ Raid » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:26 pm

I enjoyed reading these bits of history. Thanks for doing this Jakker! Keep up the good work.
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Postby Jakker » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:25 am

DJ Raid wrote:I enjoyed reading these bits of history. Thanks for doing this Jakker! Keep up the good work.


Thanks man. There have been some many great players that have contributed significantly to raiding and the HoF serves to recognize them. It is a good reminder of all the time and effort put in over the years to get raiding to where we are today.
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Postby Onderkelkia » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:49 am

Congratulations to those inducted.
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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:15 pm

Congratulations to this years inductees. :)

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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:59 am

Hello. I was wondering if that discussion about Gest ever amounted to anything, or if you thought you successfully pushed it back under the carpet.

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Postby Jakker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:23 am

Consular wrote:Hello. I was wondering if that discussion about Gest ever amounted to anything, or if you thought you successfully pushed it back under the carpet.


There hasn't been further progress on reaching out to others just yet. Once my retirement is completed, that will open things up a bit. There is no desire to push it under anything. Things will happen thoroughly. I just can't speak to a specific timeline. Thanks for the accountability though.
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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:25 am

I think you've had long enough really. At this point I beleive the delay stems in a reluctance on your part to actually do anything. And, honestly, I'm seeing that as an endorsement of Gest's actions. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one either. Do you approve of cheating, Jakker? Does The Black Hawks approve of cheating?

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Postby Jakker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:30 am

Consular wrote:I think you've had long enough really. At this point I beleive the delay stems in a reluctance on your part to actually do anything. And, honestly, I'm seeing that as an endorsement of Gest's actions. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one either. Do you approve of cheating, Jakker? Does The Black Hawks approve of cheating?


I mean you're allowed to think what you want. None of what you said is true. The decision will be made when I have the time and energy to reach out to others and discuss the matter. That's really all there is to it.
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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:39 am

Yes that's great but your actions, or lack thereof, indicate the answer to my questions is yes you do.

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Postby Jakker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:45 am

Consular wrote:Yes that's great but your actions, or lack thereof, indicate the answer to my questions is yes you do.


The lack of action indicates that I just haven't had time and energy for it. :P
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:48 am

The decision should have already been made a month ago.
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Postby Jakker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:55 am

Ridersyl wrote:The decision should have already been made a month ago.


The decision will be made when it's made. I understand that timeliness is ideal and I just haven't had the ability to flesh out the approach and reach out to people. So when that does happen, you all will be the first to know.
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Postby Consular » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:29 am

You've said that so many times now. You're making this so much more complicated than it is and the stalling isn't very convincing anymore.

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Postby Jakker » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:35 am

Consular wrote:You've said that so many times now. You're making this so much more complicated than it is and the stalling isn't very convincing anymore.


I recognize that I am indirectly making it more complicated and if I could have, I would have dealt with it sooner. :P I just haven't had the time and energy.
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Postby The Sygian » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:37 am

How about we lay off Jakker a bit? The dude has said he doesn't have the time at the moment. If anyone was going to "endorse" Gest's actions, it sure as hell wouldn't be Jakker.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:46 am

Jakker wrote:I recognize that I am indirectly making it more complicated


Good enough for me. :p
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:48 am

I'm not thrilled the matter hasn't been resolved either, but if Jakker says he hasn't had time, he hasn't had time. He's not known for making excuses. If he wanted to do nothing about it he would just say nothing is going to be done about it and Gest is going to remain on the Hall of Fame.

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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:56 am

This is my first time seeing this, congrats to those who made it here. Its not an path or a fun one all the times. But respect to them. Even ive my opinions of raiding are what they are, hall of fames are fun.

Also, if one doesnt have time, griping about things even if we dont like it we should respect it. Jakker isnt at least to my knowledge a dirty player when most in the organization dont really take to me, he takes the time to ask questions and get to know me. In this game thats respectable.

And from what i know of gest. Its a can of worms so dragging his feet is understandable, is that bad sure but hey. I wouldn't wanna deal with the headache and if you were honest with yourself you really wouldn't either.
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Postby Tramiar » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:44 pm

Consular wrote:I think you've had long enough really. At this point I beleive the delay stems in a reluctance on your part to actually do anything. And, honestly, I'm seeing that as an endorsement of Gest's actions. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one either. Do you approve of cheating, Jakker? Does The Black Hawks approve of cheating?

It amuses me that anyone could say anything like that about Jakker. He is one of the most fair people I've met. Maybe you should meet him sometime. Judging from your badgering posts, you could use a little of his class. That said, knowing him, he will make a very thorough decision. That takes time. Especially if he has other stuff going on.

In other news, I got inducted. Yay!
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Postby Consular » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:03 pm

Well I'm glad I've amused you. Jakker's apparent defence of Gest, both here and in the attempt to remove his badge in the Security Council, amuses me.

If it's unclassy to be disappointed in the lack of any progress whatsoever on this issue, then I suppose I'm being unclassy yes.

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