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Pro-Life International: Defending Life on NationStates

Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:41 pm



What is Pro-Life International
Pro-Life International is a multi regional alliance to promote, militarily and diplomatically, the pro-life cause on NationStatea. We are proud to say that PLI is rising to prominence with large regions joining our Diplomatic and Military Leagues. The member regions are as follows:
-Catholic
-Right to Life
-The League of Conservative Nations
-International Republican Union
-Coalition of Catholic States
-League of Christian Nations
How do I join?
Membership is only open to regions at this point. If you represent a region who would like to join, telegram me or The rouge Christmas state for more information.

Note: This topic will be used for us to update NS on our actions. Please send all your arguments about abortion to our Discord server. We'd love to have you.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:24 pm

Third, it seeks to advance the pro-life cause on NationStates through military gameplay. This might include raids on warzones, participation in missions with allies, and other military actions.

Now that's going to be interesting to watch. I can already see the red text and annoyed mods as the GP snarkies take apart the reports.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:06 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Third, it seeks to advance the pro-life cause on NationStates through military gameplay. This might include raids on warzones, participation in missions with allies, and other military actions.

Now that's going to be interesting to watch. I can already see the red text and annoyed mods as the GP snarkies take apart the reports.

At least it's a new reason to take to Gameplay. I'm bored of the typical R/D and L/R bullshittery.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:10 pm

This should be an interesting new R/D campaign.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:23 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Third, it seeks to advance the pro-life cause on NationStates through military gameplay. This might include raids on warzones, participation in missions with allies, and other military actions.

Now that's going to be interesting to watch. I can already see the red text and annoyed mods as the GP snarkies take apart the reports.

Meh, as long as everybody follows the site rules, I couldn't care less.
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Postby Shizensky » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:50 pm

If your organization chooses to take military action against a region, and a Defender organization intervenes, does your organization then consider the defending organization an enemy of the pro-life movement, a pro-choice supporter, or in an otherwise adversarial agent to PLI?
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:20 pm

Shizensky wrote:If your organization chooses to take military action against a region, and a Defender organization intervenes, does your organization then consider the defending organization an enemy of the pro-life movement, a pro-choice supporter, or in an otherwise adversarial agent to PLI?

It need not be that way necessarily, no

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:34 pm

I look forward to making a few pro-choice puppets just for going against you guys.
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Postby Kitzerland » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:50 am

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Postby Theodosiya » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 am

IS this serious or not? Also, what level of pro-life? Absolute or depend on case?
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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 am

Theodosiya wrote:IS this serious or not? Also, what level of pro-life? Absolute or depend on case?

Members are permitted to allow abortions in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the life of the mother. Of course this is serious, it's been around since 2013

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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:58 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:I look forward to making a few pro-choice puppets just for going against you guys.

Good luck

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Postby Solorni » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:51 am

I hope that the regions that believe in woman's rights oppose this :)
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:47 am

Solorni wrote:I hope that the regions that believe in woman's rights oppose this :)


Which woman's rights?
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Postby Conservative Values » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:48 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Solorni wrote:I hope that the regions that believe in woman's rights oppose this :)


Which woman's rights?

That one where they get to choose what happens with other people's bodies.

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Postby Mousebumples » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:59 am

Conservative Values wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
Which woman's rights?

That one where they get to choose what happens with other people's bodies.

I don't want to speak for Rach, but I'm mostly concerned about people trying to tell me what I can do with my body - speaking as a female player here, of course.
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Postby Conservative Values » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:17 pm

Mousebumples wrote:
Conservative Values wrote:That one where they get to choose what happens with other people's bodies.

I don't want to speak for Rach, but I'm mostly concerned about people trying to tell me what I can do with my body - speaking as a female player here, of course.

Speaking as a pro-life player, I've never personally - at least to my knowledge - met an American or European who would not agree a woman should be in control of her body. (With the exception of euthanasia, and other issues that cut equally at both genders.) No one disagrees women should have bodily sovereignty to the same extent as men - the disagreement is whether an unborn child is a body part or something separate. And then at what point that distinction begins.

Arguing a pro-lifer is trying to control someone else's body is at best a strawman. And often is a tactic to avoid discourse with the other side entirely, choosing instead to focus on convincing the half of the population that already agrees with the speaker that the other half of the population are bad people, threats, or both.

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Postby The Stalker » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:43 pm

Well you know the main reason abortion become legal again was because people kept having them, but because it was illegal it was extremely unsafe for the mother resulting in a high mortality rate. Ever hear of coat hanger reference, where you think that comes from? Ultimately a Pro-life policy results in more deaths, regardless if you consider a fetus as a living being or not.

Same reason the drug war failed, and why we shouldn't ban guns, your just gonna end up with an unsafe black market.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:57 pm

Guys, let's keep the NSG abortion debate to NSG, and try to keep the Gameplay focus on the gameplay elements.
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Postby Shizensky » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:06 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Solorni wrote:I hope that the regions that believe in woman's rights oppose this :)


Which woman's rights?

The real crime is the number of heads this appears to have whooshed right over.
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Postby Conservative Values » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:59 pm

Shizensky wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
Which woman's rights?

The real crime is the number of heads this appears to have whooshed right over.

The grammatical mistake was not missed.

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Postby Galiantus VII » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:05 pm

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Postby Vincent Drake » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:15 pm

Thanks to a certain DoS player, all Drake nations with anything to do with either side of this will be GHRd on sight. It really isn't funny anymore.
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