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Mugwop
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Postby Mugwop » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:22 pm

These are my mation's trend stats:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=mugwop/detail=trend
Civil Rights: 4
Economic Freedom: 0
Political Freedom: 0

I am trying to get Civil Rights to 0. It's been stuck on 4 for a while now, no matter what asinine and horrific ways I answer my issues. Is there a way to drop it? Did I hit some sort of limit? Is there anyone out there with all 0's trend?

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Chun Nan
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Founded: Oct 12, 2016
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Postby Chun Nan » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:33 pm

Civil Rights doesn't drop with just a couple of issues, you'll need to do a handful of issues to drop your civil rights to outlawed. And the issues primarily need to relate to civil rights , such as Ex: forcing parents to choose their child's names from a selected list by your government. (reference to real issue)

Forgetting what I said, issues you may have encountered. The options given to you probably don't effect civil rights :idea:
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Mugwop
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Postby Mugwop » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:29 pm

Chun Nan wrote:Civil Rights doesn't drop with just a couple of issues, you'll need to do a handful of issues to drop your civil rights to outlawed. And the issues primarily need to relate to civil rights , such as Ex: forcing parents to choose their child's names from a selected list by your government. (reference to real issue)

Forgetting what I said, issues you may have encountered. The options given to you probably don't effect civil rights :idea:


Oh I understand that, that is how I slowly but surely, managed to drop my civil rights to 4, but it just doesn't seem to budge now. For at least 50 issues now, it's been stuck on 4. I'm starting to think that it's impossible to have all the trends be at 0. Some sort of coded limit?

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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:37 am

Mugwop wrote:
Chun Nan wrote:Civil Rights doesn't drop with just a couple of issues, you'll need to do a handful of issues to drop your civil rights to outlawed. And the issues primarily need to relate to civil rights , such as Ex: forcing parents to choose their child's names from a selected list by your government. (reference to real issue)

Forgetting what I said, issues you may have encountered. The options given to you probably don't effect civil rights :idea:


Oh I understand that, that is how I slowly but surely, managed to drop my civil rights to 4, but it just doesn't seem to budge now. For at least 50 issues now, it's been stuck on 4. I'm starting to think that it's impossible to have all the trends be at 0. Some sort of coded limit?


I created a new nation to test that theory, and got all three categories at 3 to start. Answered my starting issues, and dropped at least one of them to 2. So, no, there's no coded limit. Apparently you're just going to have to work for it.
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Mugwop
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Postby Mugwop » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:29 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Mugwop wrote:
Oh I understand that, that is how I slowly but surely, managed to drop my civil rights to 4, but it just doesn't seem to budge now. For at least 50 issues now, it's been stuck on 4. I'm starting to think that it's impossible to have all the trends be at 0. Some sort of coded limit?


I created a new nation to test that theory, and got all three categories at 3 to start. Answered my starting issues, and dropped at least one of them to 2. So, no, there's no coded limit. Apparently you're just going to have to work for it.


No I am aware that the limit for Civil Rights itself isn't 4. I too when started the nation, the civil rights was 3, but so were political freedoms and economy. I am thinking that there is some sort of limit on the average of all trends, and right now my political freedom and economy are both at 0. If that's true, the only way for me now to lower civil rights, is to increase either economy or political freedom, because I can never remember ever seeing a nation with all 0,0,0 trends.

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Phydios
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Postby Phydios » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:49 am

Mugwop wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
I created a new nation to test that theory, and got all three categories at 3 to start. Answered my starting issues, and dropped at least one of them to 2. So, no, there's no coded limit. Apparently you're just going to have to work for it.


No I am aware that the limit for Civil Rights itself isn't 4. I too when started the nation, the civil rights was 3, but so were political freedoms and economy. I am thinking that there is some sort of limit on the average of all trends, and right now my political freedom and economy are both at 0. If that's true, the only way for me now to lower civil rights, is to increase either economy or political freedom, because I can never remember ever seeing a nation with all 0,0,0 trends.

You are simply incorrect. It is very possible - just difficult. A Region Embassy Assist
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Mugwop
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Postby Mugwop » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:31 pm

Phydios wrote:
Mugwop wrote:
No I am aware that the limit for Civil Rights itself isn't 4. I too when started the nation, the civil rights was 3, but so were political freedoms and economy. I am thinking that there is some sort of limit on the average of all trends, and right now my political freedom and economy are both at 0. If that's true, the only way for me now to lower civil rights, is to increase either economy or political freedom, because I can never remember ever seeing a nation with all 0,0,0 trends.

You are simply incorrect. It is very possible - just difficult. A Region Embassy Assist


Oh WOW, then I guess the limit is not a number, it's just that the effect of the issues must drastically slow do near the extreme of a trend (i.e: if you have trend of 50 and you answer the issue in a way that drop it down to 40, then if you originally had a trend of 12 for example, then the trend only drop by few numbers)

Take the Harry Potter issue, it's very famous but apparently I just got it: "6 hours ago: Following new legislation in Mugwop, Harry Potter books are banned." Banning them is typically guaranteed to drop down your civil rights, but in my case it made no difference in trends... however, it also did not show a change in civil rights in the "analysis page" after I answered the issue.

Hmmm, I guess I gotta keep answering issues in a horrific manner and hoping for a drop.

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Leutria
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Postby Leutria » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:02 pm

You get a little more detail on this page as well. We can see you are actually at 4.31 for civil rights, which is not the lowest you have been (March 12th you were 3.62, and back in October you were a 3).

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Mugwop
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Postby Mugwop » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm

Leutria wrote:You get a little more detail on this page as well. We can see you are actually at 4.31 for civil rights, which is not the lowest you have been (March 12th you were 3.62, and back in October you were a 3).

Oh thank you for providing this. I had no idea this functionality exists. This should shed an even better light on the matter. :clap:

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Solavenia
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Founded: Oct 06, 2021
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Postby Solavenia » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:47 am

You should try something like kick the one in your party that don't listen to you.

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Solavenia
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Postby Solavenia » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:49 am

but why u want to destroy your nation?huh :blink:


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