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Strategoi
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Postby Strategoi » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:22 am

RiderSyl wrote: "Let them conduct operations or else you're legitimizing them!" is a cute ploy, but no. They don't get a free pass during update.

The only way you can remain on that lofted platform of yours is if you ignore their actions completely.

But I can see your point. If all their operations can be quashed at first sight, that'd be neat. But when you're caught red-faced like in this instance and in future instances, the least you're doing is galvanizing loyal followers more and granting them that taste of victory that keeps militaries strong. Nazi regions encounter this, but their losing record will always be tremendously greater.

It's a high-risk low-reward dilemma, and I certainly can't tell you how to go about doing things. It's just something worth remarking about the hypocrisy of "delegitimization".

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Postby Neop » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:29 am

Strategoi wrote:Nazi regions encounter this, but their losing record will always be tremendously greater.


Odd way to talk about yourselves.

The fact that you all are so quick to go back to the R/D rivalry schtick without making any meaningful changes should be enough to prove that you’re an irredeemable bunch. I only expect many more scandals to come from you all.
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Postby Strategoi » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:43 am

Neop wrote:
Strategoi wrote:Nazi regions encounter this, but their losing record will always be tremendously greater.


Odd way to talk about yourselves.

If you read things in context, perhaps you'll find fewer things that are odd in life. I wasn't the one to make this comparison, but it's logical for me to explain why it is similar and why it is different.

Neop wrote:The fact that you all are so quick to go back to the R/D rivalry schtick

Again, it takes two to tango.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:48 am

RiderSyl wrote:"Let them conduct operations or else you're legitimizing them!" is a cute ploy, but no. They don't get a free pass during update.

So much this.

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Postby Maksao » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:51 am

Posting in the thread that sure will show them

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:07 am

Strategoi wrote:
Neop wrote:
Odd way to talk about yourselves.

If you read things in context, perhaps you'll find fewer things that are odd in life. I wasn't the one to make this comparison, but it's logical for me to explain why it is similar and why it is different.


Reality is what made the comparison. You're part of a blacklisted region. Nazi regions are automatically blacklisted. Thus, you're on a list with Nazi regions. That's just a fact. I'd call it unfortunate that you have to try to explain what separates yourselves from Nazi regions, but it's not really unfortunate considering what TI and TRE have done.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 am

what a shock, brocialists and transphobia going hand in hand
     
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:10 am

Caelapes wrote:what a shock, brocialists and transphobia going hand in hand

The second-in-command of TRE is a hardcore Libertarian.

Not sure what your commentary on that will be. Don't mind the popping sound. That's not popcorn or anything.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:50 am

RiderSyl wrote:The Roman Empire has already been delegitimized. "Let them conduct operations or else you're legitimizing them!" is a cute ploy, but no. They don't get a free pass during update.
The Invaders were already blacklisted for other reasons, but by standing up for The Roman Empire, you guys are really crossing a line you can't come back from.
Honestly, USSD and namely Vetelo need to think long and hard about this grouping. There is a lot he and his region are seen unfavorably for, but I know he's smart enough to see this is a road he shouldn't travel down. It's just a matter of choice.

Not sure if you've just missed it or what, but Attero/Vetelo is honestly more blacklisted than either TI or TRE.
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Postby Syberis » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:20 am

I'm a terrible moderate armchair RP fenda raider imperial userite feederite sinkerite with cheese featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series, and I can say outright that any org that works with USSD at this point either doesn't know better than to trust Atte or has no better options.

TRE and TI are just widely disliked by like... Everyone, after recent behavior in the case of TRE and a pattern of behavior in the case of TI. At the very least, these orgs do us a solid favor and remain stubbornly unlikeable because they haven't realized you can be the bad guys without actually crossing a certain line.

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Postby Revall » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm

Great report as usual :clap:
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:14 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:Not sure if you've just missed it or what, but Attero/Vetelo is honestly more blacklisted than either TI or TRE.


Did not know that.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:16 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Not sure if you've just missed it or what, but Attero/Vetelo is honestly more blacklisted than either TI or TRE.


Did not know that.


Yeah, a lot of people are against him.
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Postby Ente Ente » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:49 am

Glory to the Roman Empire

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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:49 am

Ente Ente wrote:Glory to the Roman Empire

Says the raider who flies the flag of... the Roman Empire. I know, right?
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Postby Ente Ente » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:50 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Ente Ente wrote:Glory to the Roman Empire

Says the raider who flies the flag of... the Roman Empire. I know, right?

Well of course.
I could write it with my main, but that would pretty much do the same, so well.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:12 am

Ente Ente wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Says the raider who flies the flag of... the Roman Empire. I know, right?

Well of course.
I could write it with my main, but that would pretty much do the same, so well.

Surely you're not afraid of showing your main due to the content that TRE is associated with, and thus you would be associated with, right? :)
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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:19 am

Ente Ente wrote:Glory to the Roman Bigot Empire


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Postby Chelvo » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:20 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Ente Ente wrote:Well of course.
I could write it with my main, but that would pretty much do the same, so well.

Surely you're not afraid of showing your main due to the content that TRE is associated with, and thus you would be associated with, right? :)

Not really, lil' Timmy. I was just too lazy before to change accounts.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:20 am

Revall wrote:Great report as usual :clap:

Great Report? Great Report..!

I'll tell you what a great report is. One that doesn't continuously flash the names of abusive players who strangely haven't resigned from your tainted org.
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Postby Chelvo » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:27 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Ente Ente wrote:Glory to the Roman Bigot Empire


FIFY

If you try to bait me, at least write "FTFY" correctly.
Seriously, that's low.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:29 am

Chelvo wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Surely you're not afraid of showing your main due to the content that TRE is associated with, and thus you would be associated with, right? :)

Not really, lil' Timmy. I was just too lazy before to change accounts.

Splendid.

It's good to know what people are consciously choosing to remain in TRE despite seeing the logs; it really helps show what kind of people they are and what sort of values they have.
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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:32 am

Chelvo wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
FIFY

If you try to bait me, at least write "FTFY" correctly.
Seriously, that's low.

Reports of baiting go in moderation
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Postby Vincent Drake » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:36 am

Chelvo wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
FIFY

If you try to bait me, at least write "FTFY" correctly.
Seriously, that's low.


FIFY and FTFY are equally valid. What's actually "low" is staying in an org despite awareness of the awful, hateful things its leadership really believes.
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Postby Syberis » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:21 am

Vincent Drake wrote:
Chelvo wrote:If you try to bait me, at least write "FTFY" correctly.
Seriously, that's low.


FIFY and FTFY are equally valid. What's actually "low" is staying in an org despite awareness of the awful, hateful things its leadership really believes.


Hey, it helps respectable orgs keep an easy list of people never to work with or interact with by just listing regions, instead of listing each of them individually.

If they moved, it would make things so much more difficult.

Also, FIFY = Fixed It For Ya. Sheesh
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