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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon May 29, 2017 12:54 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Because it has mostly been an inactive morass of a region? Probably?"

Seems you need to keep guessing.
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 12:59 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Because it has mostly been an inactive morass of a region? Probably?"

Seems you need to keep guessing.

Whatever reason it may be, including "we don't care" from the Wardens, just goes to show that TGW is not your model defender region who defends all without conditions. Nope! To be defended by TGW, you must go through Terms and Conditions needed for defendability. Just like any other company, TGW has the freedom to not defend your region nor is it beholden to any one region, and therefore is not the unbiased, peace-spreading defender.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 29, 2017 1:00 am

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'we'

Who are you pretending to speak for? :lol:


Probably all the puppets that he claims aren't him.


I was honestly thinking that. :hug:
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 1:01 am

Ridersyl wrote:
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Probably all the puppets that he claims aren't him.


I was honestly thinking that. :hug:

I am honestly not sure why you just started to attack my posts all of a sudden starting a few days ago.

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Postby Altmoras » Mon May 29, 2017 1:08 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
I was honestly thinking that. :hug:

I am honestly not sure why you just started to attack my posts all of a sudden starting a few days ago.


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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 1:09 am

Altmoras wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:I am honestly not sure why you just started to attack my posts all of a sudden starting a few days ago.


Sometimes a man just reaches his limit and can't take anymore.

Well, you'll have to deal with me for a long time, unless you spend time off the forums. Good luck.

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Postby Altmoras » Mon May 29, 2017 1:19 am

Ridersyl wrote:
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Probably all the puppets that he claims aren't him.


I was honestly thinking that. :hug:


Great minds ;)
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 1:21 am

Altmoras wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
I was honestly thinking that. :hug:


Great minds ;)

Great minds? Or just snarky, angry minds, who both hate me?

I don't believe there is a difference in this case.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon May 29, 2017 1:45 am

I'm going to quote this post to remind folks why I actually posted here tonight, rather than to deal with our latest GP "know it all"

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Hey, this is not a test. This is rock and roll. Time to rock it from the Warzones to Spear Danes.

On this morning's broadcast, we've got some exciting news for all you freedom fighters, darkspawn bashers, and fun lovers. Hawks, man, they really tried to go big this time. Got a whole group together, all their darkspawn friends, and they really went for it. Messy trigger, lots of untrained misses, but they got it. Damn it, they got it. Those blight-ridden fiends pushed the envelope and just got it. They must've thought they had it, they must have. However, we're not keen to give darkspawn their fun, here on Radio Warden. We're all about ruining their fun and having a good time doing it, and boy did we do it. I mean, damn, we really showed those fiends today who's boss.

It was a simple mission, really. Seventeen Wardens took off in the bird for the LZ, guns loaded and triggers ready.

[radio interference]

I'm sorry folks, I was mistaken. Fifteen Wardens took off in the bird for the LZ, with First Warden Roavin still asleep and Daddy Benevolent Thomas lost in the BBQ Sauce. Nonetheless, fifteen wardens took off for the LZ, joined by about thirty of their closest friends. Flying low, the defensive forces came in hard and fast on the Monarchist Entente, blasting darkspawn positions apart with ease. Although one bird lagged behind and arrived late, everyone still succeeded in landing. After landing and clearing a safe zone, Wardens set up a DMZ and began pushing out. Assisted by all their allies, Darkspawn positions were easily blown apart.

Darkie sure didn't see this coming, that's for sure. Checking the gunners nest for the enemy positions, Raid Leader Souls didn't get a single shot off at our troops rolling in. No casualties reported for us, with all of the Darkspawn confirmed to have been exterminated with extreme prejudice. Not leave the Darkspawn without a parting gift though, Wardens rained down some liquid fire on what was left of the enemy positions, incinerating their hopes and dreams. Maybe next time, Darkspawn.

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I'm going to quote this post to remind folks why I actually posted here tonight, rather than to deal with our latest GP "know it all"
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 1:48 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:I'm going to quote this post to remind folks why I actually posted here tonight, rather than to deal with our latest GP "know it all"

I don't "know it all," and furthermore, the above reposting of the post shows that TGW have trouble keeping their defending posts public, especially as being defenders with "Terms and Conditions," they don't defend the region Eireann, which has been occupied for 12+ days, but instead defend regions that have just been occupied, like The Entente. This furthermore goes to show that NS virtually has no defenders that will actually defend all regions being raided or invaded, which is what defending technically should be, and instead has a bunch of terms and conditions that must be followed for defense.
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Postby Red Dusk » Mon May 29, 2017 1:52 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:I'm going to quote this post to remind folks why I actually posted here tonight, rather than to deal with our latest GP "know it all"

I don't "know it all," and furthermore, the above reposting of the post shows that TGW have trouble keeping their defending posts public, especially as being defenders with "Terms and Conditions," they don't defend the region Eireann, which has been occupied for 12+ days, but instead defend regions that have just been occupied, like The Entente. This furthermore goes to show that NS virtually has no defenders that will actually defend all regions being raided or invaded, which is what defending technically should be, and instead has a bunch of terms and conditions that must be followed for defense.

Lol k

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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 29, 2017 1:55 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:<white noise>


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Postby Chingis » Mon May 29, 2017 1:56 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:I'm going to quote this post to remind folks why I actually posted here tonight, rather than to deal with our latest GP "know it all"

I don't "know it all," and furthermore, the above reposting of the post shows that TGW have trouble keeping their defending posts public, especially as being defenders with "Terms and Conditions," they don't defend the region Eireann, which has been occupied for 12+ days, but instead defend regions that have just been occupied, like The Entente. This furthermore goes to show that NS virtually has no defenders that will actually defend all regions being raided or invaded, which is what defending technically should be, and instead has a bunch of terms and conditions that must be followed for defense.


Ah! So...

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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 1:57 am

Red Dusk wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:I don't "know it all," and furthermore, the above reposting of the post shows that TGW have trouble keeping their defending posts public, especially as being defenders with "Terms and Conditions," they don't defend the region Eireann, which has been occupied for 12+ days, but instead defend regions that have just been occupied, like The Entente. This furthermore goes to show that NS virtually has no defenders that will actually defend all regions being raided or invaded, which is what defending technically should be, and instead has a bunch of terms and conditions that must be followed for defense.

Lol k

If indifference to "defending with terms and conditions" like this keeps going on, defending won't mean a thing in the future - it'd more be like ideological raiding/defending, which has its bunch of terms and conditions bundled with the package.

If TGW is going to have Terms and Conditions like it is right now, at least they could call themselves ideological defenders. Yes, raiding is an ideology, though it may be a poor example of one.
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Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:<white noise>


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Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:I don't "know it all," and furthermore, the above reposting of the post shows that TGW have trouble keeping their defending posts public, especially as being defenders with "Terms and Conditions," they don't defend the region Eireann, which has been occupied for 12+ days, but instead defend regions that have just been occupied, like The Entente. This furthermore goes to show that NS virtually has no defenders that will actually defend all regions being raided or invaded, which is what defending technically should be, and instead has a bunch of terms and conditions that must be followed for defense.


Ah! So...

Who are you?

I criticize. Probably not of your interest. Infamous founder of DankMemes.
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Postby Roavin » Mon May 29, 2017 1:59 am

Cool. I would like a detailed explanation why Eireann does not meet these Terms and Conditions. I'd also like to know what these Terms and Conditions are, because I'm literally the big dude at the top in TGW and I don't know about them. I expect a full report, you have until friday.

While you're busy doing that instead of perpetually annoying GP, I'll point to this, the mention of Europeia here, as well as the pre-liberation happenings here, and you should (if you know half as much about gameplay as you claim) know exactly why this was the target, and not Eireann.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon May 29, 2017 2:01 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:I never give up on arguments until I have proven my case or if my case is improvable.

My, it might be time to give up then.

Alternatively, I await your report by Friday.
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Postby Chingis » Mon May 29, 2017 2:03 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:DankMemes


Who?
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 2:04 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:A lot of things aren't what they seem, dear.

The way you've phrased it, it looks like Eireann and The Entente are equally hard to take down: they have the same number of endos.

I understand that there is the massive amount of Influence in Eireann, as well as the officers, that need to be overcome rather than in a just-established occupation like The Entente, but shouldn't a Liberation of Eireann been in the works for a while now?

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Because it has mostly been an inactive morass of a region? Probably?"

Seems you need to keep guessing.

Based on these posts, and Altmoras' ignorance of my post about inactivity "inactive morass", and Tim-Opolis' ignorance of my post concerning the Influence and officers in Eireann, I thought you Wardens had other reasons for not invading Eireann. In the end, it appears that I was right all along, and that I just wasn't listened to.

These Terms and Conditions are somewhat like the below:
-TGW will not defend fascist regions.
-TGW will not defend Nazi regions.
-TGW will not defend regions founded by La Navasse.
-TGW will not defend regions even if their founders don't know GP and misunderstand TGW's intention.
-TGW will not defend regions invaded by their allies.
-TGW will not defend raider regions.
-TGW will not defend invader regions.
-TGW will not defend anti-TGW regions.
-TGW will not defend in any other cases when it feels like it.
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Postby Roavin » Mon May 29, 2017 2:06 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Based on these posts, and Altmoras' ignorance of my post about inactivity "inactive morass", and Tim-Opolis' ignorance of my post concerning the Influence and officers in Eireann, I thought you Wardens had other reasons for not invading Eireann. In the end, it appears that I was right all along, and that I just wasn't listened to.


I'll just leave this here:

Roavin wrote:While you're busy doing that instead of perpetually annoying GP, I'll point to this, the mention of Europeia here, as well as the pre-liberation happenings here, and you should (if you know half as much about gameplay as you claim) know exactly why this was the target, and not Eireann.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 29, 2017 2:07 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:<snip>

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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Mon May 29, 2017 2:08 am

Roavin wrote:
Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Based on these posts, and Altmoras' ignorance of my post about inactivity "inactive morass", and Tim-Opolis' ignorance of my post concerning the Influence and officers in Eireann, I thought you Wardens had other reasons for not invading Eireann. In the end, it appears that I was right all along, and that I just wasn't listened to.


I'll just leave this here:

Roavin wrote:While you're busy doing that instead of perpetually annoying GP, I'll point to this, the mention of Europeia here, as well as the pre-liberation happenings here, and you should (if you know half as much about gameplay as you claim) know exactly why this was the target, and not Eireann.

Please read my edited post instead of ignoring as before.
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Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:<snip>

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Why are you uninterested now when you were interested before? I thought that you were thoroughly disagreeing with my posts.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon May 29, 2017 2:08 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:Based on these posts, and Altmoras' ignorance of my post about inactivity "inactive morass", and Tim-Opolis' ignorance of my post concerning the Influence and officers in Eireann, I thought you Wardens had other reasons for not invading Eireann. In the end, it appears that I was right all along, and that I just wasn't listened to.


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Postby Chingis » Mon May 29, 2017 2:10 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote: I thought you Wardens had other reasons for not invading Eireann.


I hear being a defender region is all it takes for not invading Eireann now. Crazy that.
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Postby Kurnugia » Mon May 29, 2017 2:11 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:
Roavin wrote:
I'll just leave this here:


Please read my edited post instead of ignoring as before.

*edits a post later than roavin posted it*
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 29, 2017 2:11 am

Vuori Kunin-Grrs wrote:-TGW will not defend regions even if their founders don't know GP and misunderstand TGW's intention.


I feel like this one is oddly specific for a reason...
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