The Grey Wardens: Warden-Lieutenant Eshialand

[Kurnugia]

Noice. Just thought it would be cool if we would use a bit of sabaton

[LollerLand]

TGW reports are getting more and more awesome!

[Fratatstan]

Frattastan RRA

I won't ask.

[Sygian II]

Okay okay, good report, and good work on the lib(s). Now we're even, eh? No more whining when we pile too hard!

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

Wow. That was like I was right there in the actions.

Congrats to TGW

[Sovreignry]

the ability of the Calgary Flames to do anything of note against fucking Anaheim of all teams,

Fight me.

[Escade Said Meow Meow Meow]

Entertaining reports, how else will TGW revolutionize r\d next

[Benevolent Thomas]

Its a shame that other invaders have monopolized the name "Predators" or we could have made a joke about sweeping the Black Hawks. Amazing report. It also has had a good effect in that hockey fans are coming out of the woodwork to discuss the playoffs in chats.

[Cresenthia]

-snipped all of the lies away-

Look, I did not solicit troops from fascist regions, or Nazi regions, nor did anyone else in Kaiserreich. I am sick and tired of people flat out lying about this. If you want to pick on Nazi regions, then go attack actual Nazis. Until then, get Kurnugia to stop blabbering about how he knows Kaiserreich is Nazi. He probably just trying to win points with the rebels he abandoned.

[Tim-Opolis]

-snipped all of the lies away-

Look, I did not solicit troops from fascist regions, or Nazi regions, nor did anyone else in Kaiserreich. I am sick and tired of people flat out lying about this. If you want to pick on Nazi regions, then go attack actual Nazis. Until then, get Kurnugia to stop blabbering about how he knows Kaiserreich is Nazi. He probably just trying to win points with the rebels he abandoned.

While I can assure you everyone's still pretty solid on the fact that you guys are fascist-aligned, we could always pick on you for being raiders instead if you like.

[Lord Dominator]

Good grop that was a funny report

[Cresenthia]

Look, I did not solicit troops from fascist regions, or Nazi regions, nor did anyone else in Kaiserreich. I am sick and tired of people flat out lying about this. If you want to pick on Nazi regions, then go attack actual Nazis. Until then, get Kurnugia to stop blabbering about how he knows Kaiserreich is Nazi. He probably just trying to win points with the rebels he abandoned.

While I can assure you everyone's still pretty solid on the fact that you guys are fascist-aligned, we could always pick on you for being raiders instead if you like.

Invaders. But go ahead. That's mostly true. Except for FE, where the tables were turned. We defended, you invaded. And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

[Tinhampton]

While I can assure you everyone's still pretty solid on the fact that you guys are fascist-aligned, we could always pick on you for being raiders instead if you like.

Invaders. But go ahead. That's mostly true. Except for FE, where the tables were turned. We defended, you invaded. And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

Recall also the incident involving Warzone Europe.

[Roavin]

And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

Recall also the incident involving Warzone Europe.

Yes, we call ourselves defenders, and with very very good reasons.

[Drop Your Pants]

Recall also the incident involving Warzone Europe.

Warzones have always been fair game. You want to claim the native ticket on them? I've spent more years in them than the majority of the nations in there and i'm not a native.

Cresenthia, get some new material. Your continuous complaining with the same 3 arguments while not even reading anyone else posts is getting annoying.

[Roavin]

Look, I did not solicit troops from fascist regions, or Nazi regions, nor did anyone else in Kaiserreich.

4/23/2017, 5:13:17 AM GMT+2: New Soviet Alliance endorsed Red Eye Racoon.
4/23/2017, 4:59:44 AM GMT+2: New Soviet Alliance relocated from Nazi Europa to Communists United Federation.
4/23/2017, 3:38:27 AM GMT+2: Bakrauf endorsed Red Eye Racoon.
4/23/2017, 3:38:08 AM GMT+2: Bakrauf relocated from Nazi Europa to Communists United Federation.
4/22/2017, 10:09:23 PM GMT+2: ZeppeliLand endorsed Red Eye Racoon.
4/22/2017, 10:09:13 PM GMT+2: ZeppeliLand relocated from Nazi Europa to Communists United Federation.

Just random that all of a sudden NE nations started piling in? Even better, ZeppeliLand got endorsed back, presumably as preparation to RO them:
4/23/2017, 6:28:38 AM GMT+2: Red Eye Racoon endorsed ZeppeliLand.
4/23/2017, 2:08:07 AM GMT+2: Copernisch Gardekorps endorsed ZeppeliLand.
4/23/2017, 12:29:52 AM GMT+2: Communist Removal Unit endorsed ZeppeliLand.

[Ikania]

[Cormactopia Prime]

And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

Defenders defend innocent regions against arbitrary invasion; that is what all defenders have in common.

Over the course of defending history, some defenders have not invaded any regions under any circumstances, and other defenders have engaged in limited invasion against certain regions when they have determined just cause exists for doing so. What separates these latter defenders from invaders is that they do not just arbitrarily invade innocent regions; when they invade, they have cause for doing so, and whether you agree with that cause or not, this makes them very different from invaders who will invade any region just because. These latter defenders have always been regarded as defenders, and frankly you have no standing to determine otherwise. Stop beating this particular dead horse and all the others while you're at it.

[Jakker]

And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

What separates these latter defenders from invaders is that they do not just arbitrarily invade innocent regions; when they invade, they have cause for doing so, and whether you agree with that cause or not, this makes them very different from invaders who will invade any region just because.

Pretty sure that this is how many regions, like LKE for example, function. Raiding with a cause may separate them from raiders, but doesn't really separate them from many regions who have never been regarded as defenders.

[Tim-Opolis]

While I can assure you everyone's still pretty solid on the fact that you guys are fascist-aligned, we could always pick on you for being raiders instead if you like.

Invaders. But go ahead. That's mostly true. Except for FE, where the tables were turned. We defended, you invaded. And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

Call us defenders or don't call us defenders, you really won't find us giving a damn. We'll target you, we'll defend innocent regions, and we'll sure as hell keep doing it.

Also, in regards to Femdom Empire I think you have the story a bit wrong. You piled, and then some of your members used an ejection script of dubious legality provided to them by a DOS player. That ain't defending by any definition. Learn your own operation's facts, pal. Feel free to keep associating yourself with the defensive efforts of Femdom Empire though, it's always nice to see you lining up in rank and file with other fascists like Nazi Europa.

[Cresenthia]

Invaders. But go ahead. That's mostly true. Except for FE, where the tables were turned. We defended, you invaded. And you call yourselves defenders, hmm.

Call us defenders or don't call us defenders, you really won't find us giving a damn. We'll target you, we'll defend innocent regions, and we'll sure as hell keep doing it.

Also, in regards to Femdom Empire I think you have the story a bit wrong. You piled, and then some of your members used an ejection script of dubious legality provided to them by a DOS player. That ain't defending by any definition. Learn your own operation's facts, pal. Feel free to keep associating yourself with the defensive efforts of Femdom Empire though, it's always nice to see you lining up in rank and file with other fascists like Nazi Europa.

There was no script. Those were only rumors, and there were even GHRs filed, which I believe confirm what I have said.

[RiderSyl]

There was no script. Those were only rumors, and there were even GHRs filed, which I believe confirm what I have said.

Even if anything you say is true, it coming from you means that nobody will believe it.

If you already know that, then by what you've done here, you've only damaged the reputation of those you verbally defended with every comment.

So that would mean that you've willingly and actively aided the enemies of KAISERREICH.

You can claim whatever negative thing you want here, but I'm just following logic.
Either you know what you're doing and betraying KAISERREICH, or you're stumbling over your words and you're a weakness, but still loyal to them.

Which one is it?

[Tim-Opolis]

Call us defenders or don't call us defenders, you really won't find us giving a damn. We'll target you, we'll defend innocent regions, and we'll sure as hell keep doing it.

Also, in regards to Femdom Empire I think you have the story a bit wrong. You piled, and then some of your members used an ejection script of dubious legality provided to them by a DOS player. That ain't defending by any definition. Learn your own operation's facts, pal. Feel free to keep associating yourself with the defensive efforts of Femdom Empire though, it's always nice to see you lining up in rank and file with other fascists like Nazi Europa.

There was no script. Those were only rumors, and there were even GHRs filed, which I believe confirm what I have said.

Jadny should have kept better council then, all those 'rumors' floating out of her High Command and into our ears.

[Cormactopia Prime]

What separates these latter defenders from invaders is that they do not just arbitrarily invade innocent regions; when they invade, they have cause for doing so, and whether you agree with that cause or not, this makes them very different from invaders who will invade any region just because.

Pretty sure that this is how many regions, like LKE for example, function. Raiding with a cause may separate them from raiders, but doesn't really separate them from many regions who have never been regarded as defenders.

Note that I said just cause in parts of my post you didn't quote. The LKE invades regions for all kinds of reasons, ranging from training, to proxy warfare, to colonization.* Except under the very rare circumstances in which The LKE invades regions it is actually involved in a just war against, such as The Greater German Reich, none of these causes could reasonably be considered just causes. The LKE has engaged in arbitrary invasion of regions and continues to do so.

There is also the issue, which is not insignificant, that the vast majority of The LKE's military operations are invasions with few defensive operations. For the Wardens and other defenders like them, the polar opposite is true. That is another difference.

* Yes, I am aware that most of The LKE's colonies were not obtained through invasion. I am also aware that The LKE had for years claimed and may still claim sovereignty over Moldavia, a region it attempted to colonize through invasion, so while The LKE may only rarely engage in invasion for the purpose of colonization, it nonetheless has done so.

[Drop Your Pants]

Nice edit there Cormac Wall of Text incoming....