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We'll be sure to telegram Merlin a game key of Need For Speed: Update Edition for his efforts. You want one too DYP?
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Drop Your Pants wrote:I'd also like to welcome Merlin to the highly exclusive "Jumped without reading" club. Anyone can jump fast but it takes real skill to reverse out at high speed.

We'll be sure to telegram Merlin a game key of Need For Speed: Update Edition for his efforts. You want one too DYP?

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Tim-Opolis wrote:We'll be sure to telegram Merlin a game key of Need For Speed: Update Edition for his efforts. You want one too DYP?

If the Wardens are handing out free stuff, I want some.

I mean we do semi-regularly give out Steam Keys to our troops as part of contests, giveaways, etc. The catch is that you obviously have to be a regularly deploying Warden or Guardian for us.
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Feux wrote:If the Wardens are handing out free stuff, I want some.

I mean we do semi-regularly give out Steam Keys to our troops as part of contests, giveaways, etc. The catch is that you obviously have to be a regularly deploying Warden or Guardian for us.

Oh, it's like a legit thing. That's some cool beans right there.
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Postby Defender of Democracy » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:36 am

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Yup, that's the plan!

Shoutout to TITO's Lenlyvit and RRA's Frattastan for doing a bunch of research on previous natives and generally the pre-Yauna situation.


Well here's the old Greece regional forum as a wayback machine link (2007.) There's virtually no member info on the page though. Someone has since disabled the forum.

I also believe some folks have contacted me over the past six years or so about Greece, but I'm not sure I have the time to search my telegrams (unless someone knows of a way to search telegrams now.) They might be on my Unibotian WA Mission account, but more likely they were sent to Unibot II (RIP.)


Correct. You drafted the liberation resolution with a former nation and Nikolaos the Great(who is still around and in the region).
The remaining natives who are still around have returned to the region now...
Once the region is transferred to Nikolaos,that liberation resolution can be repealed as it would be null and void with the region not being founderless and in control of the natives.

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm

For a long time, the disgraced pariah of the Defender world, Unibot, has claimed that we are nowhere up to his levels of "shitting updaters". The Grey Wardens are just socialite pretenders more focused on their own image and super dank memes than preventing the blight from spreading across the world, if you'd believe him. To that I say that Unibot is living in the past, we are the future, and I pulled 30 updaters for Sunday night with 4 hours notice. Now, as someone who was in the UDL, I can assure you that Unibot never pulled 30 updaters on such short notice. Therefore, we can conclude that TGW > UDL, gg no re. However, enough about the rightfully forgotten past, because this is a great update to talk about.


"Who broke you, Tim?" comes to mind, here.

For starters, I certainly did pull thirty updaters on short notice. But more recently, when I came out of a three-year retirement for (what?) fifteen minutes, I had more than thirty updaters secured for that liberation too. If I recall correctly, this sent you into a cataclysmic rage - as you scowled, derailed a training session, bitched to every Warden who would listen to your wounded pleas, and threatened ridiculously that you would "blackball" any defender that was ever recruited again by me.

One of us is living in the past and it's most certainly you.

Don't get me wrong, the Grey Wardens seems like a perfectly functional organization. Thirty is very good number. But stop with the shitposts. For someone who claims I'm "in the past," you don't fucking shut up about me. More to the point, you don't get to brag about being able to recruit more than me, when you're the one who turns into a eight year old if I do recruit anything. Put up or shut up, Tim. If you want to keep talking shit about me, you better be prepared to take the shackles off this armchair of mine. You look ridiculous measuring yourself against someone you're simultaneously trying to bar from defending.
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Postby Somyrion » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:21 pm

The Unibot fetish does seem a little strong for someone most of gameplay agrees we should be trying to ignore.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:30 pm

Unibot III wrote:Don't get me wrong, the Grey Wardens seems like a perfectly functional organization. Thirty is very good number. But stop with the shitposts. For someone who claims I'm "in the past," you don't fucking shut up about me.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of this post because I have literally zero first-hand experience whatsoever with your ability to recruit vis-à-vis that of Tim and other Warden officers and I am thus unqualified to speak on the matter. But I will comment on the rest of this post and say that regardless of everything else Tim has posted, he didn't write the shitpost you linked to that mentioned you - while he did do that report, the shitpost itself that mentioned you was completely written by me without any edits whatsoever. Certainly I do understand why, from your point of view, that such a post would be construed as offensive and cruel, especially now that it would appear from your point of view to be part of a series of Tim yelling about Unibot. But that certainly wasn't the case; I don't bear any ill will towards the way you ran the UDL because I'm not qualified to speak on the topic. Quite simply, the truth that I have a very sardonic and sarcastic wit and thought that including a a comedic criticism of you would be a funny addition to my post (I must stress the word addition; the post was never primarily intended to be about you), because that's just was it is - lighthearted comedy and satire (of myself more than anyone else, including you). I wasn't trying to make any political point when posting; rather, I attempted to gently poke fun at myself as a radical moralist Defender and entertain myself/others. I do apologize for any and all bitterness or anger you felt as a result of that post and will take responsibility for that, but at the end of the day I was simply trying to entertain, and I sincerely hope that this clarification can allow you to be entertained rather than angered by my post.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:31 pm

Somyrion wrote:The Unibot fetish does seem a little strong for someone most of gameplay agrees we should be trying to ignore.

Seems to be a classic thing that happens on any platform, everyone agrees that someone is bad and must be disgraced, and then never shut up about said pariah, both defeating the purpose and making him out to be a bizarre martyr for unspecified reasons. :lol2:
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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:38 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Don't get me wrong, the Grey Wardens seems like a perfectly functional organization. Thirty is very good number. But stop with the shitposts. For someone who claims I'm "in the past," you don't fucking shut up about me.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of this post because I have literally zero first-hand experience whatsoever with your ability to recruit vis-à-vis that of Tim and other Warden officers and I am thus unqualified to speak on the matter. But I will comment on the rest of this post and say that regardless of everything else Tim has posted, he didn't write the shitpost you linked to that mentioned you - while he did do that report, the shitpost itself that mentioned you was completely written by me without any edits whatsoever. Certainly I do understand why, from your point of view, that such a post would be construed as offensive and cruel, especially now that it would appear from your point of view to be part of a series of Tim yelling about Unibot. But that certainly wasn't the case; I don't bear any ill will towards the way you ran the UDL because I'm not qualified to speak on the topic. Quite simply, the truth that I have a very sardonic and sarcastic wit and thought that including a a comedic criticism of you would be a funny addition to my post (I must stress the word addition; the post was never primarily intended to be about you), because that's just was it is - lighthearted comedy and satire (of myself more than anyone else, including you). I wasn't trying to make any political point when posting; rather, I attempted to gently poke fun at myself as a radical moralist Defender and entertain myself/others. I do apologize for any and all bitterness or anger you felt as a result of that post and will take responsibility for that, but at the end of the day I was simply trying to entertain, and I sincerely hope that this clarification can allow you to be entertained rather than angered by my post.


I appreciate the clarification. Cheers.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 pm

Unibot III wrote:
For a long time, the disgraced pariah of the Defender world, Unibot, has claimed that we are nowhere up to his levels of "shitting updaters". The Grey Wardens are just socialite pretenders more focused on their own image and super dank memes than preventing the blight from spreading across the world, if you'd believe him. To that I say that Unibot is living in the past, we are the future, and I pulled 30 updaters for Sunday night with 4 hours notice. Now, as someone who was in the UDL, I can assure you that Unibot never pulled 30 updaters on such short notice. Therefore, we can conclude that TGW > UDL, gg no re. However, enough about the rightfully forgotten past, because this is a great update to talk about.


"Who broke you, Tim?" comes to mind, here.

For starters, I certainly did pull thirty updaters on short notice. But more recently, when I came out of a three-year retirement for (what?) fifteen minutes, I had more than thirty updaters secured for that liberation too. If I recall correctly, this sent you into a cataclysmic rage - as you scowled, derailed a training session, bitched to every Warden who would listen to your wounded pleas, and threatened ridiculously that you would "blackball" any defender that was ever recruited again by me.

One of us is living in the past and it's most certainly you.

Don't get me wrong, the Grey Wardens seems like a perfectly functional organization. Thirty is very good number. But stop with the shitposts. For someone who claims I'm "in the past," you don't fucking shut up about me. More to the point, you don't get to brag about being able to recruit more than me, when you're the one who turns into a eight year old if I do recruit anything. Put up or shut up, Tim. If you want to keep talking shit about me, you better be prepared to take the shackles off this armchair of mine. You look ridiculous measuring yourself against someone you're simultaneously trying to bar from defending.


I don't believe you're someone who anybody on Gameplay should ever reply to or give attention to, but you took my bait so I feel obligated to give you a reply. I'm going to end this here and now, because we're all better off without you.

You know what broke me regarding you, Unibot? It's the fact that you choose to stay on this game despite what you've done, despite the fact that you tiptoed your admission of guilt on GP just enough to avoid being immediately re-classified to Delete-On-Sight, despite the fact that multiple Game Moderators are willing to say on Discord and even occasionally on-site their real feelings about you that can't be acted upon due to a lack of on-site evidence, despite the fact that you're frankly unwelcome. You know why I bring you up? It's not because we care about you, it's not because we like you, and it's sure as hell not because we respect you. It's because you're still on this game, you still keep trying to ingratiate yourself back into the community, and because I don't believe that you have any right to attempt to do that. Also, you're notorious for revisionism.

For starters, you certainly did not pull thirty updaters on short notice. Maybe, once or twice, you found thirty people that would log into the #UDL IRC Channel, but you and I both know well enough that about half of those would miss their jump by a fucking mile. Please don't make me log dump #udl, Unibot, I might just get tempted enough to start log dumping #udl-cmd too while I'm doing it. There's nothing to back up your fake news, mate, and reality is certainly aligned towards the truth rather than what you're trying to make up. More recently, you did indeed come out of a "three year-retirement". You formed a server to attempt to train troops, gave them outdated tactics, and were such a failure in OpSec that I encourage anyone who wants to read the entirety of that server's logs to go ahead and do so via that link. I didn't even have to stay in the server or say anythin. I showed up for five minutes, took all your logs, and left. Did it a couple times, really. There's eighteen accounts in that server, and quite a few of them aren't people who'd have been deploying into Lazarus. However, sure, please keep on telling us how you "secured thirty updaters".

If I recall correctly, there wasn't any "cataclysmic rage". Maybe you should learn modern R/D and realize that if you're going to try to move into a Warzone on a piss poor trigger then bored defenders with nothing else to chase in will follow you in. Did I know it was your people? Absolutely. However, I wasn't even the one who spotted it mate. As for blackballing people you recruited, I would be far from the only one. Now, I'm sure there would be folks who could become functioning members of GP once they got a reality check, but not everyone can be you know? Regarding the gunboat diplomacy regarding blacklisting any region that takes you in, that part is true. I'm not the only one either. You're not getting back into Gameplay, so please stop trying to do so.

I'm living in the present, buddy, maybe you should too.

As for your last paragraph, I'd first of all suggest you learn how to link posts. We get it, dude, you're really grumpy that Gameplay is driven so much by social politics these days. Maybe others of us were just tired of a game dominated by people like you so we flipped the tables? If you can't be a functioning part of the community, you can't be a functioning part of the gameplay. Sure, call me an "eight year old" for reacting whenever you do something. Most of us would call it protecting our community. Put up or shut up, Unibot. If you're really so remorseful, then leave for good.
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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:22 pm

You keep claiming a consensus on your thoughts ("most," "most," "most," etc.), so much so I wonder if you actually believe everyone thinks the way you do. I'm not "ingratiating" anything, I'm just here - being me. These shitposts of yours aren't "tiresome," they're clownish - they legitimately appear silly and resentful.

I've made many mistakes in my life and I've never claimed to be perfect. One of those regrets was letting you down when I was Chief. I didn't try enough to understand you. And I was too quick to antagonize you back. I didn't have the restraint or the maturity to be the kind of leader that I had hoped to be then.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:08 pm

Unibot III wrote:You keep claiming a consensus on your thoughts ("most," "most," "most," etc.), so much so I wonder if you actually believe everyone thinks the way you do. I'm not "ingratiating" anything, I'm just here - being me. These shitposts of yours aren't "tiresome," they're clownish - they legitimately appear silly and resentful.

I've made many mistakes in my life and I've never claimed to be perfect. One of those regrets was letting you down when I was Chief. I didn't try enough to understand you. And I was too quick to antagonize you back. I didn't have the restraint or the maturity to be the kind of leader that I had hoped to be then.

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I wonder how many times you can subtly admit your actions before you finally say something deemed actionable?

When I say "most", I know what I'm saying. Your lack of being welcome in Gameplay for now and forever proves that as much as anything else. Also, please cut it out with the patronizing drivel. You didn't let me down while you were Chief, you let down this entire community. Hell, substitute "you" for the Gameplay Community and it almost looks like a semi-legitimate apology. It's not like you have age to use as an excuse either, you were legally an adult that whole time. I'm not sure if I was clear enough the first time, so I'll dedicate an individual sentence to it this time. You're not welcome.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:12 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:If you can't be a functioning part of the community, you can't be a functioning part of the gameplay.


This should be the golden rule for all gameplay organizations, honestly. Places like TBR/DEN, Grand Central, and The Invaders put gameplay over community, and it ultimately cost them. It's great that NSGP has trended towards this.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:45 pm

All this Unibot talk reminded me of ol' Unibot vs. Jakker, and of the real question here: is Guy gonna take my challenge or just slink away?

I guess I did say "put up or shut up," and the latter is a valid option. ;)
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:46 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:All this Unibot talk reminded me of ol' Unibot vs. Jakker, and of the real question here: is Guy gonna take my challenge or just slink away?

I guess I did say "put up or shut up," and the latter is a valid option. ;)

Guy is not a member of The Grey Wardens, he's too slow for us.

Take it up with the Rejected Realms Army in their thread please.
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Postby Suthesia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:34 am

Hi, I heard the Grey Wardens defend regions. Could we get your help?

Invaders have flooded into South Africa, overthrew and ejected our delegate. We're not certain of their origin.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:47 am

Suthesia wrote:Hi, I heard the Grey Wardens defend regions. Could we get your help?

Invaders have flooded into South Africa, overthrew and ejected our delegate. We're not certain of their origin.

I'm not a member of TGW anymore, but I can help out with answering this. The nations in your region currently are members of TITO and other defender organizations, there to kick out raiders. The delegate that was delegate before KREICH took the region was not a native nation, as it resided in the region Christmas during the period that TWPAF/NPA held the region for the holidays. It only moved to South Africa after the first of the year, taking advantage of a founderless region to seize power.

Furthermore, all of the nations that were endorsing that nation were not native nations of South Africa. One came from Audax, another came from The Rejected Realms. Also, to top it off, 16 days ago the "native delegate" (who wasn't even a native) declared they were going to refound the region https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=28748851. You were raided in two instances and didn't know it.
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Postby Suthesia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:09 am

Who called them in exactly?

I had conversed with our delegate, and one of the nations banjected was my WA state. None of us long-time natives asked for anyone to do this, at least from what I've found so far via TG. Just really confused. Was this a case of a preemptive rescue for our region?

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Postby Vulturret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:15 am

Suthesia wrote:Who called them in exactly?

I had conversed with our delegate, and one of the nations banjected was my WA state. None of us long-time natives asked for anyone to do this, at least from what I've found so far via TG. Just really confused. Was this a case of a preemptive rescue for our region?

Quite possibly, though I'd look for comment from TITO. :)
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Postby Lenlyvit » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 am

Suthesia wrote:Who called them in exactly?

I had conversed with our delegate, and one of the nations banjected was my WA state. None of us long-time natives asked for anyone to do this, at least from what I've found so far via TG. Just really confused. Was this a case of a preemptive rescue for our region?

It was initially a liberation against the Nazi forces of KAISERREICH, but if you have qualms about it I would suggest talking to either Roavin, TGW Commander, or Kanta Hame, a TITO Tactical Officer, through telegram.
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Postby Suthesia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:29 am

Alright, thanks mates. If it it's not a real invasion then there is less cause for alarm.

TGW, apologies for the hubbub in your thread.

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Postby Vulturret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:31 am

Suthesia wrote:Alright, thanks mates. If it it's not a real invasion then there is less cause for alarm.

TGW, apologies for the hubbub in your thread.

It's bumping, they don't mind :P
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Postby Sad-States » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:40 am

EDIT: Double post, sorry
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Postby Sad-States » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:42 am

Lenlyvit wrote:-Snip-

Furthermore, all of the nations that were endorsing that nation were not native nations of South Africa. One came from Audax, another came from The Rejected Realms. Also, to top it off, 16 days ago the "native delegate" (who wasn't even a native) declared they were going to refound the region https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=28748851. You were raided in two instances and didn't know it.

Audax did not partake in any event of an invasion of another region. It is against our region's policy.
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