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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:08 pm

Fauxia wrote:
I was at much of that update too... I left in the middle though, because I can’t stay awake much past 12:30... still, I knew I shouldn’t have marked myself as not being there :(

Did you update in any regions? I think that's our rough metric we use for if someone was there or not, though I definitely saw you jumping! I just don't think I saw you update anywhere, but that tends to happen against LILY. You'll improve in no time, I have zero doubts about it! No worries for only being there for half though, the .im_not_here is the right move :)
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:02 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Fauxia wrote:
I was at much of that update too... I left in the middle though, because I can’t stay awake much past 12:30... still, I knew I shouldn’t have marked myself as not being there :(

Did you update in any regions? I think that's our rough metric we use for if someone was there or not, though I definitely saw you jumping! I just don't think I saw you update anywhere, but that tends to happen against LILY. You'll improve in no time, I have zero doubts about it! No worries for only being there for half though, the .im_not_here is the right move :)
Eh, it's possible I did just fail at updating.
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Postby The First Warden » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:26 am

TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.

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Postby McChimp » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:38 am

The First Warden wrote:
TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.


We're just lulling you into a false sense of security.
Seriously, though, this is BS.
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Postby Gibraltarica » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:47 am

Jumping the gun there, aren't we? The fact is, a lot of us Black Hawks have irl responsbilities. I'm not going into the specifics of people's personal lives here, but those of us in high school are doing a lot of high-workload classes. Many folks are in university, and are in extremely rigorous programs. Others of us have jobs that require more and more of our time. I, personally, had to quit raiding (and resign as delegate of Narnia) due to needing more sleep and simply not having enough time to call up targets for massive tag raids.

If you want to be arrogant, then by all means, you've won the right to be arrogant with your performance in the tag fields, but know that if/when I get my free time back, Wardens or no Wardens, I'll be back, and better than ever before.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:55 am

Gibraltarica wrote:Jumping the gun there, aren't we? The fact is, a lot of us Black Hawks have irl responsbilities. I'm not going into the specifics of people's personal lives here, but those of us in high school are doing a lot of high-workload classes. Many folks are in university, and are in extremely rigorous programs. Others of us have jobs that require more and more of our time. I, personally, had to quit raiding (and resign as delegate of Narnia) due to needing more sleep and simply not having enough time to call up targets for massive tag raids.

If you want to be arrogant, then by all means, you've won the right to be arrogant with your performance in the tag fields, but know that if/when I get my free time back, Wardens or no Wardens, I'll be back, and better than ever before.


Where has it jumped the gun? Most updates are indeed dead, and you can feel free to scroll through the activity page and check that claim yourself if you so wish. You yourself just pointed out that you have a lot of troops who are at present unable to be participating in update activity, so the "dropping like flies" seems pretty factual to this point in time too. The reasons for inactivity are perfectly valid, but it doesn't change the fact of the present inactivity.

We've all got responsibilities, dude. Work and Midterms are killin' me right now. However, Defenders being RL MIA never stopped raiders from gloating about a lack of resistance, so I'm not sure when the goalposts were moved to make our poking attention at raider inactivity so unacceptable all of a sudden.
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Postby McChimp » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:We've all got responsibilities, dude. Work and Midterms are killin' me right now. However, Defenders being RL MIA never stopped raiders from gloating about a lack of resistance, so I'm not sure when the goalposts were moved to make our poking attention at raider inactivity so unacceptable all of a sudden.


He never said that you couldn't poke fun at our inactivity-he just pointed out the inaccuracy of your claims and criticised their brazenness. We might be less active but that doesn't mean that we've been defeated. Even if raiding were somehow dead it wouldn't be TGW who killed it.
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'YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
"So we can believe the big ones?"
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
"They're not the same at all!"
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.' - Hogfather, Terry Pratchett.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:53 pm

McChimp wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:We've all got responsibilities, dude. Work and Midterms are killin' me right now. However, Defenders being RL MIA never stopped raiders from gloating about a lack of resistance, so I'm not sure when the goalposts were moved to make our poking attention at raider inactivity so unacceptable all of a sudden.


He never said that you couldn't poke fun at our inactivity-he just pointed out the inaccuracy of your claims and criticised their brazenness. We might be less active but that doesn't mean that we've been defeated. Even if raiding were somehow dead it wouldn't be TGW who killed it.


Don't worry dude, every NS Community has their US Mens National Team. Don't worry that you won't be at this World Cup, maybe your new generation can qualify for the next one. Bruce Arena was never a good leader to appoint anyway.
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Postby Jakker » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:44 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
McChimp wrote:
He never said that you couldn't poke fun at our inactivity-he just pointed out the inaccuracy of your claims and criticised their brazenness. We might be less active but that doesn't mean that we've been defeated. Even if raiding were somehow dead it wouldn't be TGW who killed it.


Don't worry dude, every NS Community has their US Mens National Team. Don't worry that you won't be at this World Cup, maybe your new generation can qualify for the next one. Bruce Arena was never a good leader to appoint anyway.


You tried too hard on that one, Tim. That only barely made some sense. If you're going to try and be cleverly smug all the time, at least do it well.
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Postby Kanglia » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:56 pm

Jakker wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:
Don't worry dude, every NS Community has their US Mens National Team. Don't worry that you won't be at this World Cup, maybe your new generation can qualify for the next one. Bruce Arena was never a good leader to appoint anyway.


You tried too hard on that one, Tim. That only barely made some sense. If you're going to try and be cleverly smug all the time, at least do it well.


I mean it made perfect sense to me, although I can see how it'd be hard to get
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:10 pm

The First Warden wrote:
TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.


On the other hand, we've been hovering around a TBH high of 500ish embassies/active tags recently, which is somewhat of a record for my time.

*shrug*
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:36 pm

The First Warden wrote:
TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:08 am

The First Warden wrote:
TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.

I know I am indie and all, but when my PC fixes, would you like me to create some work so you dont become redundant? 8)
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Postby Kanglia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:54 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
The First Warden wrote:
TGW Update on What's Been Happening

Most updates are pretty much dead, and raiders seem to be dropping like flies. You know, when we said we aimed to kill off raiding, we didn't think it'd be this quick.

I know I am indie and all, but when my PC fixes, would you like me to create some work so you dont become redundant? 8)


we'd love it. Maybe I'd update a bit more if you did. :p
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:23 am

Kanglia wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:I know I am indie and all, but when my PC fixes, would you like me to create some work so you dont become redundant? 8)


we'd love it. Maybe I'd update a bit more if you did. :p

In the meantime, watch out for The Dark Vanquishers
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:29 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Kanglia wrote:
we'd love it. Maybe I'd update a bit more if you did. :p

In the meantime, watch out for The Dark Vanquishers

Credit to them, they've at least been at update. Unfortunately, they don't seem to know how update works and generally miss their target by a mile.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:30 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:In the meantime, watch out for The Dark Vanquishers

Credit to them, they've at least been at update. Unfortunately, they don't seem to know how update works and generally miss their target by a mile.


Ah. Hopefully they get some practice.
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Postby Solorni » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:00 am

Congratulations to Tim becoming TSP's MoFA!
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:17 pm

The name of this thread should be about how we obviously control TSP
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Postby Ikania » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 pm

Excellent. I look forward to following the orders of my masters in TSP and do the cabal's dirty work in order to expand the defendersphere's empire across NS.
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:36 pm

Ikania wrote:Excellent. I look forward to following the orders of my masters in TSP and do the cabal's dirty work in order to expand the defendersphere's empire across NS.
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Postby Altmoras » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:12 am

Invading on Life Support

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We're losing them Doctor!


After The Black Hawks collapsed on the field in the face of Daddy Warden a mere 10 minutes into update this last Saturday major, the invader faction was rushed into Weisshaupt General generally unresponsive and with a thready pulse. A faction of advanced age and questionable dietary choices, The Black Hawks remained in critical condition for almost 24 hours before some promising signs of life began to show at the beginning of this previous major update. Unfortunately for TBH's loved ones, these lifesigns were mere false positives. Two hawks fluttered out of the nest to raid and managed to score a single hit in the under 30 minutes of activity they were able to exert. This lone ray of light was sharply contrasted with the ten regions Daddy Warden defended against the blight, and the handful that were abject misses, including at least one where Dr. Altmoras and the invader lead updated in region before the other invader endorser even managed to click his single button to move into region, and many more where several wardens routinely beat the invader endorser into the target. As mentioned before, the Black Hawks unfortunately collapsed again and became unresponsive not even halfway through the update that they so totally needed to be longer. Figuring that tagging can't be that taxing, The Wardens and friends decided to try a little ourselves, setting triggers for detags to really drive the net invader success rate for the night into the red. Spoiler Alert: It's both easy and boring as hell, I almost understand why raiders give up so easily.

Regions Defended: 10
https://nationstates.net/region=orkla
https://www.nationstates.net/region=irisania
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... _the_world
https://www.nationstates.net/region=rapscallion
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... ry_council
https://www.nationstates.net/region=east_richmond
https://www.nationstates.net/region=meggy_landia
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... _islanders
https://nationstates.net/region=the_arcane_alliance
https://www.nationstates.net/region=pup ... tions_dump

Detags Hit: 18
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_diamond_kingdom
https://www.nationstates.net/region=spudlandia
https://www.nationstates.net/region=aurelis
https://www.nationstates.net/region=swishahouse
https://www.nationstates.net/region=gre ... or_freedom
https://www.nationstates.net/region=unalakleet
https://www.nationstates.net/region=bee ... meme_creep
https://www.nationstates.net/region=united_right
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nin ... _referalum
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... ul_nations
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... ed_nations
https://www.nationstates.net/region=meme_world
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nativestates
https://www.nationstates.net/region=republican_party
https://www.nationstates.net/region=affp
https://www.nationstates.net/region=utopian_dreams
https://www.nationstates.net/region=beecroft
https://www.nationstates.net/region=a_village

Wardens Involved:
First Warden Roavin
Chamberlain Vincent Drake
Commander Altmoras
Lieutenant Kingdom Of Circle of Magi

Friends Who Share in Our Victory:
[TSH] Aynia Moreaux
[TSH] Cthoria (Nineteen Lights)
[TSH] Siegfried Tyrus
[RRA] frattastan


Oh and I almost forgot, it's not just TBH. TRE is so not popping right now that we tagged their Jump Point on Saturday.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:17 am

I laughed. A nice snarky update. Congrats to all who participated.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:31 am

*shrug*

Training planned to stop after tenish targets is training meant to stop after tenish targets. In this case, training people to point in a live raid who’d only ever practice on a static region outside update. It’s a compromise so we can get a run in and work on some fundamentals, but people can also get to bed.

I don’t think you’ll find any Hawks that are ashamed of it. Training is important, as is not burning people out.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:00 pm

Save raiderdom! Join The Dark Vanquishers now!
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