The Grey Wardens: Warden-Lieutenant Eshialand

[Shizensky]

From the OP:

We are not the white knights who clamor for the approval of our peers.

Everybody loves the idea of the "Grey" Wardens until the Wardens do exactly as they've advertised.

[Kurnugia]

The Grey Wardens were supposed to fight Darkspawn, not become Darkspawn! This is the fourth TGW raid I've seen in recent days, which is unusually high for a defender organisation.

Raiding is only a tool. His purpose determines its value.

[Tim-Opolis]

The Grey Wardens were supposed to fight Darkspawn, not become Darkspawn! This is the fourth TGW raid I've seen in recent days, which is unusually high for a defender organisation.

Read the opening post, our doctrines, and logs of our operations. Your expectations on what we are "supposed" to do may need some realignment.

[Roavin]

The Grey Wardens were supposed to fight Darkspawn, not become Darkspawn! This is the fourth TGW raid I've seen in recent days, which is unusually high for a defender organisation.

Defenses and liberations are the stupendously overwhelming majority of what we do (quite literally every 12 hours with very few exceptions). Anything outside of that is very rare.

(also, four? In which time frame?)

[Tinhampton]

The Grey Wardens were supposed to fight Darkspawn, not become Darkspawn! This is the fourth TGW raid I've seen in recent days, which is unusually high for a defender organisation.

Defenses and liberations are the stupendously overwhelming majority of what we do (quite literally every 12 hours with very few exceptions). Anything outside of that is very rare.

(also, four? In which time frame?)

Firstly, I was referring to TGW invading regions, not defending or liberating them - as in Super Reich I, Warzone Europe, and the KAISERREICH "Protektorates". And secondly, all of these regions were raided (and the "Protektorates" refounded) this year, which means the past 100 days.

[Witchcraft and Sorcery]

I don't know of many other defender orgs that would condemn refounding or invading Nazi regions. Whenever we raid someplace, it's always been a warzone, invader region, or Nazi region in my experience, all of which are fair game as far as I see it. It's not unjust nor is it unwise; it's showing the darkspawn we're not afraid to take the fight directly to them. I was in TITO for 3 years and we did the same thing there. It's not a feature unique to the Wardens nor do I find it unusual or reprehensible in any way.

[Indo-Malaysia]

I don't know of many other defender orgs that would condemn refounding or invading Nazi regions. Whenever we raid someplace, it's always been a warzone, invader region, or Nazi region in my experience, all of which are fair game as far as I see it. It's not unjust nor is it unwise; it's showing the darkspawn we're not afraid to take the fight directly to them. I was in TITO for 3 years and we did the same thing there. It's not a feature unique to the Wardens nor do I find it unusual or reprehensible in any way.

Great work gang! I'm glad to see you taking it to the Nazis! You have our full support!

Eh, Nazi Regions? What Nazi Region? Am I missing something here?

[Pergamon]

I really don't understand why you try to disguise the Pacific's blatant hypocrisy with this absurd ideology. It fools literally nobody.

There is no disguise, you are entirely wrong. And there is also no need for disguise and no need hypocrisy. Ironically our fortress state is one of the most candid entities within this game, everyone knows us and everyone knows what to expect from us. Unlike many others, we see the game for what it is and not for what it could be. What you call hypocrisy here, is nothing more than a theme and game-based ideology that continues to touch the heart of its people, everything beyond that is just politics and an amazing multitude of factions warring over influence or the control of GCR. Welcome to the reality of this game, son.

But for now, let's just congratulate The Order of the Grey Wardens for their recent successful operations against undesirable elements in this game.

The Wardens have my full support for their raids against these regions. It's good to see that many others join the fight against some the most objectionable userites. o7

[Nakari]

Defenses and liberations are the stupendously overwhelming majority of what we do (quite literally every 12 hours with very few exceptions). Anything outside of that is very rare.

(also, four? In which time frame?)

Firstly, I was referring to TGW invading regions, not defending or liberating them - as in Super Reich I, Warzone Europe, and the KAISERREICH "Protektorates". And secondly, all of these regions were raided (and the "Protektorates" refounded) this year, which means the past 100 days.

I don't think the "Protektorates" can really be claimed as invasions.

[SYG]

Good work Wardens.

Clearly, they need to protekt their regions a bit more.

[Red Dusk]

I don't know of many other defender orgs that would condemn refounding or invading Nazi regions. Whenever we raid someplace, it's always been a warzone, invader region, or Nazi region in my experience, all of which are fair game as far as I see it. It's not unjust nor is it unwise; it's showing the darkspawn we're not afraid to take the fight directly to them. I was in TITO for 3 years and we did the same thing there. It's not a feature unique to the Wardens nor do I find it unusual or reprehensible in any way.

I can also add that the Renegade Islands Alliance Special Forces (which I lead for a year) also has a very similar ideal. Has had it for long before I was Security Officer. o/

[Cresenthia]

Firstly, I was referring to TGW invading regions, not defending or liberating them - as in Super Reich I, Warzone Europe, and the KAISERREICH "Protektorates". And secondly, all of these regions were raided (and the "Protektorates" refounded) this year, which means the past 100 days.

I don't think the "Protektorates" can really be claimed as invasions.

They can be claimed as such quite easily, as they are unprovoked, and hostile in nature. and what about Super Reich I as well? That was most certainly an invasion.

[Kitzerland]

I don't think the "Protektorates" can really be claimed as invasions.

They can be claimed as such quite easily, as they are unprovoked, and hostile in nature. and what about Super Reich I as well? That was most certainly an invasion.

Ok, but founding a region isn't an invasion. An invasion involves taking over the WAD position with hostile intent. Besides, it's hardly unprovoked.

[Cresenthia]

They can be claimed as such quite easily, as they are unprovoked, and hostile in nature. and what about Super Reich I as well? That was most certainly an invasion.

Ok, but founding a region isn't an invasion. An invasion involves taking over the WAD position with hostile intent. Besides, it's hardly unprovoked.

Then what specific action or set of actions provoked it?

[Tim-Opolis]

Ok, but founding a region isn't an invasion. An invasion involves taking over the WAD position with hostile intent. Besides, it's hardly unprovoked.

Then what specific action or set of actions provoked it?

You would think Kaiserreich had gotten the memo by now?

[Cresenthia]

Then what specific action or set of actions provoked it?

You would think Kaiserreich had gotten the memo by now?

You mean you seriously believe that Kaiserreich is a Nazi region? And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

[Kitzerland]

You would think Kaiserreich had gotten the memo by now?

You mean you seriously believe that Kaiserreich is a Nazi region? And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

They're on the CAIN list of Nazis. They use Nazi propaganda and symbols on their forums and in dispatches. They work with other Nazi regions. So yeah, KReich are Nazis. Sorry.

[Cresenthia]

You mean you seriously believe that Kaiserreich is a Nazi region? And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

They're on the CAIN list of Nazis.

So? That list has been repeatedly discredited. I expect actual reasons.

They use Nazi propaganda and symbols on their forums and in dispatches.

Erm, not anymore. The forum was fixed a year ago now. And an eagle alone is not a Nazi symbol.

They work with other Nazi regions. So yeah, KReich are Nazis. Sorry.

When? Embassies are not the same thing as collaboration, no matter what CAIN thinks.

[Indo-Malaysia]

You mean you seriously believe that Kaiserreich is a Nazi region? And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

They're on the CAIN list of Nazis. They use Nazi propaganda and symbols on their forums and in dispatches. They work with other Nazi regions. So yeah, KReich are Nazis. Sorry.

America has eagles. So did Nazi Germany. America = Nazi.

This is CAIN reasoning right?

[Tim-Opolis]

And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

I'm sorry, when did we ever give the impression that we're in the business of explaining our business to fascists and fascist-aligned folk? You're not exactly a party we feel the need to justify ourselves to.

[Kitzerland]

And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

I'm sorry, when did we ever give the impression that we're in the business of explaining our business to fascists and fascist-aligned folk? You're not exactly a party we feel the need to justify ourselves to.

Hi. I'm a democratic socialist. Why'd you raid SReich?

[Cresenthia]

And there is still the Super Reich I business to be explained, regardless of Kurnugia's recent actions.

I'm sorry, when did we ever give the impression that we're in the business of explaining our business to fascists and fascist-aligned folk? You're not exactly a party we feel the need to justify ourselves to.

No. Just no. Every single word in those two sentences is completely and utterly ridiculous. And even if you are of the opinion that I don't deserve an explanation, are you of the opinion that no one deserves an explanation?

[Drop Your Pants]

No. Just no. Every single word in those two sentences is completely and utterly ridiculous. And even if you are of the opinion that I don't deserve an explanation, are you of the opinion that no one deserves an explanation?

No one else is asking for about explanation on the invasion of Super Reich I The refounds were your own fault, keep your puppets alive.

[Cresenthia]

No. Just no. Every single word in those two sentences is completely and utterly ridiculous. And even if you are of the opinion that I don't deserve an explanation, are you of the opinion that no one deserves an explanation?

No one else is asking for about explanation on the invasion of Super Reich I The refounds were your own fault, keep your puppets alive.

I'm not too upset about the refounds. It's not defending, but it's mostly the fault of someone in our organization, yes. But with regards to Super Reich I, I am not the only interested party:

I'm sorry, when did we ever give the impression that we're in the business of explaining our business to fascists and fascist-aligned folk? You're not exactly a party we feel the need to justify ourselves to.

Hi. I'm a democratic socialist. Why'd you raid SReich?

[Drop Your Pants]

I'm not too upset about the refounds. It's not defending, but it's mostly the fault of someone in our organization, yes. But with regards to Super Reich I, I am not the only interested party:

Hi. I'm a democratic socialist. Why'd you raid SReich?

Think Kitzerland was joking You were literally just arguing with them about KReich being nazi's. If the only person you have to back you up is someone you've just met in this thread then you need to stop before you do yourself and your region any more harm.