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Postby Revall » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:58 am

I had been hoping for a while Warzone Europe would get raided, they were so comfy there they actually forgot they were a warzone.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:57 am

Plagentine wrote:Wouldn't be as fun raiding without hordes of fendas such as these showing up once in a while. Congratulations on the turnout.

Thanks Kleo! It was more than I expected, for sure, but I can't complain. See you next time, and wishing your internet all the best.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:03 am

Westwind wrote:Do not make me your enemy. This attack was not funny, and our protectorateship treaty is not a joke as some seem to think. I expect an apology. Otherwise I will presume you want war with me, and you will have established yourselves as raiders and hypocrites. I am prepared to call for a declaration of war over this. So yes, I have a serious issue with this.


West you're past your prime, no one is afraid of your threats these days. Asta on the other hand....

2.4 Equilism commits to deploying the E-Army (or any successor military) in defence of Warzone Europe when necessary for the duration of this agreement.

I only see NPA flags, one euro and one LKE in there. If this is such a big deal to you then where's your WA?
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:04 am

For your amusement and amazement, this is how Warzone Europe looked during the Spear Danes occupation (if you can call it that). At the time of this image being taken, the sole resident of Warzone Europe was Native Tears, which had just taken over the delegacy:
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Postby New Dukaine » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:22 am

O sht spr dans ar mazin at takn ovr wrzns tey th bst jajajajja.

Seriously, nice job
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Postby Small Huts » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:26 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:West you're past your prime, no one is afraid of your threats these days. Asta on the other hand....

smh
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Yuno Owl
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Postby Yuno Owl » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:57 am

I think some of you are misinterpreting what Westwind said. By 'those involved,' he's condemning are the people/regions who participated IN THE INVASION. Not "all TGW's allies" except telling them to condemn the fact that they raided WZE, which isn't unreasonable. You don't blame a friend of a region to ask everyone and their allies to condemn a raid over it.
Otherwise he'd be condemning TWP Military, which did defenses but wasn't involved in the raid itself, and he clearly isn't. Given that Equilism is one of our greatest allies and their friend got ganged on....this is literally one of the rare times I have an excuse to do defenses. It was really weird though.
However, it caught me a lil' off guard-- I almost joined that raid before remembering last minute they're an ally (close call lol) Then had to work with other regions to get a liberation out-- most defenses done in a two day span that I've ever seen for TWP @.@ /

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Postby Witchcraft and Sorcery » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:59 am

I am not a raider and I would take it as an affront to be called one if I had one iota of emotional investment in this game. I play to have fun, not to worry about what people think about me. I worry about that enough in my real life. I will defend native communities until the day I leave this game. Do not ever doubt me in that statement. If that means the NPO will forever classify me as userite filth, so be it.

However, warzones exist for a reason. As many have pointed out already, the safety of any warzone "community" is always at risk because of how they were developed. The notion that any sort of protectorate can be established over them is absolutely ludicrous and only serves to increase the emotional tension of this game, which already reaches worrying levels at times. I'm not scared of you or Equilism, Westwind. I don't think anyone here is. It was a joke but it also serves to show how utterly ridiculous it is to be so invested in making a region something it is not. It was loads of fun and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Shoutout to all the s p i c y b o i z, 'twas truly a night to remember :lol:


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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:10 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:West you're past your prime, no one is afraid of your threats these days. Asta on the other hand....


Astarial is not to be trifled with. Westwind should have played that card. :lol:
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:01 pm

Personally, I think it's worth noting that if you really want to hit a warzone for practice, there's quite a few of them, and the others don't have the ties and benefactors that this particular one does. You knew quite well what bees nest you were poking by hitting this one of them all, and I say that as someone who's weighted the pros and cons of such myself in the context of considering an all-warzones run. I'm not going to ponder *why* you chose to poke it, but it's evident you have confidence that any backlash will be laughable. I hope it isn't, if just becuase that'd be far more interesting.
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:52 pm


Here, let me shorten the list for you.


You must not be able to read properly because nobody ever said they were declaring war on all of those regions. And besides, literally only 15% of the regions you listed are somewhat relevant in Gameplay. NS wars are indeed silly.

Now go back to restoring native regions.
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Postby Consular » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:56 pm

Pergamon wrote:
Consular wrote:But it's completely ok for a GCR to attempt to enslave another GCR, right Pergamon? ;)


Absolutely! Especially if this means that there is an absolute real chance that all influential third parties (except the Pacific) and all cosmopolitan userites, are being purged to the point of no return? Yes. Give me more GCR enslavement. You call it enslavement though, I call it liberation. The GCR are not the playground of the advanced NS politician, nor the legitimate holdings of some powerful NS families or the prestigious outpost of Defender or Raider orgs. These elements just harness the rich resources of the GCR's or polish up their completely irrelevant CV. (Sometimes I wonder why some regions do not even have a Minister of Ego Affairs.)

We have a different perception of this game. I might remind you that Pacifica doesn't only resolve around the Pacific. What has been started 2003 is far from being over and the battle for Feederite soil isn't over yet.

I really don't understand why you try to disguise the Pacific's blatant hypocrisy with this absurd ideology. It fools literally nobody.

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Postby Neop » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:11 pm

Sygian II wrote:Now go back to restoring native regions.

At this point I'm certain Solidarity is only relevant to the raiders who poke fun at it.
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:18 pm

Neop wrote:Solidarity...relevant

Never have I ever... seen these two words in the same sentence.
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Postby Blight-Bane » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:57 pm

Satya Romefeller wrote:
Blight-Bane wrote:Didn't fail, just absent.

Isn't that the same thing?

Not really, no. Just like going on an uncontested tag run isn't really a victory. *shrugs*
Lenlyvit wrote:To be fair, we had 45 updaters tonight. We could have broken off half of our forces to beat the taggers easily, but we wanted to save you the humiliation.

Well, given the endo disparity on the targets, we could've spared a few. I'd be careful with the braggadocio. Someone might call you on that.

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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:02 pm

Blight-Bane wrote:
Satya Romefeller wrote:Isn't that the same thing?

Not really, no. Just like going on an uncontested tag run isn't really a victory. *shrugs*

But it is, in the sense that you successfully hit X number of regions in one update. No defender interference is just a bonus.
Lenlyvit wrote:To be fair, we had 45 updaters tonight. We could have broken off half of our forces to beat the taggers easily, but we wanted to save you the humiliation.

Blight-Bane wrote:Well, given the endo disparity on the targets, we could've spared a few. I'd be careful with the braggadocio. Someone might call you on that.

I'm sure only a small portion of those 45 could chase properly. :P
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Postby Blight-Bane » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:22 pm

Sygian II wrote:
Blight-Bane wrote:Not really, no. Just like going on an uncontested tag run isn't really a victory. *shrugs*

But it is, in the sense that you successfully hit X number of regions in one update. No defender interference is just a bonus.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I would think overcoming fenda interference would be the bonus. But yeah, not having to shorten your triggers, or improving jump times is the shit. I'll just waddle over to an unsuspecting region, take a dump, and then write about it. :bow:
Sygian II wrote:I'm sure only a small portion of those 45 could chase properly. :P

Heh. True that. Point Sygian.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:25 pm

Blight-Bane wrote:I'll just waddle over to an unsuspecting region, take a dump, and then write about it.

Best description i've seen for tag raiding so far :clap:
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Postby Blight-Bane » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:42 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Blight-Bane wrote:I'll just waddle over to an unsuspecting region, take a dump, and then write about it.

Best description i've seen for tag raiding so far :clap:

Nice cherry-pick. :P In context tho, my comment was intended to highlight the empty victory taggers claim without defender opposition. It's akin to fendas de-tagging without meeting any raider resistance (hard to blame them though, fending is hard :P).

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Postby Frattastan II » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:11 am

Yuno OWL wrote:Not "all TGW's allies" except telling them to condemn the fact that they raided WZE, which isn't unreasonable.


It is.
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Postby Roavin » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:38 am

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you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles."
— Sun Tzu
I like Sun Tzu quotes - not because I'm trying to be edgy (I'm more a puffy cheesy dad-lord, really), but just because there's some sound stuff there. "Know your enemy" is sound advice (as well as a great-sounding song har har), and so Warden Kurnugia (a.k.a. Blutmark) set out to scout KAISERREICH a bit. What he found was a dispatch with their "Protektorates". Well first, as somebody that is both a native english and native german speaker, that spelling is garishly and hilariously wrong in both languages. But second, and more importantly, two of those so-called "Protektorates" had CTEd very recently.

So, being the nice and kind and neighbourly Wardens that we are, we took it upon ourselves to refound those regions for safe-keeping, so that nothing happens to them again. We'll take very, very good care of them, I promise!

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The New Byzantine Empire

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Postby Kurnugia » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:15 am

I think this song is waaaay better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea9-UE28l04 :twisted:
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United States of Vietnam
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Postby United States of Vietnam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:25 am

These guys are not very good at military gameplay anyway :p

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:41 am

The Grey Wardens were supposed to fight Darkspawn, not become Darkspawn! This is the fourth TGW raid I've seen in recent days, which is unusually high for a defender organisation.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Big Bad Badger » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:48 am

Great work gang! I'm glad to see you taking it to the Nazis! You have our full support!
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