That said, you should know it "better" as I have been there for about a week or so while you have been there years, nonetheless, I love discussing things with people, specially when we are in disagreement (because what fun or utility would come from a discussion with only one point of view?), so if you permit me I'd like to have a discussion, not because you're "attacking my region", but again because I think discussions are a good base for society... And this one text in particular spiked my interest because I found it's existence to be full of irony
If the post runs long I apologize, but it's a long answer for a long post I guess
(I'll try to remember and add a tl;dr don't worry )
PS: Before I start, don't take anything I say as a personal insult please... I just have a very direct and strong way of saying things, and I'm sorry in advance if it comes off as offensive
New Ireland and Wales wrote:“The demagogue is usually sly, a detractor of others, a professor of humility and disinterestedness, a great stickler for equality as respects all above him, a man who acts in corners, and avoids open and manly expositions of his course, calls blackguards gentlemen, and gentlemen folks, appeals to passions and prejudices rather than to reason, and is in all respects, a man of intrigue and deception, of sly cunning and management.”
James Fenimore Cooper
“Nothing unmasks a man like his use of power”
Elbert Hubbard
“If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”
Mark Twain
I usually ignore whatever "famous quotes" people use instead of their own 'cause I find it more interesting if the person uses their brain power to come up with their own quotes, nonetheless I found this ones somewhat ironically interesting so I'll refer to them:
Quotes 1 and 2:
You do realize the irony of using said quotes when you exercised so many positions of power in the same region you are complaining about right? By the definition provided by the quote, you too were/are a demagogue, even more so than the king... I mean you were the one respecting all above you (as you youself said) and, just as you are accusing others of doing, you too were operating in secrecy and using your power to do something while showing that you were doing something else... So imo, it was a good read, I only found it a bit full of hipocrisy and a bit close minded... But nonetheless I digress; back to the topic.
Quote 3:
Why are you using such a quote, while protesting for more vote power? Do you not realize it actually deters from your point? If the vote is useless why is it so bad that the king as absolute power, after all even if he didn't things would still be the same wouldn't they?
Also... Here's the problem with using famous quotes to make your arguments sound smarter and more fancy: Sometimes you use quotes and atributte them to whom they didn't come from... Mark Twain is associated with that quote but there seems to be no real connection between the two... And a quick google search showed me that so... Yeah... Doesn't start well...
New Ireland and Wales wrote:This piece shall explain the Kingdom of Great Britain, a region which is probably one of the most power hungry regions and oppressive regions in the realm of NS.
By heavens... I advise you to get a dictionary or an encyclopedia and revise the definition of that word... I mean I'm not sure how it is in terms of politics themselves, but in terms of everything else... Opression is the last thing I've seen in this region... And although I'm fairly new here, I do have my fair share of experience in NS so I have known more than KGB...
New Ireland and Wales wrote:I have been in the region since June or July of 2014, over ⅔ of my time on NS. In that time I have served in a few positions such as Deputy Prime Minister, MP, Lord of Parliament, Foreign Secretary, Home Secretary, Attorney General, Speaker of the House of Commons, and Prime Minister. I
I'm sorry but for someone so worried about the diplomatic integrety of a region I can't help but feel that this piece is lacking all of it's integrety, as this does not seem to be the real reason behind your revolt... I mean if it was really that... I think that with so many years, and so many power positions, you would have noticed how it all really worked shortly after coming to power... Specially if it's so obivous as you say...
New Ireland and Wales wrote:
This is something I should have done a long time ago but due to me still having political ambitions in that region I refused to stand in this much opposition to the monarchy which controls all aspects of the region.
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A demagogue is defined as a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. I believe this strongly defined King George VI. Though tyrant might also be a good term to use.
... How should I put it... Analize it like this.... You see this is my problem with this post and the reason why I felt like giving a resposne... You realize the huge ammount of hipocrisy present just right here? You say Don/King George is a demagogue and a tyrant because (and I quote once again) "A demagogue is defined as a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. I believe this strongly defined King George VI. Though tyrant might also be a good term to use."... Yet as you said "This is something (you) should have done a long time ago but due to () still having political ambitions in that region (you) refused to stand in this much opposition to the monarchy which controls all aspects of the region."
If you still don't see it, I'l put it plainly here:
You say "Oh he's a demagogue because he cared more about agreeing with everyone just so he could keep his power, and I should have talked about this all before, but I didn't and I chose to go with the majority because I wanted to keep my power". Now you see the irony and hipocrisy?
New Ireland and Wales wrote:
King George has held power in the region since its founding in 2013 and during that time has rapidly expanded his power. While most royal families tend to be small and localized to the region the Fominovs/Hanovers/Mountbattens are a large and powerful family that expands across many regions. This is intentional as the King likes to have influence over KoGB and other regions so the best way to do this is adopt alot of people into a family with him as patriarch. It has become so large that being in the family or having a title is no longer prestigious. All because a man wants to keep his hold on power. Even if he does finally abdicate, as he has done multiple times to get his way, he will never fully lose his grip on power. He’ll always have his son and others to make sure he gets his way.
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To fully and simply explain the quotes at the top I’ll say this. The King is a demagogue much like Trump, Berlusconi, etc. who walks around saying that he is humble, saying his actions are the best, saying the way things are are good simply because it benefits him, but at the same time has a massive following because he is the only way to power in the region. The people, like in other regions, are power hungry. They’ll criticize those who mess up and throw down those who get in their way simply to rise to the top. The closer you get to the top the more you throw people out and the more you hunger for power. Voting in the region is essentially useless because if the King doesn’t like the leader of the largest party he’ll tell Parliament to choose someone else to become Prime Minister like he did with Akillian Talleyrand when he didn’t want Owen Hesse to become the Prime Minister. The core of all of this is the King. The region revolves around him and almost nothing happens without his approval.
I'm ignoring everything inbetween, but don't worry I'll adress it a bit later
Lets see... This is maybe for me the foundation of this text that already came into existence crumbling on itself...
As I said I have been in NS for some years... And most of that time was out of KGB... And let me tell you... If your problem with the region is that Don, aka the founder as too much power... Well I'm so sorry to disappoint you, but if there was someone to be against it would be Max (aka the creator of NS) since, the founder having absolute power is something that happens in general in every region by default... Of course the founder can reject this power but as you say " The people, like in other regions, are power hungry.", and so almost everywhere you go on NS the ruler rules and the founder is the absolute ruler. (On that note, if you think everyone in this game wants power and are power hungry, I don't think you would find your time here enjoyable, unless you yourslef were like that and liked the competition...)
Sometimes the founders can put it as obviously open as basing their region in a Monarchy and a Kingdom (btw... What were you expecting when going to a region that was a monarchy/kingdom... To have a complete and total diplomacy? An anarchy state?...) or they can mask it as a democracy, but in the end... Most of them do Veto anything they completly disagree with... And given the nature of the game and how regions work they are completly in their right to do so... So bashing someone or something, because it does the same as the ideas you defend is once again a bit too ironic and close-minded...
Adressing one last thing as I said I would adress the things inbetween:
New Ireland and Wales wrote: While the idea of reform is noble it will most likely never happen. Why? There are a few reasons. One of them being the simple fact that this is NationStates. Much like real life politics the main goal is to gain power and keep it so how would a true democracy even work on NationStates? It wouldn’t unless you place stringent rules in place against people staying in power for a long time. Another reason reform would never happen is that reform has been promised too many times and has never happened. King George has promised reform so many times but has never acted on it and never will. The only true way something could happen that might be good is the abdication of King George, a major downsizing of the royal family down to the bones, taking everyone out of the nobility for a fresh restart, and a significant weakening of the Monarchy in favor of a stronger, more independent House of Commons.
Such is the nature of not only NationStates: To have a government you desire to have, without being constricted by real world laws and idologies. I mean... As you yourself said reform will never happen... And it's honestly stupid that it does happen. Why? Simply because what would be the point of putting such constrictions on regions, while still being hable to create governments that are a "Psychotic Dictatorship"?
Everyone is free to create their own reagion and govern it as they please as long as it does not break site rules, just like everyone is free to lead their nation and govern it the way they want to, again as long as it does not break site rules.
And everyone is free to be a part of the region they feel that fits them better, or even create one of their own, just like everyone is free to govern a country in the way that is the most interesting to them. If you do not agree with the way a region is ruled, move onto another region, what would be the problem in that? Even if you don't want to lose your power, many times the experience will help you reach power again.
If you are not happy with the way this site/game works... I suggest, for your own sanity, that you seek other games, as this might not be quite the right thing for you...
TL;DR - This text to me came off as full of hipocrisy, flaws, irony (but life loves being ironic I guess) and written with too much of a closed mind...
I don't mean to offend you with this, I just felt like analyzing what you say is a good way to learn more on how to correct yourself and I think we all should be made aware of our mistakes, not so we can be ridicularized by them, but so we can learn from them and, if possible, how to correct them.
I understand you might have not liked the region, and you are in your every right to have that opinion/taste, there is no rule or law against it neither here on the game nor in real life that says you have to keep yourself attached to one region forever... But there is also no rule or law that says a founder should limit his powers... And in almosy any region you decide to set your foot in, the founder will have the ultimate power, even if less obviously...
In any case, I wish you good luck in the rest of your "career" in NS and everything of the sorts
PS: Sorry for the long post, once again I tend to carry on with long answers for long texts