Europeian Embassy - In Solidarity

[Castenor]

Another blow to BOM. Caer Sidi should really consider who they're partnering with, and how it affects their established allies, before signing a treaty with probably the most hated region in the game. CS is a good region and deserves their commendation, but they also deserve better than BOM. Reading Valtarre celebrate the termination of CS's alliance with Europeia makes it clear how much they care about CS and its best interests.

[Timiskrane]

Another blow to BOM. Caer Sidi should really consider who they're partnering with, and how it affects their established allies, before signing a treaty with probably the most hated region in the game. CS is a good region and deserves their commendation, but they also deserve better than BOM. Reading Valtarre celebrate the termination of CS's alliance with Europeia makes it clear how much they care about CS and its best interests.

I don't follow with how BoM is a looser in any aspect of this situation. Certainly you could make a case CS is at a net loss bc of this (I wouldn't though), but BoM literally only gained from it. And I don't think you could find much better, in terms of RP partners then BoM. (Again, remember, this is just an RP agreement that people are making a fuss about).

[Devious]

Another blow to BOM. Caer Sidi should really consider who they're partnering with, and how it affects their established allies, before signing a treaty with probably the most hated region in the game. CS is a good region and deserves their commendation, but they also deserve better than BOM. Reading Valtarre celebrate the termination of CS's alliance with Europeia makes it clear how much they care about CS and its best interests.

I don't follow with how BoM is a looser in any aspect of this situation. Certainly you could make a case CS is at a net loss bc of this (I wouldn't though), but BoM literally only gained from it. And I don't think you could find much better, in terms of RP partners then BoM. (Again, remember, this is just an RP agreement that people are making a fuss about).

a euro treaty is a net negative anyway, so really CS came out ahead

[Angeloid Astraea]

Another blow to BOM.

I love this silly website.

[Devious]

Another blow to BOM.

I love this silly website.

Another victory for the Khanate!

[Omnicontrol]

probably the most hated region in the game.

Europeia is the treaty being repealed, not the one being newly signed with strictly roleplay implications.

[Arstotskiano]

Another blow to BOM. Caer Sidi should really consider who they're partnering with, and how it affects their established allies, before signing a treaty with probably the most hated region in the game. CS is a good region and deserves their commendation, but they also deserve better than BOM. Reading Valtarre celebrate the termination of CS's alliance with Europeia makes it clear how much they care about CS and its best interests.

I do not see at all how this is a blow to BoM. This is just Europeia showing once more that they are an unreliable ally that will leave you if you even tap the people they don’t like. A purely role play treaty resulting in Europeia losing an ally feels more like a net gain for BoM.

[Sporaltryus]

A purely role play treaty

Article 2
The signatories agree not to partake in hostilities against each other. Each signatory understands that violation of this article could result in the dissolution of this treaty.

1. Hostilities and hostile actions shall be defined as any organizing of a raid directly on the other signatory, participating in a raid directly on the other signatory, conducting espionage, or engaging in subterfuge, etc.

Not sure why a "purely role play treaty" would have this article, but go off, I guess.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

A purely role play treaty

Article 2
The signatories agree not to partake in hostilities against each other. Each signatory understands that violation of this article could result in the dissolution of this treaty.

1. Hostilities and hostile actions shall be defined as any organizing of a raid directly on the other signatory, participating in a raid directly on the other signatory, conducting espionage, or engaging in subterfuge, etc.

Not sure why a "purely role play treaty" would have this article, but go off, I guess.

>>Don't include NAP in a treaty
>>TSPers make fun of that
>>Include a boilerplate NAP
>>TSPers make fun of that

Ya can't win!!

[Volstrostia]

A purely role play treaty

Article 2
The signatories agree not to partake in hostilities against each other. Each signatory understands that violation of this article could result in the dissolution of this treaty.

1. Hostilities and hostile actions shall be defined as any organizing of a raid directly on the other signatory, participating in a raid directly on the other signatory, conducting espionage, or engaging in subterfuge, etc.

Not sure why a "purely role play treaty" would have this article, but go off, I guess.

Could it possibly be that a boilerplate NAP is in practically every single serious treaty ever signed in NS? Could that potentially be an explanation?
Not sure why you thought a single "yeah we won't raid eachother" clause instantly means full-scale military aid and cooperation or anything else that it doesn't, but go off I guess.

[Ostrovskiy]

Not sure why a "purely role play treaty" would have this article, but go off, I guess.

Could it possibly be that a boilerplate NAP is in practically every single serious treaty ever signed in NS? Could that potentially be an explanation?
Not sure why you thought a single "yeah we won't raid eachother" clause instantly means full-scale military aid and cooperation or anything else that it doesn't, but go off I guess.

That's moving the goalposts. Ya'll stated it was a purely roleplay treaty, and that's not true.

[Sporaltryus]

Could it possibly be that a boilerplate NAP is in practically every single serious treaty ever signed in NS? Could that potentially be an explanation?

Could it possibly be that a serious treaty with strict roleplay implications wouldn't need to include a non-aggression clause that relates to R/D? Unless there's more than roleplay at play here. . .

[Reventus Koth]

you're right guys my bad the next time i write a treaty i'll make sure to leave the possibility of raiding the other signatory on the table

[Timiskrane]

Could it possibly be that a boilerplate NAP is in practically every single serious treaty ever signed in NS? Could that potentially be an explanation?

Could it possibly be that a serious treaty with strict roleplay implications wouldn't need to include a non-aggression clause that relates to R/D? Unless there's more than roleplay at play here. . .

Any independent region that signs a treaty with raiders and doesn't request protection from raids out of it would be quite bad at Foreign Affairs.

[Improper Classifications]

Everyone’s right can we move on

[The Ambis]

Could it possibly be that a serious treaty with strict roleplay implications wouldn't need to include a non-aggression clause that relates to R/D? Unless there's more than roleplay at play here. . .

Any independent region that signs a treaty with raiders and doesn't request protection from raids out of it would be quite bad at Foreign Affairs.

No but you see, any independent roleplay region that does sign an NAP with a raider region is quite bad at foreign affairs

[Castenor]

And I don't think you could find much better, in terms of RP partners then BoM. (Again, remember, this is just an RP agreement that people are making a fuss about).

I didn’t know BOM did RP until this happened. In fact, if asked, I and everyone else I know would describe BOM as a “raider organization”, not an “RP region”. Also interesting how you’re talking about how BOM is the best partner one could ask for and say nothing about CS, first of all the actual RP region and second of all the region you should be pretending to care about in this situation.

boilerplate NAP

boilerplate NAP

First and second time I’ve seen the term boilerplate this entire year. Seems the uniform BOM propaganda machine is trying to bring it back.

I don't follow with how BoM is a looser in any aspect of this situation.

I do not see at all how this is a blow to BoM.

Diplomatic isolation of the kind…was it Unibot that proposed it? All the way back when BOM first revived and then started screwing with every major gp region they could.

you're right guys my bad the next time i write a treaty i'll make sure to leave the possibility of raiding the other signatory on the table

Raider Unity, Maintain a Governor, Sign a— Nevermind.

[Reventus Koth]

I didn’t know BOM did RP until this happened. In fact, if asked, I and everyone else I know would describe BOM as a “raider organization”, not an “RP region”.

Your cluelessness is not an argument. Please go to the first post of the BoM embassy thread, CTRL+F "roleplay", and report back to me with how many times it appears in the first ever post, 11 years ago. Roleplay has never not been a part of our identity, you just had no interest in that aspect of our community until now.

you're right guys my bad the next time i write a treaty i'll make sure to leave the possibility of raiding the other signatory on the table

Raider Unity, Maintain a Governor, Sign a— Nevermind.

I appreciate your effort to demonstrate how braindead the NAP argument is

[Improper Classifications]

boilerplate NAP

boilerplate NAP

First and second time I’ve seen the term boilerplate this entire year. Seems the uniform BOM propaganda machine is trying to bring it back.

God forbid two people somewhat connected use the same term lest it be called a product of the propaganda machine.

[The Ambis]

I didn’t know BOM did RP until this happened. In fact, if asked, I and everyone else I know would describe BOM as a “raider organization”, not an “RP region”.

Your cluelessness is not an argument. Please go to the first post of the BoM embassy thread, CTRL+F "roleplay", and report back to me with how many times it appears in the first ever post, 11 years ago. Roleplay has never not been a part of our identity, you just had no interest in that aspect of our community until now.

Hi! I did it! So, the word roleplay appears three times. Want to know how many times military appears? Three.

[Falafelandia]

Your cluelessness is not an argument. Please go to the first post of the BoM embassy thread, CTRL+F "roleplay", and report back to me with how many times it appears in the first ever post, 11 years ago. Roleplay has never not been a part of our identity, you just had no interest in that aspect of our community until now.

Hi! I did it! So, the word roleplay appears three times. Want to know how many times military appears? Three.

One of which is in the phrase non-military. Your lack of knowledge of the region's culture holds no valued claim.
(This is to Castenor, not Ambis. Ambis is based.)

[Improper Classifications]

Your cluelessness is not an argument. Please go to the first post of the BoM embassy thread, CTRL+F "roleplay", and report back to me with how many times it appears in the first ever post, 11 years ago. Roleplay has never not been a part of our identity, you just had no interest in that aspect of our community until now.

Hi! I did it! So, the word roleplay appears three times. Want to know how many times military appears? Three.

Sounds like they’re just about equal, and if BoM is as serious about RP as it is it’s military, whoof.

[Castenor]

I appreciate your effort to demonstrate how braindead the NAP argument is

Turning a fun little silly joke into a point to advance your ideological interests? You must be fun at parties.

God forbid two people somewhat connected use the same term lest it be called a product of the propaganda machine.

There are fifteen posts in the Gameplay forum with the word “boilerplate” in them. About 10 are Souls and posts quoting Souls. Souls used the term, and then some other person with curiously the same exact political opinion used the same exact obscureish term to make the same exact point right after.

[Falafelandia]

I appreciate your effort to demonstrate how braindead the NAP argument is

Turning a fun little silly joke into a point to advance your ideological interests? You must be fun at parties.

He is.

God forbid two people somewhat connected use the same term lest it be called a product of the propaganda machine.

There are fifteen posts in the Gameplay forum with the word “boilerplate” in them. About 10 are Souls and posts quoting Souls. Souls used the term, and then some other person with curiously the same exact political opinion used the same exact obscureish term to make the same exact point right after.

So your argument is the fact that two users used the word boilerplate. I have been destroyed by your facts and logic. I'll join Libcord tomorrow.

[Reventus Koth]

I appreciate your effort to demonstrate how braindead the NAP argument is

Turning a fun little silly joke into a point to advance your ideological interests? You must be fun at parties.

sir you literally in this post go on to dissect the exact context of every usage of the word "boilerplate" on the GP forum, i assure you that i would be more fun at most parties

In all seriousness, I didn't get the vibe you were joking since the rest of your post was pretty serious. My b