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The Universe World
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Postby The Universe World » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:14 pm

Madjack wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Okay, Madjack, honestly, when the idea of "If we blacklist them but just use IC excuses every time" came knocking, did you really think we'd all be so stupid as to NOT recognize what the fuck was really going on?

You again are misusing the word blacklisting when what's happened is BoM have dug their own grave with their own actions. You really think people still want to work with them after the way they've approached both friends and neutrals? You really think we don't recognise their bullshit when they attempt to strongarm regions into signing agreements with them? Or when they "accidentally" hit a region that's part of an org allied to TWP? I suppose it'll come out BoM have closed that Warzone embassy with Osiris by mistake as well.
RiderSyl wrote:It's called lying, Lugus. Madjack is lying.

If some of the things that have happened ever actually come out, I hope you remember this post, and apologise.

TWP? Since when is TWP defender’s pet region?
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Postby Devi » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:19 pm

so the claims of refusing to engage are bullshit. the claims of unprovoked aggression are bullshit, given Euro's retagging of BoM hits was demonstrably first. and the claims of subverting the LKE are bullshit- Onder's largely pulling a hissy fit over not having his regionmates lick his boots eagerly enough.

for a statement claiming to want to keep things brief, y'all sure could've cut out most of the blatant falsehoods to streamline things even more.
though i guess that would've left pretty much nothing :blush:
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:23 pm

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RiderSyl wrote:Yes, I am the one that brought it up the first place, because that is what's fucking going on.

Why are you lying? That isn't what's going on here and you know it.

I'm not doubting myself on this one. Not this time. Unlike before, TNP is going after a region I want to stand behind.

Madjack wrote:You really think we don't recognise their bullshit when they attempt to strongarm regions into signing agreements with them?

Oh miss me with that horse-shit about "Strongarm regions into signing agreements". I was in TBRDEN, you know. I saw the agreements that were signed with TNP. I saw the exemptions on what not to hit. I saw Stargate on those lists. TNP can diplomatically make an agreement with fucking TBRDEN, have agreements with TBH, but Malice comes around and it's "strong-arming"?

The decades-old raiding exemption agreements have been mulched into another BS "IC justification" to cast out BoM.
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Postby Dominion of Acielon » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:24 pm

Kazaman wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I'm sorry, but exactly how does that tie in with BoM? Or am I missing something?


The foreign interests Onder refers to are BoM's leadership.

I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.
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Postby Dawn Denac » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:25 pm

Dominion of Acielon wrote:
Kazaman wrote:
The foreign interests Onder refers to are BoM's leadership.

I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual acted on their own.


You facing consequences for asking questions is dumb, imo. That's all I'll say on it here to not derail the thread, but I think Valfor's recent thread in Gameplay explains LKE's situation well enough.
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Postby Madjack » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:29 pm

RiderSyl wrote:Oh miss me with that horse-shit about "Strongarm regions into signing agreements". I was in TBRDEN, you know. I saw the agreements that were signed with TNP. I saw the exemptions on what not to hit. I saw Stargate on those lists. TNP can diplomatically make an agreement with fucking TBRDEN, have agreements with TBH, but Malice comes around and it's "strong-arming"?

I must've missed when it was still 2017 or 2015 or whenever it was TNP and TBRDEN were allegedly making agreements, but it's not the same TNP, just like how it's not the same gameplay. Strong-arming and threatening regions into making treaties and agreements with you isn't kosher.
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Postby Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:29 pm

Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


That's because they have no real evidence. Other then I went to Malice after correctly predicting LWU would strip of me of my rank. Yes, they will ban you and the defender peanut gallery will sit back and defend it, as opposed to actually defending regions.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:30 pm

Madjack wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Oh miss me with that horse-shit about "Strongarm regions into signing agreements". I was in TBRDEN, you know. I saw the agreements that were signed with TNP. I saw the exemptions on what not to hit. I saw Stargate on those lists. TNP can diplomatically make an agreement with fucking TBRDEN, have agreements with TBH, but Malice comes around and it's "strong-arming"?

I must've missed when it was still 2017 or 2015 or whenever it was TNP and TBRDEN were allegedly making agreements, but it's not the same TNP, just like how it's not the same gameplay. Strong-arming and threatening regions into making treaties and agreements with you isn't kosher.

What year was it when TBH committed a foreign affairs oopsie and thorned Stargate, despite a longstanding agreement they wouldn't raid it? I forget.
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Postby The Universe World » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:32 pm

Dawn Denac wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual acted on their own.


You facing consequences for asking questions is dumb, imo. That's all I'll say on it here to not derail the thread, but I think Valfor's recent thread in Gameplay explains LKE's situation well enough.

Agreed. Imagine being so fragile that you cannot handle someone asking a question. The WA Delegate saying these things is yet another huge blow to LKE.
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Postby Dawn Denac » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:36 pm

Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


That's because they have no real evidence. Other then I went to Malice after correctly predicting LWU would strip of me of my rank. Yes, they will ban you and the defender peanut gallery will sit back and defend it, as opposed to actually defending regions.


I will legitimately fight this claim they made against you guys as much as possible. Europeia can declare war like the League against all Raiderdom, unite with TNP or whatever the heck they want, but this is a baseless OOC claim and strangely, NO ONE but one person (Kazaman) has bothered to comment on it with a link to a thread post.

The Universe World wrote:
Dawn Denac wrote:
You facing consequences for asking questions is dumb, imo. That's all I'll say on it here to not derail the thread, but I think Valfor's recent thread in Gameplay explains LKE's situation well enough.

Agreed. Imagine being so fragile that you cannot handle someone asking a question. The WA Delegate saying these things is yet another huge blow to LKE.


I hope it's demonstrative that Europeia should walk back its statement about this ghost thread between BoM, Astrid and Rose. I don't care if you declare war like the League or what have you like I said above, but this just comes off as a blatant OOC lie with no evidence.

EDIT: Crediting Kazaman for actually replying.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:37 pm

The punishment of those that point out the real issues, the authoritarian control, the gaslighting, the vague implications of misconduct, blacklisting political adversaries through BS technical reasons that don't hold up to the slightest bit of logic...

Maybe regions and regional leaders that propagate those qualities are what actually make for an unhealthy diplomatic relationship.

Just Putin that out there.
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Postby Madjack » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:38 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Madjack wrote:I must've missed when it was still 2017 or 2015 or whenever it was TNP and TBRDEN were allegedly making agreements, but it's not the same TNP, just like how it's not the same gameplay. Strong-arming and threatening regions into making treaties and agreements with you isn't kosher.

What year was it when TBH committed a foreign affairs oopsie and thorned Stargate, despite a longstanding agreement they wouldn't raid it? I forget.

A formal agreement was never needed to prevent raiders - and anyone else - from touching Stargate. If you're suggesting one existed... well I've been in and out of TNP government since I came back to the game four years ago, and I've never seen anything like it, and there's nothing in our extensively declassified cabinet archives from those times to suggest that's the case either.
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Postby USS Merrimack » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:46 pm

For the Record. Our fight is against the BoM and the BoM alone. Warzone Europe has too much to rebuild to be used as a talking point for a conflict that does not involve us.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:47 pm

Madjack wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:What year was it when TBH committed a foreign affairs oopsie and thorned Stargate, despite a longstanding agreement they wouldn't raid it? I forget.

A formal agreement was never needed to prevent raiders - and anyone else - from touching Stargate. If you're suggesting one existed... well I've been in and out of TNP government since I came back to the game four years ago, and I've never seen anything like it, and there's nothing in our extensively declassified cabinet archives from those times to suggest that's the case either.


It's impressive that you read such a history in just 8 minutes!

Anyway, you moved to the nature of the agreement - formal or not - without actually recognizing my counterpoint. You want to make it seem like raid exemptions are some outdated concept, but TBH failing to exempt Stargate was a big deal this year.

If Malice deciding they want it written down somewhere before exempting a target is the difference between TNP not giving a damn and declaring it toxic strong-arming threats, then that really nails home how ridiculous the reaction is, doesn't it?

USS Merrimack wrote:For the Record. Our fight is against the BoM and the BoM alone. Warzone Europe has too much to rebuild to be used as a talking point for a conflict that does not involve us.

Understood. I'm not sure why a close ally of The League decided to drag y'all into this mess when this has nothing to do with the Warzones. Other than for cheap political points, I guess..
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Postby Malicious Souls » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:52 pm

Madjack wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:What year was it when TBH committed a foreign affairs oopsie and thorned Stargate, despite a longstanding agreement they wouldn't raid it? I forget.

A formal agreement was never needed to prevent raiders - and anyone else - from touching Stargate. If you're suggesting one existed... well I've been in and out of TNP government since I came back to the game four years ago, and I've never seen anything like it, and there's nothing in our extensively declassified cabinet archives from those times to suggest that's the case either.


Replying in a better place.

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Postby Gankands » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:54 pm

Dominion of Acielon wrote:
Kazaman wrote:
The foreign interests Onder refers to are BoM's leadership.

I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


I am formerly the LKE Imperial Army's Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. I resigned on the 23rd and on the 25th, became the first one that was kicked out the door. First, Onder accused us of working with Osiris, that it was an Osirian(?) plot. Later, when they started to do things like cherry-pick my resignation speech from the Imperial Army, I revealed all of what they had been cherry-picking from. The response from the Emperor didn't have anything to do with Osiris. It claimed that I was the originator of the plot and sowed discontent with no mention of Osiris! You can both that particular post and my response to it here: https://i.ibb.co/bg0tJyG/FEC0675-C-C52-D-4-C64-B3-EB-A90-D5-EAE48-C2.jpg. Later, after being pressured by the Imperial House, the Khan of LWU wrote this: https://i.ibb.co/G5Rjc5w/image.png. This making it sort-of a LWU plot. Now, it is a Brotherhood of Malice plot? They had no evidence for any of this and they keep changing the story. What that tells me is that the LKE is lying.

Here is my resignation speech from the Imperial Army:

On December 1st, 2020, I applied to join the Imperial Army. Almost exactly twenty minutes after I applied, my application was accepted by Valfor Talleyrand who was Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time. While I had been an elector since August 28th, 2020, and applied for the roleplay map, I was very much an elector just in title. Even I don't know how I didn't lose elector status for 28-day forum inactivity during that period. However, my applying to the Imperial Army that 1st of December was a small step towards becoming the elector I am now. It was the first thing I had ever done for the region.

I started as a lowly Private. I remember that of the operations that month, I only joined one: the delegate transition in Europeia that resulted in its current delegate taking the position. The puppet I used for that operation was Grestaltatse. My first official operation, however, was a five puppet tag raid led by the Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand and Captain Wilhelm Cransnikov as a second non-point updater on January 10th, 2021: Claninar, Crypolo, Hokaistan, Paphia, and Unia Terius. I remember the awkwardness of it. I had read the manual. I had looked over the procedure for prior raids on the server. Still I was asking questions on how to raid right up until the time of the first jump. Somehow, we successfully tagged all five. After the second operation, as part of the initial raiding party to occupy the region of Alnobia alongside Valfor, I got promoted to Corporal alongside Azrael Dreemurr in his first attempt at participation who got promoted to Lance Corporal. It was January 17th, 2021. The start of great things...

April 3rd, I was promoted to Sergeant. Come May, I was asked if I wished to attempt to become an officer. I had a delay at first. There were bits I was still learning about how to raid. Could I really accept being an officer of the LKEIA? What if my inexperience shown through? What if I failed as an officer? At least as an enlisted rank, any mess-up could be pointed to as inexperience to some degree. I told John Spencer-Talleyrand, the Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time, that I would need time. So I thought about it... The thought that got me to access were two: What if this is my one and only chance at accepting and I was personally asked, I didn't apply for it. I was promoted to Guard Corporal Major on May 5th, 2021. To be promoted to the full officer rank of Captain (as opposed to the warrant officer rank I had) I had, I had to successfully lead my first operation. The target was the region of Dacia. The point nation was my very first Imperial Army puppet: Grestaltatse. It was that raid I found out that time is actually slower than I perceived it; a thirty second trigger was WAY too long. Dacia got defended by the army named TITO. My initial worries were coming back to me. Not only had I virtually opened the door to defenders and then welcomed them in, it was one of the slowest defender groups that defended it. That major was a failure. Twelve hours later, I tried again. Same point nation. The target was the region of Doge Republic. This was the minor update. No one had told me that the minor update loves to update regions earlier than before the major. There I was off doing something else waiting for the seven minute mark so I could start watching for the time to jump... the target updated ten minutes earlier than it had in the major. After that minor, I temporarily changed my name to Victor Stevenson von Arcadia-Sova from Zecheriah Stevenson. After all, you can't have a victory without a Victor. Twenty-four hours after the attempt to raid Dacia, same target and point as the minor... "Go." "Hit." I had led a successful raid. "Third time's a charm and an almost heart attack," I said on the server after succeeding. From those three raids, I got promoted to Captain on May 8th. I got a perpetual fear that the targets of whatever raid I am leading will update ten minutes early and that defenders can make a zero second trigger most of the time. And, I watched Dacia until its last nation ceased to exist nearly a month later. (When all my puppets are in a non-CTE state, it makes a great puppet storage. Luckily, I don't let Grestaltatse CTE often.) And from there I would lead repeated raids almost every other day... (until a tag of Greater Cyngland did the most beautiful u-turn in the history of luck turning around around June 10th.) I didn't lead many operations after that; my next raid being more towards Foundation Day.

As you can tell, what I have to say concerns a decision that is obviously not being taken lightly by me. Through all of what I just said, I stoically took everything. Any disagreement was a non-serious attempt to persuade, but ultimately I would have said publicly I support any decision made by those higher than myself even if I did not agree with it. However, recent events have rendered it impossible for me to remain stoic. Following the completely disgraceful, spineless, and dishonorable retreat from A Liberal Haven in January, I began questioning my stoicism, but ultimately, if you asked me publicly, I would have said, "I support this." However, pairing that with the latest change ordered by His Supreme Majesty, a line has been crossed that I can not bite my tongue and say "I support this" publicly. A Liberal Haven was toeing the line thought impossible to cross. This change is completely out of line. It is so out of line that bringing up my problems with it would not be enough. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot be the Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot in good faith remain a member of the Imperial Army. Sorry. No. After something as out of line as the change, throwing away what I have accomplished, throwing away the accomplishment I am most proud of, is easier than saying "I support this."

Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army's Imperial Command.
Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army itself.


Next, here is what I wrote to the Retired Emperor Sequentia of the LKE on the 25th following my banning from the LKE:

Before I say anything to explain my side of the story because I doubt that Onder, NES, and Felix won't edit or delete my posts so only their false story remains, I would like to say that I remain loyal to the LKE and always will be, but to the three main autocrats, I do not.

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Let me start with the beginning of the story. The beginning of the story was our joining the raid on A Liberal Haven. Onder said that the reason we left early was "an imperialist power standing up for ourselves - with courage and honour." What is honorable about cowardice? You might say it wasn't cowardice, but I ask you, how did everyone participating in the raid perceive it? It sure wasn't a perception of courage and honor. The LKE Imperial Army is viewed as a shadow of its former self. When was the last time the LKE ran a raid that wasn't Grand Abbeyverne Republic? By leaving the operation early, the Imperial Army only digs the hole deeper. It is because the hole was dug deeper that the military was demoralized. Contrary to the story the three (Onder, NES, and Felix) want to tell, Osiris may have played a role in our leaving it early, but it was the proving Osiris right perception-wise that was the reason for the general discontentment in the opinions on withdrawing.

The second piece of the story was The League's declaration of war on the Brotherhood of Malice, Osiris, Lone Wolves United, and The Black Hawks. Following this, all operations with the later two now had to be approved by Felix or a Field Marshal. The LKE may be independent, but does anyone that was in it a week ago know how to defend well without the keyboard scripts used such as Breeze? Did anyone in it even know how to defend regardless? No. Everyone only knew how to raid. Can a ten-unit army stand a chance in an occupation? No. They'll be covered in defenders three-to-one the next update. By squeezing who the Imperial Army can raid with, the list of operations available grew short. This piece was never brought up because it is in Habsburg Castle.

The last piece was the rule change that prevented LKE units from participating in operations with those on the proscribed list, the Brotherhood of Malice, with LWU and TBH being more restricted than before. At first glance, the rule change seems like common sense, but when digging deeper, one finds that it oversteps. It wasn't referring to the Imperial Army no longer participating in such operations; it was also referring to operations when flying the flag of Kantrias, of Europeia, of LWU, and all the other militaries that LKE units were a part of. It makes sense that the Imperial Army wouldn't. Everyone agreed with the previous sentence for most situations. A situation where we didn't is, for example, the major after this telegram is sent, an ANTIFA raid will be held against the region of Sanctum. According to the new rule, soldiers of the Imperial Army would not be able to participate in an anti-fascist raid even as members of pick-a-region. However, the latter was completely unacceptable. Now, why were we apart of other militaries? I first joined EPSA (East Pacific Sovereign Army) because the Imperial Army wasn't active enough. One simple tag operation in the name of the LKE every one to three months isn't exactly active. I later switched to LWU because EPSA became just as inactive, and if it participated in operations, they were defender ones (I chased one time as part of an EPSA training op. I hated it (and they stressed script usage for defender operations). I still wouldn't know how you begin a chase in non-training circumstances nor how to lead a chase training or not.).

Following the third piece, we began to resign. Valfor resigned almost immediately. Raeliana, Rose, and Astrid toyed with the idea of resigning but wished to wait and see. I was the last to toy with the idea. It pained me immensely to do so, but I could not in good faith continue to be a member of it while there existed restrictions like the above that came into existence for no good reason besides power-lust. What followed was a showing that you were the one keeping Imperial House power-lust at bay: every post by one of the three regarding the resignations is a lie. Every post propaganda for the twisted story they wanted to tell. They cherry-picked my resignation speech for pieces that without context told the tale they wanted. Then towards the end, they had the gall to call me the leader of mass resignation with no proof besides me providing the full versions of what they were cherry-picking for electors to form an educated opinion rather than having a corrupt story. They call it leaking. I call it proving autocratic propaganda wrong. I acknowledge that Provision II of the Loyalty Act exists, but I refuse to drink the cool-aid of those slandering my name with twisted interpretations. They even continue to do so but by twisting the words of the former elector, Rose. If Rose, Valfor, and Raeliana meant what they had signed, why was that the last straw for both Astrid and Rose? For surely if they meant it, they would have stayed. Below, you will find either the code or a screenshot that Jim Jones and his black-shirts have likely edited or deleted by now. Astrid even told me that she had been threatened no less than five times by Felix.

Felix's Threats Existence as Admitted by Astrid: https://ibb.co/JCxhjN0


Now would anyone care to explain to me how one gets any sort of conspiracy out my telegram to the Retired Emperor Sequentia or my resignation speech?

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Postby The Universe World » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:00 pm

Gankands wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


I am formerly the LKE Imperial Army's Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. I resigned on the 23rd and on the 25th, became the first one that was kicked out the door. First, Onder accused us of working with Osiris, that it was an Osirian(?) plot. Later, when they started to do things like cherry-pick my resignation speech from the Imperial Army, I revealed all of what they had been cherry-picking from. The response from the Emperor didn't have anything to do with Osiris. It claimed that I was the originator of the plot and sowed discontent with no mention of Osiris! You can both that particular post and my response to it here: https://i.ibb.co/bg0tJyG/FEC0675-C-C52-D-4-C64-B3-EB-A90-D5-EAE48-C2.jpg. Later, after being pressured by the Imperial House, the Khan of LWU wrote this: https://i.ibb.co/G5Rjc5w/image.png. This making it sort-of a LWU plot. Now, it is a Brotherhood of Malice plot? They had no evidence for any of this and they keep changing the story. What that tells me is that the LKE is lying.

Here is my resignation speech from the Imperial Army:

On December 1st, 2020, I applied to join the Imperial Army. Almost exactly twenty minutes after I applied, my application was accepted by Valfor Talleyrand who was Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time. While I had been an elector since August 28th, 2020, and applied for the roleplay map, I was very much an elector just in title. Even I don't know how I didn't lose elector status for 28-day forum inactivity during that period. However, my applying to the Imperial Army that 1st of December was a small step towards becoming the elector I am now. It was the first thing I had ever done for the region.

I started as a lowly Private. I remember that of the operations that month, I only joined one: the delegate transition in Europeia that resulted in its current delegate taking the position. The puppet I used for that operation was Grestaltatse. My first official operation, however, was a five puppet tag raid led by the Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand and Captain Wilhelm Cransnikov as a second non-point updater on January 10th, 2021: Claninar, Crypolo, Hokaistan, Paphia, and Unia Terius. I remember the awkwardness of it. I had read the manual. I had looked over the procedure for prior raids on the server. Still I was asking questions on how to raid right up until the time of the first jump. Somehow, we successfully tagged all five. After the second operation, as part of the initial raiding party to occupy the region of Alnobia alongside Valfor, I got promoted to Corporal alongside Azrael Dreemurr in his first attempt at participation who got promoted to Lance Corporal. It was January 17th, 2021. The start of great things...

April 3rd, I was promoted to Sergeant. Come May, I was asked if I wished to attempt to become an officer. I had a delay at first. There were bits I was still learning about how to raid. Could I really accept being an officer of the LKEIA? What if my inexperience shown through? What if I failed as an officer? At least as an enlisted rank, any mess-up could be pointed to as inexperience to some degree. I told John Spencer-Talleyrand, the Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time, that I would need time. So I thought about it... The thought that got me to access were two: What if this is my one and only chance at accepting and I was personally asked, I didn't apply for it. I was promoted to Guard Corporal Major on May 5th, 2021. To be promoted to the full officer rank of Captain (as opposed to the warrant officer rank I had) I had, I had to successfully lead my first operation. The target was the region of Dacia. The point nation was my very first Imperial Army puppet: Grestaltatse. It was that raid I found out that time is actually slower than I perceived it; a thirty second trigger was WAY too long. Dacia got defended by the army named TITO. My initial worries were coming back to me. Not only had I virtually opened the door to defenders and then welcomed them in, it was one of the slowest defender groups that defended it. That major was a failure. Twelve hours later, I tried again. Same point nation. The target was the region of Doge Republic. This was the minor update. No one had told me that the minor update loves to update regions earlier than before the major. There I was off doing something else waiting for the seven minute mark so I could start watching for the time to jump... the target updated ten minutes earlier than it had in the major. After that minor, I temporarily changed my name to Victor Stevenson von Arcadia-Sova from Zecheriah Stevenson. After all, you can't have a victory without a Victor. Twenty-four hours after the attempt to raid Dacia, same target and point as the minor... "Go." "Hit." I had led a successful raid. "Third time's a charm and an almost heart attack," I said on the server after succeeding. From those three raids, I got promoted to Captain on May 8th. I got a perpetual fear that the targets of whatever raid I am leading will update ten minutes early and that defenders can make a zero second trigger most of the time. And, I watched Dacia until its last nation ceased to exist nearly a month later. (When all my puppets are in a non-CTE state, it makes a great puppet storage. Luckily, I don't let Grestaltatse CTE often.) And from there I would lead repeated raids almost every other day... (until a tag of Greater Cyngland did the most beautiful u-turn in the history of luck turning around around June 10th.) I didn't lead many operations after that; my next raid being more towards Foundation Day.

As you can tell, what I have to say concerns a decision that is obviously not being taken lightly by me. Through all of what I just said, I stoically took everything. Any disagreement was a non-serious attempt to persuade, but ultimately I would have said publicly I support any decision made by those higher than myself even if I did not agree with it. However, recent events have rendered it impossible for me to remain stoic. Following the completely disgraceful, spineless, and dishonorable retreat from A Liberal Haven in January, I began questioning my stoicism, but ultimately, if you asked me publicly, I would have said, "I support this." However, pairing that with the latest change ordered by His Supreme Majesty, a line has been crossed that I can not bite my tongue and say "I support this" publicly. A Liberal Haven was toeing the line thought impossible to cross. This change is completely out of line. It is so out of line that bringing up my problems with it would not be enough. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot be the Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot in good faith remain a member of the Imperial Army. Sorry. No. After something as out of line as the change, throwing away what I have accomplished, throwing away the accomplishment I am most proud of, is easier than saying "I support this."

Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army's Imperial Command.
Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army itself.


Next, here is what I wrote to the Retired Emperor Sequentia of the LKE on the 25th following my banning from the LKE:

Before I say anything to explain my side of the story because I doubt that Onder, NES, and Felix won't edit or delete my posts so only their false story remains, I would like to say that I remain loyal to the LKE and always will be, but to the three main autocrats, I do not.

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Let me start with the beginning of the story. The beginning of the story was our joining the raid on A Liberal Haven. Onder said that the reason we left early was "an imperialist power standing up for ourselves - with courage and honour." What is honorable about cowardice? You might say it wasn't cowardice, but I ask you, how did everyone participating in the raid perceive it? It sure wasn't a perception of courage and honor. The LKE Imperial Army is viewed as a shadow of its former self. When was the last time the LKE ran a raid that wasn't Grand Abbeyverne Republic? By leaving the operation early, the Imperial Army only digs the hole deeper. It is because the hole was dug deeper that the military was demoralized. Contrary to the story the three (Onder, NES, and Felix) want to tell, Osiris may have played a role in our leaving it early, but it was the proving Osiris right perception-wise that was the reason for the general discontentment in the opinions on withdrawing.

The second piece of the story was The League's declaration of war on the Brotherhood of Malice, Osiris, Lone Wolves United, and The Black Hawks. Following this, all operations with the later two now had to be approved by Felix or a Field Marshal. The LKE may be independent, but does anyone that was in it a week ago know how to defend well without the keyboard scripts used such as Breeze? Did anyone in it even know how to defend regardless? No. Everyone only knew how to raid. Can a ten-unit army stand a chance in an occupation? No. They'll be covered in defenders three-to-one the next update. By squeezing who the Imperial Army can raid with, the list of operations available grew short. This piece was never brought up because it is in Habsburg Castle.

The last piece was the rule change that prevented LKE units from participating in operations with those on the proscribed list, the Brotherhood of Malice, with LWU and TBH being more restricted than before. At first glance, the rule change seems like common sense, but when digging deeper, one finds that it oversteps. It wasn't referring to the Imperial Army no longer participating in such operations; it was also referring to operations when flying the flag of Kantrias, of Europeia, of LWU, and all the other militaries that LKE units were a part of. It makes sense that the Imperial Army wouldn't. Everyone agreed with the previous sentence for most situations. A situation where we didn't is, for example, the major after this telegram is sent, an ANTIFA raid will be held against the region of Sanctum. According to the new rule, soldiers of the Imperial Army would not be able to participate in an anti-fascist raid even as members of pick-a-region. However, the latter was completely unacceptable. Now, why were we apart of other militaries? I first joined EPSA (East Pacific Sovereign Army) because the Imperial Army wasn't active enough. One simple tag operation in the name of the LKE every one to three months isn't exactly active. I later switched to LWU because EPSA became just as inactive, and if it participated in operations, they were defender ones (I chased one time as part of an EPSA training op. I hated it (and they stressed script usage for defender operations). I still wouldn't know how you begin a chase in non-training circumstances nor how to lead a chase training or not.).

Following the third piece, we began to resign. Valfor resigned almost immediately. Raeliana, Rose, and Astrid toyed with the idea of resigning but wished to wait and see. I was the last to toy with the idea. It pained me immensely to do so, but I could not in good faith continue to be a member of it while there existed restrictions like the above that came into existence for no good reason besides power-lust. What followed was a showing that you were the one keeping Imperial House power-lust at bay: every post by one of the three regarding the resignations is a lie. Every post propaganda for the twisted story they wanted to tell. They cherry-picked my resignation speech for pieces that without context told the tale they wanted. Then towards the end, they had the gall to call me the leader of mass resignation with no proof besides me providing the full versions of what they were cherry-picking for electors to form an educated opinion rather than having a corrupt story. They call it leaking. I call it proving autocratic propaganda wrong. I acknowledge that Provision II of the Loyalty Act exists, but I refuse to drink the cool-aid of those slandering my name with twisted interpretations. They even continue to do so but by twisting the words of the former elector, Rose. If Rose, Valfor, and Raeliana meant what they had signed, why was that the last straw for both Astrid and Rose? For surely if they meant it, they would have stayed. Below, you will find either the code or a screenshot that Jim Jones and his black-shirts have likely edited or deleted by now. Astrid even told me that she had been threatened no less than five times by Felix.

Felix's Threats Existence as Admitted by Astrid: https://ibb.co/JCxhjN0


Now would anyone care to explain to me how one gets any sort of conspiracy out my telegram to the Retired Emperor Sequentia or my resignation speech?

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Postby Dawn Denac » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:02 pm

Gankands wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


I am formerly the LKE Imperial Army's Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. I resigned on the 23rd and on the 25th, became the first one that was kicked out the door. First, Onder accused us of working with Osiris, that it was an Osirian(?) plot. Later, when they started to do things like cherry-pick my resignation speech from the Imperial Army, I revealed all of what they had been cherry-picking from. The response from the Emperor didn't have anything to do with Osiris. It claimed that I was the originator of the plot and sowed discontent with no mention of Osiris! You can both that particular post and my response to it here: https://i.ibb.co/bg0tJyG/FEC0675-C-C52-D-4-C64-B3-EB-A90-D5-EAE48-C2.jpg. Later, after being pressured by the Imperial House, the Khan of LWU wrote this: https://i.ibb.co/G5Rjc5w/image.png. This making it sort-of a LWU plot. Now, it is a Brotherhood of Malice plot? They had no evidence for any of this and they keep changing the story. What that tells me is that the LKE is lying.

Here is my resignation speech from the Imperial Army:

On December 1st, 2020, I applied to join the Imperial Army. Almost exactly twenty minutes after I applied, my application was accepted by Valfor Talleyrand who was Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time. While I had been an elector since August 28th, 2020, and applied for the roleplay map, I was very much an elector just in title. Even I don't know how I didn't lose elector status for 28-day forum inactivity during that period. However, my applying to the Imperial Army that 1st of December was a small step towards becoming the elector I am now. It was the first thing I had ever done for the region.

I started as a lowly Private. I remember that of the operations that month, I only joined one: the delegate transition in Europeia that resulted in its current delegate taking the position. The puppet I used for that operation was Grestaltatse. My first official operation, however, was a five puppet tag raid led by the Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand and Captain Wilhelm Cransnikov as a second non-point updater on January 10th, 2021: Claninar, Crypolo, Hokaistan, Paphia, and Unia Terius. I remember the awkwardness of it. I had read the manual. I had looked over the procedure for prior raids on the server. Still I was asking questions on how to raid right up until the time of the first jump. Somehow, we successfully tagged all five. After the second operation, as part of the initial raiding party to occupy the region of Alnobia alongside Valfor, I got promoted to Corporal alongside Azrael Dreemurr in his first attempt at participation who got promoted to Lance Corporal. It was January 17th, 2021. The start of great things...

April 3rd, I was promoted to Sergeant. Come May, I was asked if I wished to attempt to become an officer. I had a delay at first. There were bits I was still learning about how to raid. Could I really accept being an officer of the LKEIA? What if my inexperience shown through? What if I failed as an officer? At least as an enlisted rank, any mess-up could be pointed to as inexperience to some degree. I told John Spencer-Talleyrand, the Chief of Imperial General Staff at the time, that I would need time. So I thought about it... The thought that got me to access were two: What if this is my one and only chance at accepting and I was personally asked, I didn't apply for it. I was promoted to Guard Corporal Major on May 5th, 2021. To be promoted to the full officer rank of Captain (as opposed to the warrant officer rank I had) I had, I had to successfully lead my first operation. The target was the region of Dacia. The point nation was my very first Imperial Army puppet: Grestaltatse. It was that raid I found out that time is actually slower than I perceived it; a thirty second trigger was WAY too long. Dacia got defended by the army named TITO. My initial worries were coming back to me. Not only had I virtually opened the door to defenders and then welcomed them in, it was one of the slowest defender groups that defended it. That major was a failure. Twelve hours later, I tried again. Same point nation. The target was the region of Doge Republic. This was the minor update. No one had told me that the minor update loves to update regions earlier than before the major. There I was off doing something else waiting for the seven minute mark so I could start watching for the time to jump... the target updated ten minutes earlier than it had in the major. After that minor, I temporarily changed my name to Victor Stevenson von Arcadia-Sova from Zecheriah Stevenson. After all, you can't have a victory without a Victor. Twenty-four hours after the attempt to raid Dacia, same target and point as the minor... "Go." "Hit." I had led a successful raid. "Third time's a charm and an almost heart attack," I said on the server after succeeding. From those three raids, I got promoted to Captain on May 8th. I got a perpetual fear that the targets of whatever raid I am leading will update ten minutes early and that defenders can make a zero second trigger most of the time. And, I watched Dacia until its last nation ceased to exist nearly a month later. (When all my puppets are in a non-CTE state, it makes a great puppet storage. Luckily, I don't let Grestaltatse CTE often.) And from there I would lead repeated raids almost every other day... (until a tag of Greater Cyngland did the most beautiful u-turn in the history of luck turning around around June 10th.) I didn't lead many operations after that; my next raid being more towards Foundation Day.

As you can tell, what I have to say concerns a decision that is obviously not being taken lightly by me. Through all of what I just said, I stoically took everything. Any disagreement was a non-serious attempt to persuade, but ultimately I would have said publicly I support any decision made by those higher than myself even if I did not agree with it. However, recent events have rendered it impossible for me to remain stoic. Following the completely disgraceful, spineless, and dishonorable retreat from A Liberal Haven in January, I began questioning my stoicism, but ultimately, if you asked me publicly, I would have said, "I support this." However, pairing that with the latest change ordered by His Supreme Majesty, a line has been crossed that I can not bite my tongue and say "I support this" publicly. A Liberal Haven was toeing the line thought impossible to cross. This change is completely out of line. It is so out of line that bringing up my problems with it would not be enough. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot be the Deputy Chief of Imperial General Staff. Following something this out of line, as much as it hurts to say it, I cannot in good faith remain a member of the Imperial Army. Sorry. No. After something as out of line as the change, throwing away what I have accomplished, throwing away the accomplishment I am most proud of, is easier than saying "I support this."

Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army's Imperial Command.
Effective immediately, I am no longer a member of the Imperial Army itself.


Next, here is what I wrote to the Retired Emperor Sequentia of the LKE on the 25th following my banning from the LKE:

Before I say anything to explain my side of the story because I doubt that Onder, NES, and Felix won't edit or delete my posts so only their false story remains, I would like to say that I remain loyal to the LKE and always will be, but to the three main autocrats, I do not.

-

Let me start with the beginning of the story. The beginning of the story was our joining the raid on A Liberal Haven. Onder said that the reason we left early was "an imperialist power standing up for ourselves - with courage and honour." What is honorable about cowardice? You might say it wasn't cowardice, but I ask you, how did everyone participating in the raid perceive it? It sure wasn't a perception of courage and honor. The LKE Imperial Army is viewed as a shadow of its former self. When was the last time the LKE ran a raid that wasn't Grand Abbeyverne Republic? By leaving the operation early, the Imperial Army only digs the hole deeper. It is because the hole was dug deeper that the military was demoralized. Contrary to the story the three (Onder, NES, and Felix) want to tell, Osiris may have played a role in our leaving it early, but it was the proving Osiris right perception-wise that was the reason for the general discontentment in the opinions on withdrawing.

The second piece of the story was The League's declaration of war on the Brotherhood of Malice, Osiris, Lone Wolves United, and The Black Hawks. Following this, all operations with the later two now had to be approved by Felix or a Field Marshal. The LKE may be independent, but does anyone that was in it a week ago know how to defend well without the keyboard scripts used such as Breeze? Did anyone in it even know how to defend regardless? No. Everyone only knew how to raid. Can a ten-unit army stand a chance in an occupation? No. They'll be covered in defenders three-to-one the next update. By squeezing who the Imperial Army can raid with, the list of operations available grew short. This piece was never brought up because it is in Habsburg Castle.

The last piece was the rule change that prevented LKE units from participating in operations with those on the proscribed list, the Brotherhood of Malice, with LWU and TBH being more restricted than before. At first glance, the rule change seems like common sense, but when digging deeper, one finds that it oversteps. It wasn't referring to the Imperial Army no longer participating in such operations; it was also referring to operations when flying the flag of Kantrias, of Europeia, of LWU, and all the other militaries that LKE units were a part of. It makes sense that the Imperial Army wouldn't. Everyone agreed with the previous sentence for most situations. A situation where we didn't is, for example, the major after this telegram is sent, an ANTIFA raid will be held against the region of Sanctum. According to the new rule, soldiers of the Imperial Army would not be able to participate in an anti-fascist raid even as members of pick-a-region. However, the latter was completely unacceptable. Now, why were we apart of other militaries? I first joined EPSA (East Pacific Sovereign Army) because the Imperial Army wasn't active enough. One simple tag operation in the name of the LKE every one to three months isn't exactly active. I later switched to LWU because EPSA became just as inactive, and if it participated in operations, they were defender ones (I chased one time as part of an EPSA training op. I hated it (and they stressed script usage for defender operations). I still wouldn't know how you begin a chase in non-training circumstances nor how to lead a chase training or not.).

Following the third piece, we began to resign. Valfor resigned almost immediately. Raeliana, Rose, and Astrid toyed with the idea of resigning but wished to wait and see. I was the last to toy with the idea. It pained me immensely to do so, but I could not in good faith continue to be a member of it while there existed restrictions like the above that came into existence for no good reason besides power-lust. What followed was a showing that you were the one keeping Imperial House power-lust at bay: every post by one of the three regarding the resignations is a lie. Every post propaganda for the twisted story they wanted to tell. They cherry-picked my resignation speech for pieces that without context told the tale they wanted. Then towards the end, they had the gall to call me the leader of mass resignation with no proof besides me providing the full versions of what they were cherry-picking for electors to form an educated opinion rather than having a corrupt story. They call it leaking. I call it proving autocratic propaganda wrong. I acknowledge that Provision II of the Loyalty Act exists, but I refuse to drink the cool-aid of those slandering my name with twisted interpretations. They even continue to do so but by twisting the words of the former elector, Rose. If Rose, Valfor, and Raeliana meant what they had signed, why was that the last straw for both Astrid and Rose? For surely if they meant it, they would have stayed. Below, you will find either the code or a screenshot that Jim Jones and his black-shirts have likely edited or deleted by now. Astrid even told me that she had been threatened no less than five times by Felix.

Felix's Threats Existence as Admitted by Astrid: https://ibb.co/JCxhjN0


Now would anyone care to explain to me how one gets any sort of conspiracy out my telegram to the Retired Emperor Sequentia or my resignation speech?


Thank you for posting, Gankands. This is extremely enlightening and concerning information.
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Postby Altino » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:41 pm

Congratulations, ladies. :) You love to see it.
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Postby Dawn Denac » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:19 pm

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Would you look at that? Consequences for speaking up or questioning your government's current state.

Why does Europeia associate itself with LKE as an ally? Or do you guys just not particularly care and are going to ignore these things as long as they bring pilers?
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:25 pm

Dawn Denac wrote:(Image)

Would you look at that? Consequences for speaking up or questioning your government's current state.

Why does Europeia associate itself with LKE as an ally? Or do you guys just not particularly care and are going to ignore these things as long as they bring pilers?


... That was their delegate, too.
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Postby The Universe World » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 pm

I’m sorry literally four different high-ranking officials, I never meant to hurt youuuu, but tonight, I’m cleaning out my la-and.
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:32 pm

Since when have raiders ever been flag-bearers of due process and the rule of law?

And I thought you all were performative before. I doubt the LKE-Europeia alliance will be so shaken by your insincere and supposed concerns.
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Postby Mauroa » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:33 pm

Dominion of Acielon wrote:
Kazaman wrote:
The foreign interests Onder refers to are BoM's leadership.

I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


Looks like you were right. You probably weren't expecting a banject though, lmao. Can't stand authoritarian regions who conduct themselves like that.
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Postby Matthew the Man » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:33 pm

Mauroa wrote:
Dominion of Acielon wrote:I will probably face consequences for this in the LKE, but I don't see any evidence provided for BoMs involvement. What I see is a theory for which there is no evidence seen. What proof is there that this was foreign-orchestrated? It could as well be that the concerned individual*s acted on their own.


Looks like you were right. You probably weren't expecting a banject though, lmao. Can't stand authoritarian regions who conduct themselves like that.

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