Europeian Embassy - In Solidarity

[Killer Kitty]

lolwut

[Cormactopia Prime]

This is really sad on Europeia's part. I hope no one will take your commitments seriously in the future.

[Severisen]

I found a picture of the speech.

[King HEM]

This is really sad on Europeia's part. I hope no one will take your commitments seriously in the future.

It was a war, not a marriage lol

[Cataluna]

I found a picture of the speech.

(Image)

At least George Bush got oil out of the deal.

[Grater Tovakia]

So you withdraw before the Senate passes anything?

That seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things

[Austerain]

Methinks that Cormac is just mad because other regions may follow suit in questioning what else APC can do in the effort against NPO at this point, surely he isn't personally invested?

[Grater Tovakia]

Methinks that Cormac is just mad because other regions may follow suit in questioning what else APC can do in the effort against NPO at this point, surely he isn't personally invested?

The APC can do a lot, and most other regions have guts to finish what they started.

[King HEM]

Methinks that Cormac is just mad because other regions may follow suit in questioning what else APC can do in the effort against NPO at this point, surely he isn't personally invested?

The APC can do a lot, and most other regions have guts to finish what they started.

The "guts" to do what?

What guts does it take to stay in a war that is universally popular, but where there are few if any offensive actions still to take?

[The Pharcyde]

So you withdraw before the Senate passes anything?

That seems like an ass-backwards way of doing things

It's to preempt leaks. I was confused at first myself.

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

The APC can do a lot, and most other regions have guts to finish what they started.

The "guts" to do what?

What guts does it take to stay in a war that is universally popular, but where there are few if any offensive actions still to take?

You really thought that kicking the NPO out of St Abbadon would be enough?

Actions such as this are why the NPO's victory was obvious from the start.

[King HEM]

The "guts" to do what?

What guts does it take to stay in a war that is universally popular, but where there are few if any offensive actions still to take?

You really thought that kicking the NPO out of St Abbadon would be enough?

Actions such as this are why the NPO's victory was obvious from the start.

This whole discussion is really weird.

Europeia was the first region to declare war. We didn't follow anyone's lead or attach ourselves to anyone else's manifesto.

Here's what it comes down to:

Since the pressure campaign and the war, the New Pacific Order has objectively, transformed. For some players, those transformations won't be enough and instead, they will seek the deconstruction of the entire regime. That's a perfectly fair opinion to have, and every region should feel empowered to fight for that if that's what they believe in.

That was never Europeia's objective. Our objectives have been met, hence our victory. If they aren't sufficient objectives for you, then stop wasting time chiding us and go fight the damn war lol

[Tim-Opolis]

Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the presidency.

This is just cringe.

[King HEM]

Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the presidency.

This is just cringe.

the presidency doesn't exist anymore, keep up bb

[Tim-Opolis]

Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the presidency.

This is just cringe.

the presidency doesn't exist anymore, keep up bb

I don't keep up with Imperialist stuff, sue me

Let me re-state. Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the chief of state.

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

You really thought that kicking the NPO out of St Abbadon would be enough?

Actions such as this are why the NPO's victory was obvious from the start.

This whole discussion is really weird.

Europeia was the first region to declare war. We didn't follow anyone's lead or attach ourselves to anyone else's manifesto.

Here's what it comes down to:

Since the pressure campaign and the war, the New Pacific Order has objectively, transformed. For some players, those transformations won't be enough and instead, they will seek the deconstruction of the entire regime. That's a perfectly fair opinion to have, and every region should feel empowered to fight for that if that's what they believe in.

That was never Europeia's objective. Our objectives have been met, hence our victory. If they aren't sufficient objectives for you, then stop wasting time chiding us and go fight the damn war lol

Your war declaration literally said that the NPO cannot coexist with Europeia. Are you trying to tell me that the NPO currently doesn't exist?

[King HEM]

the presidency doesn't exist anymore, keep up bb

I don't keep up with Imperialist stuff, sue me

Let me re-state. Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the chief of state.

[USS Merrimack]

I don't keep up with Imperialist stuff, sue me

Let me re-state. Europeia should teach their noobs some PR skills before giving them the chief of state.

HEM, bby, if you’re gonna make an imgflip meme at least get your definitions right.

Anyways, I find Europeia’s air of self importance laughable, and somwhat insulting to regions like Lazarus and Osiris who were actually victimized by the NPOs actions.

[King HEM]

WHAT is the air of self-importance here?

We literally posted a statement being like, "our objectives were met and here's why" and everyone is acting like they found their s/o on grindr lol!!!

anyway!!!

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

WHAT is the air of self-importance here?

We literally posted a statement being like, "our objectives were met and here's why" and everyone is acting like they found their s/o on grindr lol!!!

anyway!!!

But your objectives weren't met...

Did your objectives change between now and when you declared war?

[Killer Kitty]

HEM you're (mostly) not being ridiculed for leaving the war.

You're being ridiculed for declaring victory in a war you very obviously did not win.

That's practically begging for mockery.

[USS Merrimack]

WHAT is the air of self-importance here?

We literally posted a statement being like, "our objectives were met and here's why" and everyone is acting like they found their s/o on grindr lol!!!

anyway!!!

“We entered this war to serve as a beacon of hope for all regions and nations suppressed by Francoism and to take the fight to those who sought to oppress us. We leave this war confident that we have won, and we have left the world better off than when it began.”

[Wycliffe]

>enters war to overthrow npo
>does not overthrow npo
>declares victory in war to overthrow npo

[King HEM]

To be clear, I'm not in any way in FA leadership at this point. So please don't take my memes or comments as official statements!!!!

BUT I don't think a speech kicking off a conflict is going to be the formal list of objectives for the war. There's a difference between a formal announcement and actual war-time objectives, and to be real, if anyone in this forum is going to claim their public remarks have never been more bombastic than their actual goals, ima gonna call that a load of BS!

Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm not sure how it's a good PR strategy for all you folks who have been in the trenches of this war openly being like, "Europeia is dumb for declaring an end to the conflict because we haven't actually accomplished ANYTHING of value or victory!!!!" Seems like actively a pretty BAD PR strategy actually.

A lot has been accomplished. Maybe it isn't enough for some—and that's fair—but it's enough for us, and we're sure as hell not going to outsource foreign policy to the public opinion in the NSGP forum // discord server lmao.

[USS Merrimack]

To be clear, I'm not in any way in FA leadership at this point. So please don't take my memes or comments as official statements!!!!

BUT I don't think a speech kicking off a conflict is going to be the formal list of objectives for the war. There's a difference between a formal announcement and actual war-time objectives, and to be real, if anyone in this forum is going to claim their public remarks have never been more bombastic than their actual goals, ima gonna call that a load of BS!

Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm not sure how it's a good PR strategy for all you folks who have been in the trenches of this war openly being like, "Europeia is dumb for declaring an end to the conflict because we haven't actually accomplished ANYTHING of value or victory!!!!" Seems like actively a pretty BAD PR strategy actually.

A lot has been accomplished. Maybe it isn't enough for some—and that's fair—but it's enough for us, and we're sure as hell not going to outsource foreign policy to the public opinion in the NSGP forum // discord server lmao.

Noted.

I’m more so reflecting on the arrogance of the speech, where Euro acts as if it were the tip of the spear.