Coalition against CAIN (CAC)

[Unnamedland]

Why do people care about the CAN Org? "Oh no dey called me da Nazi"

What CAIN can do is much more than call you Nazi. Quite a few large regions support CAIN. These regions will cut off embassies with you, prevent you from joining their RPs, etc. using "diplomatic isolation". In some cases they will even raid regions that CAIN considers Nazi.

[Cameron M Romefeller]

Why do people care about the CAN Org? "Oh no dey called me da Nazi"

What CAIN can do is much more than call you Nazi. Quite a few large regions support CAIN. These regions will cut off embassies with you, prevent you from joining their RPs, etc. using "diplomatic isolation". In some cases they will even raid regions that CAIN considers Nazi.

Or just outright ignore them and rise above, whilst pay-recruiting into the game. If you're sore because LKE won't pay any attention to the region, the game is being played incorrectly.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Freedom is Authoritarian, and cheers for the Advertisement

La Navasse, a known supporter of the so-called Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism, has made a second attempt at creating an offensive liberation against the region of Femdom Empire, where CAIN had previously failed lay siege on the courageous Feminists.

A clause within the submitted Security Council Proposal, is particular interesting to the Order of the Southern North and was brought to the attention of the founder by the Poet Laurete. It reads:

Further Disturbed by Femdom Empire’s collaboration with Authoritarian regions, or more specifically Federation of Greater German Republics, Great Empire of Great Cyan, KAISERREICH, Krumpelburg, Order of the Southern North, and Psychotic Dictatorships in the aforementioned conflict;

Let us all stop for a second, and look at how the OSN is apparently an Authoritarian Region, which having association with is apparently condemnable. That's right, apparently being associated with us is condemnable, free advertisement! Woot!
But let us all be reminded that having a Democratically elected Head of State, Laws voted on by the Entire Region, a Constitution designed to give citizens lots of freedoms and has worked splendidly is authoritarian and evil.

[Karafuto-cho]

Okay. Associating La Navasse with CAIN is just a low-blow on CAIN.

[The Indo-Malaysian Consulate]

Okay. Associating La Navasse with CAIN is just a low-blow on CAIN.

Even CAIN have made it quite clear to Navasse that he is.. well..

But Navasse still tries to associate with the Organisation

[Karafuto-cho]

Okay. Associating La Navasse with CAIN is just a low-blow on CAIN.

Even CAIN have made it quite clear to Navasse that he is.. well..

But Navasse still tries to associate with the Organisation

It's like the little kid trying to follow around his older brother. Come on, man.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Okay. Associating La Navasse with CAIN is just a low-blow on CAIN.

Even CAIN have made it quite clear to Navasse that he is.. well..

But Navasse still tries to associate with the Organisation

Then CAIN obviously hasn't made the message clear enough. That's on them, not Navasse.

[Tim-Opolis]

La Navasse is not a member of any military forces which are a member of CAIN. None of his regions are CAIN signatories.

There's nothing more to be said.

[Aclion]

Okay. Associating La Navasse with CAIN is just a low-blow on CAIN.

Their rhetoric is similar enough that I can understand the association. Especially given that the reason for the condemnation is that Femdom successfully defended itself from CAIN

Or just outright ignore them and rise above

[Cerian Quilor]

KR is labeled a target of CAIN because it works with Nazi regions. CAIN is not just about going at Nazis directly, but about politically, diplomatically and militarily isolating them.

It's pretty straightforward.

[Aclion]

KR is labeled a target of CAIN because it works with Nazi regions. CAIN is not just about going at Nazis directly, but about politically, diplomatically and militarily isolating them.

It's pretty straightforward.

The great irony being that giving half of nationstates a common enemy with Nazis does very little to isolate them.

[Cerian Quilor]

KR is labeled a target of CAIN because it works with Nazi regions. CAIN is not just about going at Nazis directly, but about politically, diplomatically and militarily isolating them.

It's pretty straightforward.

The great irony being that giving half of nationstates a common enemy with Nazis does very little to isolate them.

Because people like this group insist on defending the Nazis friends. There was a time when Nazi regions had few allies outside of other Nazi regions.

[The Indo-Malaysian Consulate]

KR is labeled a target of CAIN because it works with Nazi regions. CAIN is not just about going at Nazis directly, but about politically, diplomatically and militarily isolating them.

It's pretty straightforward.

The great irony being that giving half of nationstates a common enemy with Nazis does very little to isolate them.

One half is "I h8 Nazis" and the others are "I h8 cain". We are the other half.

[Escape from Trump]

I think there should be a Coalition Against Ideological Raiding. CAIR! It's "CARE", just, misspelled!
Seriously speaking, I agree with most points made in the OP (KAISERREICH is just imperialist and embassy-collecters aren't collaboraters), except the one saying that National Socialist Ministries is OK, since there factbook claims to be "Anti-racist". The thing is, if you check out some of there dispatches and RMB posts, you'll find they have a very different idea of what's racist and what's not. Their WFE used to have a link to an article defending nazism, one of it's points being that they're not anti-semites, as they hold muslims to a high esteem. I want you to think about that for just one minute. This article also cited a "Jewish conspiracy" multiple times. Because who needs proof when you can rely on bigoted instincts, eh? For some reason, the mods took this link off the WFE...
Otherwise, I agree. The CAIN sucks.

[Unibot III]

Is it just me or is Nazi Europa fucking enormous compared to where it used to be prior to CAIN? It's the sixteenth biggest region in the game.

Sixty endos and 520 nations reminds me of Nazi Europe at the height of the last War on Nazis in 2013.

[Wisgothistan]

They've been steadily growing for the last several months, but they were usually in the mid 20s. My guess would be Nazis centralizing, to keep safe.

[CoraSpia]

Is it just me or is Nazi Europa fucking enormous compared to where it used to be prior to CAIN? It's the sixteenth biggest region in the game.

Sixty endos and 520 nations reminds me of Nazi Europe at the height of the last War on Nazis in 2013.

At that time we still had the ggr as well though.

[Caelapes]

Is it just me or is Nazi Europa fucking enormous compared to where it used to be prior to CAIN? It's the sixteenth biggest region in the game.

Sixty endos and 520 nations reminds me of Nazi Europe at the height of the last War on Nazis in 2013.

They had 800 nations this time last year. CAIN didn't start until October.

[LollerLand]

The great irony being that giving half of nationstates a common enemy with Nazis does very little to isolate them.

One half is "I h8 Nazis" and the others are "I h8 cain". We are the other half.

So you are against people who hate Nazis huh? That says a lot about you..

[Consular]

If you're implying CAIN has caused Nazi Europa to grow Unibot, that's not my impression at all. It seems rather that the population and activity of Nazi regions ebbs from time to time on its own, regardless of anti Nazi activity. At worst; we have no impact on them at all. But we aren't making the problem worse.

[CoraSpia]

One half is "I h8 Nazis" and the others are "I h8 cain". We are the other half.

So you are against people who hate Nazis huh? That says a lot about you..

I can't speak for him/her, but the reason I'm against CAIN is that it's an organisation that only raids for ideological reasons, and comes very close to harassing its enemies. Every person who believes that everyone has a right to play the game free from harassment should be against cain.

[Indo-Malaysia]

One half is "I h8 Nazis" and the others are "I h8 cain". We are the other half.

So you are against people who hate Nazis huh? That says a lot about you..

No. I hate hypocritical bureaucracies that use outdated information as an excuse to raid innocent regions.

[LollerLand]

So you are against people who hate Nazis huh? That says a lot about you..

I can't speak for him/her, but the reason I'm against CAIN is that it's an organisation that only raids for ideological reasons, and comes very close to harassing its enemies. Every person who believes that everyone has a right to play the game free from harassment should be against cain.

Everyone has a right to play this game, except the Nazis whose ideology itself calls for discrimination and harassment based on race and religion. And if you think Nazis should be allowed to thrive in NS I have nothing more to say to you since we will never see you eye to eye in this topic.

[Drop Your Pants]

And if you think Nazis should be allowed to thrive in NS I have nothing more to say to you since we will never see you eye to eye in this topic.

Happily its not up to us, it's Max's game and we're just along for the ride.

[Emericia]

Strange thing is, every one-party so-called "Communist" region based off of the USSR, isn't Communist; that would be a blatant lie. This includes The Communist Bloc and USSD. They are all right-wingers due to their authoritarian government and little political freedoms, which are NOT COMMUNIST IDEALS. That form of government is simply Stalinism and Maoism: One-Party Authoritative Pseudo-Communist States that spoil the real image of Communism and generally make their side look worse.

Clearly you have done little research on the actual function of these regions, or at least the Communist Bloc. As a recently ELECTED member of the Central Committee of the Communist Bloc, I feel I have to point some things out.
While the Communist Bloc has a similar government structure to the USSR, this is pretty much where the similarities end.
The Communist Bloc at least has free and open elections, I should know, I ran in them. People are free to speak out against the government and frequently do (a good example of this is the failed Government Transparency Act which was shot to bits by both the public and the Central Committee). Stalinists are a minority with the Communist Bloc (and are normally shouted down by the anarchists and the Trotskyists). Honestly would of it been hard to actually look into these things.

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So you are against people who hate Nazis huh? That says a lot about you..

I can't speak for him/her, but the reason I'm against CAIN is that it's an organisation that only raids for ideological reasons, and comes very close to harassing its enemies. Every person who believes that everyone has a right to play the game free from harassment should be against cain.

CAIN is one of the biggest Coalitions against X thing (at least that I know of), which I believe is a sign that a large majority of nations think Nazism is abhorrent. CAIN has had its flaws, most notable KAISERRICH and the Femdom Empire (As far as I can tell, prior to CAIN involvement Femdom Empire actively collaborated with Nazis). So instead of opposing CAIN, perhaps it would be better to try and make it being the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism, rather than the Coalition Against Stuff us Communists Don't Like.