The Red Fleet · Admiralty Board Changes Announced

[West Leas Oros]

Wait, souls was talking about himself? Oh. Also, I don’t agree with TRE, but I find it stupid how TRF can claim to be good guys despite their own bad actions. They use special pleading so that they can do anything and still be the good guys, but if anybody else does something wrong, then they are bad. TRF is exempt from the rules because they are the “good guys”

What are some examples of TRF's bad actions?

Many of their unprovoked raids of non fascists come to mind... but don’t ask me. Ask the people who’s regions were crushed by Red Fleet invaders. They are the ones who have all the reasons to hate them.

[Reploid Productions]

And what makes you the good guys? Bad guys can hate other bad guys and that doesn’t make them the good guys. Except to you, you are the good guys because the rules don’t apply to you. You can claim special pleading and the crowd follows you.

And in the here and now, he remains the leader of a fanatical military group that has been exerting its totalitarian rule over the rest of us.

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

I bet TRF wouldn’t be opposed to murder, after all, We ArE tHe gOoD GuYs!

Your jets. You need to cool them. You are getting excessively worked up and moving beyond harmless smack-talking into open and blatant flaming/flamebaiting. Obviously, you do not like Misley/TRF. Utilize your Foe list accordingly if a particular user's rule-abiding posts send you into a rage. Please review the site rules at your earliest convenience.

Given your inability to control your conduct with regards to this topic, particularly with regards to harassing Misley, *** West Leas Oros, 7-day ban for flaming/flamebaiting. ***

TRF is exempt from the rules because they are the “good guys”

No one is "exempt" from the site rules. If you believe that TRF members are violating the site rules these are the places for your accusations.


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

[Kawaii Schoolgirl]

Many of their unprovoked raids of non fascists come to mind... but don’t ask me. Ask the people who’s regions were crushed by Red Fleet invaders. They are the ones who have all the reasons to hate them.

It's likely that those regions supported fascism, either because they were found out to be propagating the ideology in secret, or they supported other regions who did openly align themselves as such, which in turn, means supporting the ideology. From what I know, TRF seeks to eliminate all forms of fascism on Nationstates, whether the regions targeted have openly declared themselves as fascist, or if they have been found out to support it in guise. I support their cause in doing what is necessary to fight the propagation of this ideology.

Also, not that it really matters, but if they're are just out there raiding for the sake of raiding, there's really no harm in that, and it does not by any means equate them to the likes of those in TRE by a long shot. Raiding is a mechanic in the game, and if they choose to utilize it, more power to them.

[RiderSyl]

Going back, it reads like WLO thought Tim and Souls were both TRF peeps.

[Caelapes]

What if they are, and they just don't know it?

[Aclion]

Y'alls know my thoughts on TRF. But it's really concerning that certain individuals seek to turn a discussion which should be about the transphobia and hatred in TRE into a discussion of Misley's past. It's sort of sickening. Now is not the time.

It is exactly the right time. What better time is there to cull abuse in our regions then right after announcing that we wont be tolerating it in others? To fail to do so is the height of hypocrisy. The fact that regions haven't done so tells me they never cared about abuse in the first place.

[Blood Wine]

Y'alls know my thoughts on TRF. But it's really concerning that certain individuals seek to turn a discussion which should be about the transphobia and hatred in TRE into a discussion of Misley's past. It's sort of sickening. Now is not the time.

On the bright side, most other threads in the TRE saga are full of condemnation and disgust at TREs nonpology

[RiderSyl]

The fact that regions haven't done so tells me they never cared about abuse in the first place.

To paraphrase...

"These regions haven't blacklisted this region that I think is horrible, so they don't care about what TRE did!"

Just leave your keyboard and don't come back, Aclion

[Aclion]

The fact that regions haven't done so tells me they never cared about abuse in the first place.

To paraphrase...

"These regions haven't blacklisted this region that I think is horrible, so they don't care about what TRE did!"

Just leave your keyboard and don't come back, Aclion

If by paraphrase you mean completely distort. I'm not saying anything of the sort. I'm saying that regions that still keep abusive people around deserve no praise for criticizing other regions. You should probably try reading posts before replying to them.

[Caelapes]

The Red Fleet swipes National Socialist Angvar

In a daring raid on a region with an active founder, The Red Fleet has succeeded in refounding National Socialist Angvar from under the nose of the fash. Despite a watchful observer alerting the residents of Angvar to the Fleet’s raid nearly two days ago and bringing it to the attention of Angvar natives on their home RMB, the only action taken was to suppress this warning post.

National Socialist Angvar will take a place on The Red Fleet’s trophy shelf, with an empty spot beside for the future acquisition of Angvar itself.

Pax ignescens!

[Malphe]

I thought you refounded Angvar itself for a second there. Still, good job.

[Blood Wine]

Not even a link to the region or fancy pictures? meh bad reporting

[Caelapes]

The Red Fleet descends arm-in-arm with comrades to free Union of Socialists from Nazi control

Marine Update Task Force
Huey P. Newton Squadron
Fleet Admiral Caelapes
Squadron Admiral Proletaire
Petty Officer Ratateague
Senior Sailor Communistico
Sailor Wileyshire

Sankara Squadron
Squadron Admiral Freien
Captain Asturies-Llion
Lieutenant Zenganopoli

with assistance from 7 comrades from AIR, DKA, TGW, NSIDC, RRA, and SPSF
I don't know all y'all's names, sorry

Four days ago, Nazis from Farkasfalka and other fash hiding holes emerged to seize the WA Delegate seat of Union of Socialists, a region that at its largest held 16 nations, but had dwindled to the point that only one native nation remained.

Deploying a bold strategy, Farkasfalka began withdrawing troops from the region without the protection of a password, hoping to refound the region at major update. Crack troops from The Red Fleet watched these movements and prepared a liberation force before being alerted to a defender force also gathering to liberate the region. The Red Fleet offered the use of its jump point, Communist, to the united front. An impromptu call to arms gathered fifteen troops, eight from The Red Fleet and seven from allied anti-fascist militaries, to make the initial jump.

Caught off guard, Farkasfalkan troops were sent packing. One fash native remarked, astonished at the absolute precision of The Red Fleet and friends, "How on gods green earth did they take it back"

The power of solidarity was clearly on display today. Thanks to our comrades-in-arms who made the jump with us to give fash the boot.

In addition to the above success, we would like to celebrate the promotion of comrade Ratateague to Petty Officer, and the promotions of comrades World Anarchic Union, Communistico, and The Hyacinth Flower to Senior Sailor! Rum rations provided all around!

Pax ignescens!

[Trabardia]

Good job to the comrades in the Red Fleet for protecting leftist regions from the Nazi menace.

[Vungar]

(Image)

The Red Fleet descends arm-in-arm with comrades to free Union of Socialists from Nazi control

Marine Update Task Force
Huey P. Newton Squadron
Fleet Admiral Caelapes
Squadron Admiral Proletaire
Petty Officer Ratateague
Senior Sailor Communistico
Sailor Wileyshire

Sankara Squadron
Squadron Admiral Freien
Captain Asturies-Llion
Lieutenant Zenganopoli

with assistance from 7 comrades from AIR, DKA, TGW, NSIDC, RRA, and SPSF
I don't know all y'all's names, sorry

Four days ago, Nazis from Farkasfalka and other fash hiding holes emerged to seize the WA Delegate seat of Union of Socialists, a region that at its largest held 16 nations, but had dwindled to the point that only one native nation remained.

Deploying a bold strategy, Farkasfalka began withdrawing troops from the region without the protection of a password, hoping to refound the region at major update. Crack troops from The Red Fleet watched these movements and prepared a liberation force before being alerted to a defender force also gathering to liberate the region. The Red Fleet offered the use of its jump point, Communist, to the united front. An impromptu call to arms gathered fifteen troops, eight from The Red Fleet and seven from allied anti-fascist militaries, to make the initial jump.

Caught off guard, Farkasfalkan troops were sent packing. One fash native remarked, astonished at the absolute precision of The Red Fleet and friends, "How on gods green earth did they take it back"

The power of solidarity was clearly on display today. Thanks to our comrades-in-arms who made the jump with us to give fash the boot.

In addition to the above success, we would like to celebrate the promotion of comrade Ratateague to Petty Officer, and the promotions of comrades World Anarchic Union, Communistico, and The Hyacinth Flower to Senior Sailor! Rum rations provided all around!

Pax ignescens!

1. We are not National Socialist; we are Decreeist.
2. We had 19 at the most, not 16.

I appreciate the free advertisement.

Sincerely, Lionvs Farkas Vungar

[Caelapes]

1. We are not National Socialist; we are Decreeist.

i don't really care what nazis call themselves

2. We had 19 at the most, not 16.

the region you raided had sixteen natives at the most.

I am sure you will also appreciate as free advertisement the fact that you lost seven WA multis in the leadup to what will no doubt be a pitiful attempt to retake UOS from us tonight:




Sincerely, Fleet Admiral Caelapes

[Caelapes]

...in the leadup to what will no doubt be a pitiful attempt to retake UOS from us tonight

I was right!

"4/15/2018, 8:49:10 PM EDT: Cossack Warplane 6 relocated from USSD to Union of Socialists."

This is an incredible strategy. I will be sure to have The Red Fleet move into random fascist-tagged regions and then into the target region three and a half hours before update in the future. This is sure to fool our enemies.

[RiderSyl]

A friendly tip for Vungar: Not properly training your troops and then blaming them when they do something wrong is a bad look

[Consular]

Do people forget that their RMB is public?

[Tinhampton]

...in the leadup to what will no doubt be a pitiful attempt to retake UOS from us tonight

I was right!

"4/15/2018, 8:49:10 PM EDT: Cossack Warplane 6 relocated from USSD to Union of Socialists."

This is an incredible strategy. I will be sure to have The Red Fleet move into random fascist-tagged regions and then into the target region three and a half hours before update in the future. This is sure to fool our enemies.

Yes... this idea gets even more brilliant. After all, Cossack Warplane 6 is a clean puppet, right?

[RiderSyl]

Cossack was banned from UOS after jumping from USSD to try to take it...
Now USSD has banned Cossack.

Hey NSRight and friends, in light of you guys verbally and mechanically punishing these players... Can you not wrap your heads around the idea that you're accountable for your troops being untrained and undisciplined? Or do you all just not care about all that?

[Kurnugia]

And I thought i would miss TIO!

[Bedetopia]

A pathetic display indeed. Even if someone tried to give them proper training, I don't think they'd bother following it.

[Vungar]

1. We are not National Socialist; we are Decreeist.

i don't really care what nazis call themselves

2. We had 19 at the most, not 16.

the region you raided had sixteen natives at the most.

I am sure you will also appreciate as free advertisement the fact that you lost seven WA multis in the leadup to what will no doubt be a pitiful attempt to retake UOS from us tonight:




Sincerely, Fleet Admiral Caelapes

At one point yes, we did have 19. I was the one that had the endorsements. (My second account is Arecenus.)

A pathetic display indeed. Even if someone tried to give them proper training, I don't think they'd bother following it.

My troops are a bit new at this, and UOS was a practice raid for us, since I haven’t raided in a while, along with them. Some have never even raided before! Your liberation was more coordinated and organized than ours; I will admit the obvious. Props to you.

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Did they even just willingly compare their offensive to the final offensive of Nazi Germany lol?