The Red Fleet · Admiralty Board Changes Announced

[Caelapes]

Today, The Red Fleet was prepared to again defend a leftist region. As it turned out, however, Kekistani raiding forces were so poorly-trained that they again moved in ten minutes earlier than necessary with dirty puppets that had already updated. After Fleet sailors stopped laughing, they noticed that the founder of the region in question had returned and booted the would-be raiders to the Rejected Realms.

The Red Fleet stands ready to torpedo any attempted raid of a leftist region out of the water.

[RiderSyl]

Well done! Crush those unfunny "Kekistan" peeps.

[United Massachusetts]

The Red Fleet | Hate Disguised as Love

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A Condemnation of Reckless Violence

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I think we all ought to take a moment to reflect on the actions of The Red Fleet, still regarded as the premier anti-fascist force on NationStates, one which has even been commended by the Security Council in its actions against regions such as Nazi Europe and The Greater German Reich. While these invasions are certainly positive steps for NationStates, as the signify the withering away of a hateful ideology, the Red Fleet has tarnished its reputation as the great "ruiner of Nazi sandcastles" in its other actions, showing a dark, albeit less visible side to the communistic region.

The Red Fleet and its leaders like to advertise their anti-fascist element. And rightfully so. They have been the leading anti-Nazi voice in all of NationStates, bringing great success to their operations. All of this is laudable. But according to the Red Fleet, "they [we] raid Fascist regions, and they [we] defend Leftists and any region that finds itself threatened by our enemies." This on the surface sounds great, but does this claim hold up to scrutiny? The answer is, regrettably, no. Instead, they rub their revolutionary swagger all over innocent capitalist regions, destroying communities in the name of advancing their own ideology.

Without making a statement on that ideology, let us examine the stated "policies" of the organization with regards to raiding. According to their very own "white papers," which supposedly guide their process of decision making, only regions with the "Fascist" tag and enemies of the Fleet (which is a very long list, by the way) are considered raiding targets. If we are to presume this to be the case however, we would have to overlook countless raid examples, among which include the following:

• United States 0f America: In a move that attracted much controversy, and rightfully so, the Red Fleet, along with their partners in NSLeft, invaded this roleplay region that was not involved in military gameplay because "they had embassies with US Military", a member of NSRight. The idea that an invasion of a region solely because it has an embassy with an enemy is a ridiculous standard, which would leave countless embassy collector regions open for invasion. It seems as if the only reason they really did this was because they hate Americanism, while defending their actions by fallacy of association. To top it off, they placed the flag of the real-life North Korea over the region in order to mock the roleplayers, whilst yelling about how America is worse than North Korea, apparently. Even the Red Fleet's stated policy--"Non-fascist anti-communist regions that do not involve themselves in military gameplay are not targeted"--stands in direct contradiction to this despicable raid.
• THE TRUMP WARRIORS: This region, which was not tagged as fascist, appeared to be raided based on ideological opposition to President Donald Trump, an opposition I share with them. This does not however, according to both reason and Fleet policy, provide a valid reason to wreak havoc on a region in which "You are free to share your opinion as you like even if its a anti-trump opinion as long as you do so respectfully," which clearly the Red Fleet has no idea how to do.
• New Republica: Yet again because it, a non-gameplay region which had embassies with Libertatem, it was considered an "enemy of the region," even though it was not involved in any operation to attack the Red Fleet or any of its allies. The invasion amounts to a petty attack on anyone who merely has relations with REATO, showing the Red Fleet's apparent inability to understand the purpose of an embassy.
• Slavija: Virtually the same example as above, a clear violation of Red Fleet policy.

This list goes on--we could spend all day reviewing the Red Fleet's reign of terror over innocent capitalist regions. But this will be sufficient to prove that through their military action, one finds out that their seemingly respectable policy isn't work the "white paper" it is written on. Instead, they raid any region they deem fit, at any time, in any manner they like, flaunting their communistic propaganda in the faces on regions who just asked not to be raided. Typically, the only defense of the increasing quantity of these actions has amounted to "we defeated the Nazis," bringing up an irrelevant point to draw sympathy towards their actions, whilst muddling over the darker aspects of their military policy. We shouldn't be fooled by this, but consistently, people are--if you want proof of this, look through this very thread. Regardless of what they may claim, a right does not justify another wrong; in order to live up to a commendation, for instance, a region ought to consistently walk the righteous path. To the contrary, the Red Fleet targets whatever innocent communities it wants, including the ones shown above.

The Red hypocrisy does not stop in military affairs, however. The group also used its influence in AntiFa and (formerly) in CAIN to advance its own radical ideology at the expense of those who they ought be working with to combat fascism. For example, when a long list of embassy collectors (regions who build embassies indiscriminately for exchange purposes) were added to CAIN's famed list of "Nazi Collaborators," several nations from across NationStates criticized the decision. When CAIN subsequently moved to eliminate these regions from the list, The Red Fleet voted to remove every single embassy collector except Right to Life.

By no means did Right to Life have the most egregious list of embassies--the region holds embassies with only one "Nazi" region (KAISERREICH), whose status on the list of Nazi regions has been seriously called into question by people like Cresenthia and Christian Democrats. Look down the embassy list for the Bar at the Corner of Every Region, for example. In fact, there was no reason for anyone in Right to Life to be considered Nazi. In fact, the only Nazi to ever join the region was and was subsequently banned from Right to Life and declared Delete on Sight. There have been precisely zero reports of Nazi sympathizers in the region. Nevertheless, the Red Fleet voted against removing the region from the list, while doing so for every other region on the list.

What caused the Red Fleet to do so? Well, perhaps its policies can provide us a reason for this while the region itself has not. The Red Fleet, according to Caelapes, maintains a clandestine list of "unraidable targets," which they desperately wished to raid to cause harm to. This functions like the Fleet's "top secret hit list," on which includes Right to Life among several other non-fascist regions. The Fleet clearly is a political opponent of the Right to Life, resulting in their decision to use CAIN to slander the region, without regards to the aims of goals of CAIN. Manipulatory actions like this are a large part of the reason why CAIN devolved into, in the words of the Red Fleet, a "hotbed of drama."

While the Red Fleet claims to be the leader of anti-fascism of NationStates, this is a falsehood--like a wolf in sheep's clothing, they use this reputation to justify great evil. Because it cannot be so easily eliminated, the most dangerous kind of hatred is that which is disguised as love. It takes all of NationStates to stand up and stop it forever.

[Ikania]

I mean, I agree entirely, but I feel like you're trying a bit too hard. Are you gonna nail that to a church or something?

[RiderSyl]

I mean, I agree entirely, but I feel like you're trying a bit too hard. Are you gonna nail that to a church or something?

Straight to the door of the "Cult of Kek" frathouse, I presume.

[United Massachusetts]

I mean, I agree entirely, but I feel like you're trying a bit too hard. Are you gonna nail that to a church or something?

Along with 94 other theses

[Ikania]

I mean, I agree entirely, but I feel like you're trying a bit too hard. Are you gonna nail that to a church or something?

Along with 98 other theses

94.

[United Massachusetts]

Along with 98 other theses

94.

Yes, yes. At any rate, I'm Catholic.

[Cresenthia]

94.

Yes, yes. At any rate, I'm Catholic.

I was wondering what those extra 3 were doing in there. . .

[Cormactopia Prime]

The Red Fleet's attempted manipulation of CAIN in regard to Right to Life was certainly troubling. It was good to see The Red Fleet and The Internationale withdraw from CAIN so the organization can pursue its mission without constant attempts to hijack it for a leftist agenda.

[Caelapes]

It was good to see The Red Fleet and The Internationale withdraw from CAIN so the organization can pursue its mission without constant attempts to hijack it for a leftist agenda.

apparently "a leftist agenda" includes "doing shit, ever"

[Cormactopia Prime]

It was good to see The Red Fleet and The Internationale withdraw from CAIN so the organization can pursue its mission without constant attempts to hijack it for a leftist agenda.

apparently "a leftist agenda" includes "doing shit, ever"

CAIN recently invaded and refounded Union of the Fascist Reich, well after the leftist regions' departure. The leftist regions were still members of CAIN, and not contributing anything more than anyone else, during the lull that followed Brunhilde's reduced activity. Don't pretend you brought anything more to the table than anyone else. CAIN lost nothing of value when it lost The Red Fleet and The Internationale.

In fact, all in all, the leftist regions' departure from CAIN is a net gain for the organization. Maybe now CAIN will be able to recruit additional anti-Nazi regions that are respectable and able to work with others toward a common goal without trying to push their ideological agenda. The presence of the leftist regions in CAIN was unquestionably a hindrance to the recruitment of additional regions.

[Caelapes]

Chagrined Kekistani raiders sent to bed without supper

Following an embarrassing start to the week for fash raiders from Kekistani Republic, including two would-be raids tracked by The Red Fleet, the region's "Lord Protector" spoke out Wednesday night about the botch job.

"Let me get this straight, you guys attempted to raid a region that still had an active founder, without any authorization from the higher-ups, using dirty puppets?" he sternly asked, sternly jabbing a finger at his abashed troops. "What on Earth were you morons thinking? Absolutely shameful. I'm serious, if I EVER catch you doing anything like that again, there will be consequences."

Reports received by the Fleet Intelligence Directorate indicate that the soldiers' pillows are wet with sobbing, but that the meal they missed out on of Mrs. Kekistonia's New England boiled dinner was just super, and the raspberry Jell-O delight with cool whipping cream will surely be the talk of the lace-curtain society.

Pax ignescens!

[Kekistonia]

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of degenderassy following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of boverty in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" XDDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I starve you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/



Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/

[Kalinin K-8]

I would first like to quote this:

The main outcomes of this seem to be:

1. One bad person in a region, or even a joke made by one person makes the entire region Nazi.
2. Anti-communism=Nazism
3. "You're either with us, or you're with the Nazis. There is no such thing as a moderate."

Good job Misley, using the tools of the Nazis to fight everyone else too.

Secondly: okay, okay, we understand, you want to bash the Kekistani Republic because quite literally, they're the only vulnerable target and the only offensive enemy you have at the moment. Just remember: they aren't fascists. >_>

[United Massachusetts]

I find it odd how no one from the Fleet has even attempted to refute the charges against it. Is this an admission of the truthfulness to these charges?

[Freien]

I find it odd how no one from the Fleet has even attempted to refute the charges against it. Is this an admission of the truthfulness to these charges?

No. Apparently the sailors of the The Red Fleet share the belief that some people are better to be ignored, instead of being given attention they don't deserve.

[Cresenthia]

I find it odd how no one from the Fleet has even attempted to refute the charges against it. Is this an admission of the truthfulness to these charges?

No. Apparently the sailors of the The Red Fleet share the belief that some people are better to be ignored, instead of being given attention they don't deserve.

So, are you saying that any criticism whatsoever is pointless? Because that's what it sounds like.

[United Massachusetts]

I find it odd how no one from the Fleet has even attempted to refute the charges against it. Is this an admission of the truthfulness to these charges?

No. Apparently the sailors of the The Red Fleet share the belief that some people are better to be ignored, instead of being given attention they don't deserve.

Yes, because the sailors of the Red Fleet believe that anyone who criticizes them is just an anti-revolutionary fascist who cannot possibly make logical arguments. I'm going to keep bringing these up and keep speaking out against you all until someone gives a coherent response. If you are going to ignore valid criticism and refuse to respond to it, I'll spread it around until you have to.

[Caelapes]

i already rebutted almost all of the exact same arguments when you tried and failed to repeal TRF's Commendation twice.

come up with new ones and maybe i'll respond to em bub

[United Massachusetts]

i already rebutted almost all of the exact same arguments when you tried and failed to repeal TRF's Commendation twice.

come up with new ones and maybe i'll respond to em bub

No, you didn't. If you've read it, you would see I've laid out clearly the facts and how they contradict your previous statement in my repeal thread. I know we'll never see eye-to-eye on this, but I've adressed your arguments in this

[Consular]

If you are going to ignore valid criticism and refuse to respond to it, I'll spread it around until you have to.

Yeah good luck with that

[Freien]

No. Apparently the sailors of the The Red Fleet share the belief that some people are better to be ignored, instead of being given attention they don't deserve.

So, are you saying that any criticism whatsoever is pointless? Because that's what it sounds like.

That is not what it sounds like, you are intentionally manipulating my words.

[Caelapes]

i already rebutted almost all of the exact same arguments when you tried and failed to repeal TRF's Commendation twice.

come up with new ones and maybe i'll respond to em bub

No, you didn't. If you've read it, you would see I've laid out clearly the facts and how they contradict your previous statement in my repeal thread. I know we'll never see eye-to-eye on this, but I've adressed your arguments in this

i read as much of it as I needed to.

for what it's worth our targeting computer's list is not "a very long list, by the way" - it's got 220 regions in it (1 target for every 100 regions) as of this post - and that's just a computer-generated list, not every region is actually targeted (if they were we'd be a lot more active).

for comparison's sake, a traditional raider group would have about 9800 targets in their valid target list. therefore it's plain to see that our targeting policy filters out 98% of vulnerable regions in the world.

[Kalinin K-8]

So, are you saying that any criticism whatsoever is pointless? Because that's what it sounds like.

That is not what it sounds like, you are intentionally manipulating my words.

They don't want to listen to the criticism because they feel that those criticizers aren't worth listening to. This sounds quite alternate right, similar to another famous alternate right politician who also doesn't want to listen to the criticism because he feels that those criticizers, or rather, criticizing media centers, aren't worth listening to.