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Postby Caelapes » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:41 pm

tl;dr you were the commander of the USSF, whose sailors deployed to Femdom Empire to support the Nazi defense of that region, which was closer to a fascist "satire" of feminism (it's worth noting that the former Nazi founder of the Greater German Reich utilized a Nazi "femdom" aesthetic) than to actual feminists. you also denied it and lied about it until you ultimately admitted we were right and pulled your troops out.

People who want to read a long, boring explanation with evidence can refer to this and following pages: viewtopic.php?p=30661974#p30661974
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:45 pm

Oh great, a region thread run by a Stalinist This makes me curious. Does the red fleet oppose fascism because of fascism's barbaric practices, or are they just angry that they betrayed the Soviet Union?
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Postby Vetelo » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:51 pm

Caelapes wrote:tl;dr you were the commander of the USSF, whose sailors deployed to Femdom Empire to support the Nazi defense of that region, which was closer to a fascist "satire" of feminism (it's worth noting that the former Nazi founder of the Greater German Reich utilized a Nazi "femdom" aesthetic) than to actual feminists. you also denied it and lied about it until you ultimately admitted we were right and pulled your troops out.

People who want to read a long, boring explanation with evidence can refer to this and following pages: viewtopic.php?p=30661974#p30661974

I was not the Fleet Admiral of the USSF during that time, that was Mercia State. I had no idea that any USSF sailors were being deployed in Femdom Empire, and as soon as I did, I was furious, and I made Mercia pull them out immediately. Mercia was even banned for over a year for this incident. The USSF also worked very closely with the NPO besieging Femdom Empire for several days.
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Postby Caelapes » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:10 pm

Vetelo wrote:
Caelapes wrote:tl;dr you were the commander of the USSF, whose sailors deployed to Femdom Empire to support the Nazi defense of that region, which was closer to a fascist "satire" of feminism (it's worth noting that the former Nazi founder of the Greater German Reich utilized a Nazi "femdom" aesthetic) than to actual feminists. you also denied it and lied about it until you ultimately admitted we were right and pulled your troops out.

People who want to read a long, boring explanation with evidence can refer to this and following pages: viewtopic.php?p=30661974#p30661974

I was not the Fleet Admiral of the USSF during that time, that was Mercia State. I had no idea that any USSF sailors were being deployed in Femdom Empire, and as soon as I did, I was furious, and I made Mercia pull them out immediately. Mercia was even banned for over a year for this incident. The USSF also worked very closely with the NPO besieging Femdom Empire for several days.

this is a super bizarre argument to make unless you're going to pretend that you weren't the Fleet Admiral when you always have been, and posted that you were three days after the date of the posts in the CAIN thread:

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Postby Vetelo » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:16 pm

Look we already settled this argument the first time we had it. The sailors were pulled out. Give it up. I honestly don't know why I'm dignifying you with a response. No one believes what you are saying.
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Postby Caelapes » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:21 pm

incredible how you went from "what you're lying" to "yeah whatever you were right, so who cares? you're still lying" after being shown evidence countering your statements, just like when you eventually pulled your sailors out.

in case you forgot, i brought your sailors' participation up because you asked me to:
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Postby Vetelo » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:27 pm

Mercia already told you himself that he sent the troops in the CAIN thread. Yeah, incredible that I don't want to have the same discussion when we already completely refuted this. It's repetitive, completely unnecessary, is getting you nowhere, and is making me and everyone else in my region tired of responding to you.
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Postby Consular » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:47 am

Vetelo wrote:No one believes what you are saying.

Why say things you know are wrong?

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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:18 am

Vetelo wrote:Look we already settled this argument the first time we had it. The sailors were pulled out. Give it up. I honestly don't know why I'm dignifying you with a response. No one believes what you are saying.


Give it up mate, Misley clearly has receipts
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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:04 am

And not a second too soon, even those that worked alongside the NPO have been victims of their deceit! NPO delenda est! Unity in Diversity!
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Postby Neo Domais » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:11 am

This if true seems like it was in 2016, who cares.
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Postby Malphe » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:11 am

Neo Domais wrote:This if true seems like it was in 2016, who cares.

People would probably be willing to get up in arms about something that happened in 2009, 2016 is basically yesterday.
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Postby Kavagrad » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:16 am

Malphe wrote:
Neo Domais wrote:This if true seems like it was in 2016, who cares.

People would probably be willing to get up in arms about something that happened in 2009, 2016 is basically yesterday.

NPO still venerate some dude that last did something of substance in 2004.

NPO delenda est, etc.
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Postby Neo Domais » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:24 pm

Malphe wrote:
Neo Domais wrote:This if true seems like it was in 2016, who cares.

People would probably be willing to get up in arms about something that happened in 2009, 2016 is basically yesterday.

I mean I just think that the USSD is not a Nazi contributor. Someone told me to close my embassy with them, to that I say no, the Red Fleet is just trying to undermine his success.
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Postby Vetelo » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:38 pm

Consular wrote:
Vetelo wrote:No one believes what you are saying.

Why say things you know are wrong?

Why barge into conversations you know nothing about? 2/3 of the USSF sailors that assisted Femdom Empire were BANNED. End of story.
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Postby Freien » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Vetelo wrote:
Consular wrote:Why say things you know are wrong?

Why barge into conversations you know nothing about? 2/3 of the USSF sailors that assisted Femdom Empire were BANNED. End of story.

Let's assume that this is true. What about the remaining 1/3? Why didn't you ban them?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:49 pm

Freien wrote:
Vetelo wrote:Why barge into conversations you know nothing about? 2/3 of the USSF sailors that assisted Femdom Empire were BANNED. End of story.

Let's assume that this is true. What about the remaining 1/3? Why didn't you ban them?

Perhaps they were very new people who were just following orders?
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Postby Christ Alive » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:52 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:just following orders?


Did these words seem familiar to you as you wrote them? What a blunder.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:55 pm

Christ Alive wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:just following orders?


Did these words seem familiar to you as you wrote them? What a blunder.

Move into a new region and sign up to its military, and receive orders within the first week. Assuming you nothing about the game, what are you likely to do?
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Postby Christ Alive » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:56 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Christ Alive wrote:
Did these words seem familiar to you as you wrote them? What a blunder.

Move into a new region and sign up to its military, and receive orders within the first week. Assuming you nothing about the game, what are you likely to do?


Just pointing out the poor choice of words is all. I don't think anybody could ever get anywhere arguing with this lot-make an edition of Das Kapital and sneak in a section that says that that third should not have been banned and then you'd have a fighting chance, maybe.
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Postby Vetelo » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:02 pm

Freien wrote:
Vetelo wrote:Why barge into conversations you know nothing about? 2/3 of the USSF sailors that assisted Femdom Empire were BANNED. End of story.

Let's assume that this is true. What about the remaining 1/3? Why didn't you ban them?

New Vapaus and all of her alternate accounts are banned in the USSD Discord, and all of the nations she has attempted to join us with, also banned. Mercia State was banned for over a year, and his punishment was only recently repealed. NRSSR, the "1/3" was not banned because he was basically just following orders. He wasn't aware of the implications of what he was doing. (NRSSR also participated in the siege of Femdom Empire following this incident, which I believe completely resolves him of any guilt)
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Postby Consular » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:03 pm

Vetelo wrote:
Consular wrote:Why say things you know are wrong?

Why barge into conversations you know nothing about?

Haha. Sadly, pretty much everyone knows all about you. :)

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Postby Neo Domais » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:06 pm

Why are we attacking the USSD if they banned them leaders of this op. Were does it say that the dear leader ordered it or approved of it. There is no mention of his name in the post Cealapes or does it say that he was knew about it at the time. All the regions Extalia raids we open an In-game embassy, they do not currently have an embassy with them. What is the big deal here. In some regions embassies do not reflect there view points and you would label those regions Nazi collaborators. So your telling me that Lardyland is a nazi collaborator region?
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Postby Vetelo » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:24 pm

Consular wrote:
Vetelo wrote:Why barge into conversations you know nothing about?

Haha. Sadly, pretty much everyone knows all about you. :)

I'm glad I'm so popular, lol. Are snarky remarks all you have to contribute to this discussion?
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:02 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
Vetelo wrote:Look we already settled this argument the first time we had it. The sailors were pulled out. Give it up. I honestly don't know why I'm dignifying you with a response. No one believes what you are saying.


Give it up mate, Misley clearly has receipts

Can they please be posted in full anyway, for those who haven't seen?

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