The Red Fleet · Admiralty Board Changes Announced

[Aclion]

The faked telegrams in question aren’t remotely in the same league as TRE. There’s nothing whatsoever that is hypocritical about us condemning TRE’s outrageous behavior, and your attempts to put my past behavior on that level makes you look foolish.

The fact that you think 'whose harassment was worse?' is an issue tells me you still don't understand why either was objectionable.

[Caelapes]

The fact that you think a couple of mild faked TGs is comparable to sustained, virulent hatred of trans people tells me everything I need to know about why I’ll never give a goddamn what you think.

[RiderSyl]

To those of you that think The Red Fleet putting out a statement on TRE's behavior is the right time to raise your issues with Misley and/or the ideology he represents on NationStates:

It's not the right time. It makes you look ignorant, and rude. Stop it.

It is always the right time to do what is right and right now what's right for TRF is giving Caelapes the boot.

If you're honestly so enamored with doing what is right, then you should stop this, because taking advantage of the situation at hand to push your agenda is the opposite of what's right.

[West Leas Oros]

It is always the right time to do what is right and right now what's right for TRF is giving Caelapes the boot.

If you're honestly so enamored with doing what is right, then you should stop this, because taking advantage of the situation at hand to push your agenda is the opposite of what's right.

Isn’t that exactly what Caelapes and TRF are doing? Like all the time? They always take advantage of the situation to push their agenda, and they claim to be the “good guy”.

[Caelapes]

If you're honestly so enamored with doing what is right, then you should stop this, because taking advantage of the situation at hand to push your agenda is the opposite of what's right.

Isn’t that exactly what Caelapes and TRF are doing? Like all the time? They always take advantage of the situation to push their agenda, and they claim to be the “good guy”.

We claim to be the good guys because we are the good guys.

[West Leas Oros]

Isn’t that exactly what Caelapes and TRF are doing? Like all the time? They always take advantage of the situation to push their agenda, and they claim to be the “good guy”.

We claim to be the good guys because we are the good guys.

And what makes you the good guys? Bad guys can hate other bad guys and that doesn’t make them the good guys. Except to you, you are the good guys because the rules don’t apply to you. You can claim special pleading and the crowd follows you.

[United Massachusetts]

Y'alls know my thoughts on TRF. But it's really concerning that certain individuals seek to turn a discussion which should be about the transphobia and hatred in TRE into a discussion of Misley's past. It's sort of sickening. Now is not the time.

[West Leas Oros]

Y'alls know my thoughts on TRF. But it's really concerning that certain individuals seek to turn a discussion which should be about the transphobia and hatred in TRE into a discussion of Misley's past. It's sort of sickening. Now is not the time.

Its an important discussion, but the TRE is already weakening. Misley on the other hand, his band of terrorists- oh wait- “freedom fighters” grow stronger by the day. Misley and his authoritarian comrades are an important issue. By now, the TRE’s actions have been long forgotten, and I never argued about who Misley was, I’m talking about who he is in the here and now. And in the here and now, he remains the leader of a fanatical military group that has been exerting its totalitarian rule over the rest of us.

[Devi Vytherin]

By now, the TRE’s actions have been long forgotten

There's some hyperbole if I ever saw it.

[West Leas Oros]

By now, the TRE’s actions have been long forgotten

There's some hyperbole if I ever saw it.

It’s not my fault this community has the attention span of a dead goldfish.

[Devi Vytherin]

There's some hyperbole if I ever saw it.

It’s not my fault this community has the attention span of a dead goldfish.

...have you seen GP?
People bring up stuff that happened half a decade ago on a regular basis.

[Lord Dominator]

It’s not my fault this community has the attention span of a dead goldfish.

...have you seen GP?
People bring up stuff that happened half a decade ago on a regular basis.

Only 5 years? We have people talking about 2003 stuff right now

[West Leas Oros]

It’s not my fault this community has the attention span of a dead goldfish.

...have you seen GP?
People bring up stuff that happened half a decade ago on a regular basis.

I never claimed the community didn’t bring up old shit. But I’m sure that whenever we hear about whatever TRE did, many of us either A. Roll our eyes and move on, or B. Swear on our mum that we will kill every last one of them, as well as anything standing in our way, because we are the good guys, and that means we can do whatever we want and it’s okay.

[Tim-Opolis]

...have you seen GP?
People bring up stuff that happened half a decade ago on a regular basis.

I never claimed the community didn’t bring up old shit. But I’m sure that whenever we hear about whatever TRE did, many of us either A. Roll our eyes and move on, or B. Swear on our mum that we will kill every last one of them, as well as anything standing in our way, because we are the good guys, and that means we can do whatever we want and it’s okay.

Yeah, nope, TRE are going to remain blacklisted, just like many other reprehensible regions and individuals have been before them.

[Devi Vytherin]

...have you seen GP?
People bring up stuff that happened half a decade ago on a regular basis.

I never claimed the community didn’t bring up old shit. But I’m sure that whenever we hear about whatever TRE did, many of us either A. Roll our eyes and move on, or B. Swear on our mum that we will kill every last one of them, as well as anything standing in our way, because we are the good guys, and that means we can do whatever we want and it’s okay.

Nice to know blacklisting is equivalent to murder now.

[West Leas Oros]

I never claimed the community didn’t bring up old shit. But I’m sure that whenever we hear about whatever TRE did, many of us either A. Roll our eyes and move on, or B. Swear on our mum that we will kill every last one of them, as well as anything standing in our way, because we are the good guys, and that means we can do whatever we want and it’s okay.

Yeah, nope, TRE are going to remain blacklisted, just like many other reprehensible regions and individuals have been before them.

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

[West Leas Oros]

I never claimed the community didn’t bring up old shit. But I’m sure that whenever we hear about whatever TRE did, many of us either A. Roll our eyes and move on, or B. Swear on our mum that we will kill every last one of them, as well as anything standing in our way, because we are the good guys, and that means we can do whatever we want and it’s okay.

Nice to know blacklisting is equivalent to murder now.

I bet TRF wouldn’t be opposed to murder, after all, We ArE tHe gOoD GuYs!

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Yeah, nope, TRE are going to remain blacklisted, just like many other reprehensible regions and individuals have been before them.

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

Hi, registered card-carrying bad guy (and leader of radical violent LGBT raiders) here, we broke the story to the public, if that helps.

[West Leas Oros]

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

Hi, registered card-carrying bad guy (and leader of radical violent LGBT raiders) here, we broke the story to the public, if that helps.

We broke the story to the public, so we could use this as a PR stunt and make it seem like we are the protectors of the innocent.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Hi, registered card-carrying bad guy (and leader of radical violent LGBT raiders) here, we broke the story to the public, if that helps.

We broke the story to the public, so we could use this as a PR stunt and make it seem like we are the protectors of the innocent.

....no?

[Razzle Dazzle]

Hi, registered card-carrying bad guy (and leader of radical violent LGBT raiders) here, we broke the story to the public, if that helps.

We broke the story to the public, so we could use this as a PR stunt and make it seem like we are the protectors of the innocent.

Did you miss the part where Souls called himself a bad guy? That doesn't seem like a PR move.

Yeah, nope, TRE are going to remain blacklisted, just like many other reprehensible regions and individuals have been before them.

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

So... are you diagreeing that Fest and Plagentine's comments were bad?

[West Leas Oros]

We broke the story to the public, so we could use this as a PR stunt and make it seem like we are the protectors of the innocent.

....no?

Wait, are you claiming Misley isn’t trying to use this story to legitimize the Red Fleets “cause” by blacklisting the TRE?

[Tim-Opolis]

....no?

Wait, are you claiming Misley isn’t trying to use this story to legitimize the Red Fleets “cause” by blacklisting the TRE?

Alternatively, given that TRF, like many of the others who have made statements, has had military cooperation with TRE in the past, they wanted to clarify their policy direction moving forward.

[West Leas Oros]

We broke the story to the public, so we could use this as a PR stunt and make it seem like we are the protectors of the innocent.

Did you miss the part where Souls called himself a bad guy? That doesn't seem like a PR move

You know, I love how overzealous radicals are allowed to be the arbiters of morality. You know, I thought good guys were supposed to be, I don’t know, ACTUALLY GOOD?

So... are you diagreeing that Fest and Plagentine's comments were bad?

Wait, souls was talking about himself? Oh. Also, I don’t agree with TRE, but I find it stupid how TRF can claim to be good guys despite their own bad actions. They use special pleading so that they can do anything and still be the good guys, but if anybody else does something wrong, then they are bad. TRF is exempt from the rules because they are the “good guys”

[Kawaii Schoolgirl]

Did you miss the part where Souls called himself a bad guy? That doesn't seem like a PR move


So... are you diagreeing that Fest and Plagentine's comments were bad?

Wait, souls was talking about himself? Oh. Also, I don’t agree with TRE, but I find it stupid how TRF can claim to be good guys despite their own bad actions. They use special pleading so that they can do anything and still be the good guys, but if anybody else does something wrong, then they are bad. TRF is exempt from the rules because they are the “good guys”

What are some examples of TRF's bad actions?