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fascism is not inherently evil

Postby Eastern Vietistan » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:39 am

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You realize Nazism and Facism are two completely different things, right?


No, no they are not - one is borne from another. And as Caelepes said:
We don't discuss with people who hide behind puppets.

but you are speaking from a third person point of view none of you have the authority to speak about fascism your knowledge of which mostly comes from your sixth grade history class

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:49 am

Eastern vietistan wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
No, no they are not - one is borne from another. And as Caelepes said:

but you are speaking from a third person point of view none of you have the authority to speak about fascism your knowledge of which mostly comes from your sixth grade history class
Why do you say that we all only know about fascism from "sixth-grade history class"? Nazism is a subsection of fascism

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:01 am

Eastern vietistan wrote:fascism your knowledge of which mostly comes from your sixth grade history class


Nah, I read about it in newspapers and TV reports almost every day.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:50 pm

Eastern vietistan wrote:your knowledge of which mostly comes from your sixth grade history class

Given the rather wide age range of Nationstates' playerbase, this quip is disingenuous at best, and flamebaiting at worst, saying that your opposition are a bunch of children. If you cannot argue your position without taking cheap jabs at your opponents rather than attacking their arguments, you shouldn't be posting it. Please review the site rules before proceeding.

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Postby Eastern Vietistan » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:12 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
Eastern vietistan wrote:but you are speaking from a third person point of view none of you have the authority to speak about fascism your knowledge of which mostly comes from your sixth grade history class
Why do you say that we all only know about fascism from "sixth-grade history class"? Nazism is a subsection of fascism

yes but it doesn't define the movement fascism can be interpreted in many different ways we see examples of this in the regimes of francisco franco , Augusto Pinochet , and mussolini fascism does not have to be race based to be legitimate in fact the whole notion of nazism is quite silly considering it was headed by a mentally disabled,drug addicted man
tye fascism that i personally subscribe is known as classical fascism doctored by Benito mussolini

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Postby Mattopilos II » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:15 am

Eastern vietistan wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Why do you say that we all only know about fascism from "sixth-grade history class"? Nazism is a subsection of fascism

yes but it doesn't define the movement fascism can be interpreted in many different ways we see examples of this in the regimes of francisco franco , Augusto Pinochet , and mussolini fascism does not have to be race based to be legitimate in fact the whole notion of nazism is quite silly considering it was headed by a mentally disabled,drug addicted man
tye fascism that i personally subscribe is known as classical fascism doctored by Benito mussolini


Man, do you hold grudges that long? You got told to contribute in a more constructive manner. Move on.

Oh, and Pinochet wasn't a fascist.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:48 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
Eastern vietistan wrote:yes but it doesn't define the movement fascism can be interpreted in many different ways we see examples of this in the regimes of francisco franco , Augusto Pinochet , and mussolini fascism does not have to be race based to be legitimate in fact the whole notion of nazism is quite silly considering it was headed by a mentally disabled,drug addicted man
tye fascism that i personally subscribe is known as classical fascism doctored by Benito mussolini


Man, do you hold grudges that long? You got told to contribute in a more constructive manner. Move on.

Oh, and Pinochet wasn't a fascist.
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Postby Caelapes » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:40 pm

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the red fleet has been active again, with the predominantly euro-based Sankara Squadron finally getting off its ass and running operations against some measly fascist-tagged regions. congratulations to these sailors and officers for a string of successful operations.

additionally, the huey p. newton squadron saw a vulnerability in The Vast, a region founded by a former moderator, and took the region out in a precision strike. hail satan

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:50 am

I know this is kinda an odd question coming from a raider, but uh...any particular reason for TRF invading Nathicana's region?
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Postby True South Vietnam » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:10 am

Fauxia wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:
Man, do you hold grudges that long? You got told to contribute in a more constructive manner. Move on.

Oh, and Pinochet wasn't a fascist.
THANK YOU! Pinochet was like the most capitalist dude ever, he couldn't have been fascist

And he had an affinity for helicopters...
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Postby Zenganopoli » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:22 am

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Postby Altmoras » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:15 am

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Postby The Holy Empire of the United Americas » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:22 am

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Postby Caelapes » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:03 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I know this is kinda an odd question coming from a raider, but uh...any particular reason for TRF invading Nathicana's region?

It had the “Fascist” tag.
    
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Postby True South Vietnam » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:11 am

I actually wonder if the Red Fleet raids regions that do not engage in raiding (Regions that dont care about raiding, and just do their thing), simply for having a fascism tag.
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Postby Caelapes » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:22 am

True South Vietnam wrote:I actually wonder if the Red Fleet raids regions that do not engage in raiding (Regions that dont care about raiding, and just do their thing), simply for having a fascism tag.

We do! It’s in our public raiding policy. We don’t destroy regions simply for having the fascist tag, though, and we look through the region’s history to try to ensure that the tag was added by natives and not by raiders.
    
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Postby Most Eternal Angvaria » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:18 pm

Caelapes wrote:
True South Vietnam wrote:I actually wonder if the Red Fleet raids regions that do not engage in raiding (Regions that dont care about raiding, and just do their thing), simply for having a fascism tag.

We do! It’s in our public raiding policy. We don’t destroy regions simply for having the fascist tag, though, and we look through the region’s history to try to ensure that the tag was added by natives and not by raiders.

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Postby Nat Socs » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:21 pm

Awww, how cute. The little revolutionaries think they're gonna be fighting for the prole. What valiant warriors you are! Keep allying yourselves with such worthy causes! :rofl:
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Postby Southern Bellz » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:56 am

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Postby Mansuetus » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:32 pm

Nat Socs wrote:Awww, how cute. The little revolutionaries think they're gonna be fighting for the prole. What valiant warriors you are! Keep allying yourselves with such worthy causes! :rofl:

Absolutely fucking burned us, that emoji really put the last nail in the coffin. You got me rock hard with that THICK LOAD of sarcasm.
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Postby Atkemri » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:41 pm

You know maybe and just maybe fascists are people too. I understand that their ideology is inherently awful but,must you target them, maybe you could just let them live their lives in peace?
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Postby Most Eternal Angvaria » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm

Atkemri wrote:You know maybe and just maybe fascists are people too. I understand that their ideology is inherently awful but,must you target them, maybe you could just let them live their lives in peace?

And have you embraced it very well, then?
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Postby Caelapes » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:08 pm

Atkemri wrote:must you target them

yes
Atkemri wrote:maybe you could just let them live their lives in peace?

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Postby Atkemri » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:56 pm

Most Eternal Angvaria wrote:
Atkemri wrote:You know maybe and just maybe fascists are people too. I understand that their ideology is inherently awful but,must you target them, maybe you could just let them live their lives in peace?

And have you embraced it very well, then?

No I have not embraced it I'm just saying there are probably better ways of making them drop fascism than aggressively attacking them in all aspects of life.
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