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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:28 pm

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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:21 pm

I was really hoping BoM wasn't going to be like every other raider military. Maybe I expected too much of them.
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Postby Varanius » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:19 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:I was really hoping BoM wasn't going to be like every other raider military. Maybe I expected too much of them.
But all they did was…raid.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:35 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:I was really hoping BoM wasn't going to be like every other raider military. Maybe I expected too much of them.


Were you....hoping they didn't stretch their legs on tags with allies sometimes? Hoping they didn't warm up at all?

Nothing beats some tagging for getting the rust off one's move and endorse buttons, or for a low stakes night of fun.
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The color or what?..

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Postby Pterodaxtyl » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:51 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:I was really hoping BoM wasn't going to be like every other raider military. Maybe I expected too much of them.

I'm honestly curious what your expectations were if a raider org raiding isn't within them.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:52 pm

Pterodaxtyl wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:I was really hoping BoM wasn't going to be like every other raider military. Maybe I expected too much of them.

I'm honestly curious what your expectations were if a raider org raiding isn't within them.


BoM assisting *Osiris* no less lmao
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:24 pm

I expected more than just a simple raid. I expected more than just some tag raids and a report. Because it's basic, boring, and it's been all R/D has had for over five years. All they're doing is the same thing the other raider militaries are doing. And it makes me yawn so much. I know many others, raider and defender are bored by this as well. They've been saying it for years too.

Raiders used to give defenders a reason to go out and tell founderless UCRs to refound their regions before it was too late. Raiders used to be such a big threat. What are they now? They're just so...pedestrian.

If you wanna be the bad guys, then stop dragging your feet and be the bad guys.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:26 pm

No one seemed bored in the raid vc, tbh. Completely not sorry if you're not entertaining by Malice's first week back and Osiris' raid report.

Edit: hold up, this was the ballsmoment raid, nah VC was POPPING, this wasn't just non-boring to raiders, we actually missed a hit or two from laughing too hard at the mid raid memes to jump well.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Reventus Koth » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:31 pm

Let the man let his guard down, Souls. The respect will come with time.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:37 pm

Not as long as R/D is so cosmetic. There's no impact. No substance. It's so unchanging. You changed some flags. Changed some words on the WFE. What's next? You all gonna change some flags and change some words on the WFEs too? >_>
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Postby Reventus Koth » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:43 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:Not as long as R/D is so cosmetic. There's no impact. No substance. It's so unchanging. You changed some flags. Changed some words on the WFE. What's next? You all gonna change some flags and change some words on the WFEs too? >_>

Would you like us to coup another GCR? Necessitate another Liberation on a true founderless region like St Abbaddon? I'm aware that the new incarnation of the Brotherhood has mighty shoes to fill. We hope to make it worth your while once all the rust is worked out of our blades.

Now, if you'd like to tilt at any further windmills, you can find us in our own embassy thread. The Legion deserves its own credit.
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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:55 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:Would you like us to coup another GCR? Necessitate another Liberation on a true founderless region like St Abbaddon? I'm aware that the new incarnation of the Brotherhood has mighty shoes to fill. We hope to make it worth your while once all the rust is worked out of our blades.

Now, if you'd like to tilt at any further windmills, you can find us in our own embassy thread. The Legion deserves its own credit.

Oh yes, what did the Legion do? The same thing The Black Hawks are doing? Very impressive stuff, right? They've really turned heads by putting up their billboards I'm sure. The Legion, The Hawks, The Malice, they all move so exactly the same that I can barely tell them apart. >_>
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Postby Hesskin Empire » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Reventus Koth wrote:Would you like us to coup another GCR? Necessitate another Liberation on a true founderless region like St Abbaddon? I'm aware that the new incarnation of the Brotherhood has mighty shoes to fill. We hope to make it worth your while once all the rust is worked out of our blades.

Now, if you'd like to tilt at any further windmills, you can find us in our own embassy thread. The Legion deserves its own credit.

Oh yes, what did the Legion do? The same thing The Black Hawks are doing? Very impressive stuff, right? They've really turned heads by putting up their billboards I'm sure. The Legion, The Hawks, The Malice, they all move so exactly the same that I can barely tell them apart. >_>

Well I'm sure the distinctive two reports from the Hawks and Legion should help tell them apart.
(Are we also supposed to ignore ALH and just pretend only tagging has been going on?)
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:10 pm

Hesskin Empire wrote:Well I'm sure the distinctive two reports from the Hawks and Legion should help tell them apart.
(Are we also supposed to ignore ALH and just pretend only tagging has been going on?)

Yet their reports say the same thing. When will someone finally break the mold again? Salt the land! Scorch the earth! Make the price of defenders not showing up in force actually count for something.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:11 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Hesskin Empire wrote:Well I'm sure the distinctive two reports from the Hawks and Legion should help tell them apart.
(Are we also supposed to ignore ALH and just pretend only tagging has been going on?)

Yet their reports say the same thing. When will someone finally break the mold again? Salt the land! Scorch the earth! Make the price of defenders not showing up in force actually count for something.

Raiders ejected a native in A Liberal Haven literally an hour ago.
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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:17 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Raiders ejected a native in A Liberal Haven literally an hour ago.

Oh yeah, that one time how many weeks ago? There was a time when everything burned. No exceptions. Raiding has evolved so much now, right? Raiders compromise. They spare so many wide-eyed natives because they're not important enough to give raiders that PR they crave so much. How exciting....
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Postby Wascoitan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:19 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Raiders ejected a native in A Liberal Haven literally an hour ago.

Oh yeah, that one time how many weeks ago?

question, what do you think an hour ago means? I'd recommend you take a look at the region this native of ALH is currently in https://www.nationstates.net/nation=maineiacs
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:I expected more than just a simple raid. I expected more than just some tag raids and a report. Because it's basic, boring, and it's been all R/D has had for over five years. All they're doing is the same thing the other raider militaries are doing. And it makes me yawn so much. I know many others, raider and defender are bored by this as well. They've been saying it for years too.

Raiders used to give defenders a reason to go out and tell founderless UCRs to refound their regions before it was too late. Raiders used to be such a big threat. What are they now? They're just so...pedestrian.

If you wanna be the bad guys, then stop dragging your feet and be the bad guys.

Nobody is obligated to assist you with your moral insecurities.

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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:26 pm

Wascoitan wrote:question, what do you think an hour ago means? I'd recommend you take a look at the region this native of ALH is currently in https://www.nationstates.net/nation=maineiacs

I mean the raid itself. Or was it not obvious how little raids of that nature happen anymore? Maybe some raiders have become too complacent. Too satisfied with doing something worthwhile occasionally.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:29 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Wascoitan wrote:question, what do you think an hour ago means? I'd recommend you take a look at the region this native of ALH is currently in https://www.nationstates.net/nation=maineiacs

I mean the raid itself. Or was it not obvious how little raids of that nature happen anymore? Maybe some raiders have become too complacent. Too satisfied with doing something worthwhile occasionally.


Do you understand how influence works?

Because if you want us to burn regions to the ground, *and* you're upset because ALH began weeks ago, I'm really not sure you do.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:34 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Nobody is obligated to assist you with your moral insecurities.

Moral insecurity? You mistake that for genuine excitement. There's no thrill in it anymore. Or has the great Klaus Devestatorie forgotten what raiders can achieve when everything is equally flammable?
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Do you understand how influence works?

Because if you want us to burn regions to the ground, *and* you're upset because ALH began weeks ago, I'm really not sure you do.

Upset? No. I'm left with an enemy that is content to pick and choose what's worth burning instead of wiping out everything. How long until the next ALH? Two months? Three? And yet there is still so much left undone while you wait.
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Yuno: Not gonna yell, but CoS is one of the best delegates ever | Ever-Wandering Souls: In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.

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Postby Dawn Denac » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:38 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Nobody is obligated to assist you with your moral insecurities.

Moral insecurity? You mistake that for genuine excitement. There's no thrill in it anymore. Or has the great Klaus Devestatorie forgotten what raiders can achieve when everything is equally flammable?
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Do you understand how influence works?

Because if you want us to burn regions to the ground, *and* you're upset because ALH began weeks ago, I'm really not sure you do.

Upset? No. I'm left with an enemy that is content to pick and choose what's worth burning instead of wiping out everything. How long until the next ALH? Two months? Three? And yet there is still so much left undone while you wait.


Don't worry, we'll be sure to help the Sekhmet Legion and the Brotherhood of Malice achieve their goals of stealing everyone's sweetroll.

I think.

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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:42 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Nobody is obligated to assist you with your moral insecurities.

Moral insecurity? You mistake that for genuine excitement. There's no thrill in it anymore. Or has the great Klaus Devestatorie forgotten what raiders can achieve when everything is equally flammable?

What is "equally flammable"? I can gush about the old days before Halcones ruined everything with his spreadsheets, but even I can't remember raider groups not playing favourites, or not being influenced into some level of moderation by less willing allies. You'd have to go back to pre-influence and/or pre-founder days for that.
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Postby All Wild Things » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Not as long as R/D is so cosmetic. There's no impact. No substance. It's so unchanging. You changed some flags. Changed some words on the WFE. What's next? You all gonna change some flags and change some words on the WFEs too? >_>

Would you like us to coup another GCR?

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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:52 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:What is "equally flammable"? I can gush about the old days before Halcones ruined everything with his spreadsheets, but even I can't remember raider groups not playing favourites, or not being influenced into some level of moderation by less willing allies. You'd have to go back to pre-influence and/or pre-founder days for that.

"Equally flammable" means every target was burned. No matter how big or how small, they were all gone in the end; a statue dedicated to their ruthlessness. A symbol of why every defender absolutely needed to show up. Because something was actually at stake every single update. Every region mattered. Even the dead ones. Now, I really hate to say it, most of them don't matter. Most of them just to have to scrub the walls and they're back to business as usual.
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Chanku: This isn't an election it's an assault on the eyes. | Ikania: Hear! The Gospel of... Satan. Erh...
Yuno: Not gonna yell, but CoS is one of the best delegates ever | Ever-Wandering Souls: In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.

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