New Rogernomics wrote:Regardless of whether that was the case, you still gave up power, can't really blame people for saying 'hey you did x to Osiris' by appointing him/her. Sure there was someone else in Osiris, or even a Osiris dissident to hand power to.
What's strange, though, is how that level of responsibility seems only to apply to me. I don't recall, in 2013, anyone telling TSP that Milograd's coup was their fault because they elected him. I don't recall anyone ever saying that Stujenske's coup in Lazarus was his predecessor's fault because they appointed him. This isn't a coup, and it may never be one because an outright coup isn't necessary, but that isn't the point I'm making. From time to time, we trust the wrong people with power in the Feeders and Sinkers, and I'm not immune to that anymore than anyone else who has trusted the wrong person and been burned because of it.
New Rogernomics wrote:Osiris has never really had a 'golden era', and had issues well before any group like 'The Empire' came along. I don't think you can just pin it on one group in Osiris, but on years of not having the sort of government or community in Osiris that can avoid chaos, political feuds, and drama.
Empire came to Osiris on day one, so I'm not sure how Osiris could have had problems before they came along given that it didn't exist before they came along. Dalimbar and Neo Kervoskia arrived on day one, Biyah less than a month later, and Neenee a little over a month after him, meaning that the entire group was present in Osiris within its first three months. Dalimbar was the first elected Pharaoh of the KRO and Neo Kervoskia was one of the first appointments to the all-powerful Council of Ma'at, which they designed so they could later exploit -- again, by their own admission. So you're just wrong that Osiris had problems before they got there.
Whether Osiris' issues can be pinned on any one group is debatable. What we do know, by their own admission, is that they bear heavy responsibility for setting the early hyper-political, manipulative, and contentious tone of the region. Osiris' fundamental problem isn't bad government. OFO 1.0, which failed as miserably as did the KRO, was a democratic republic that was virtually identical in its structure to TEP's government, and not all that different from democratic republics in TNP, Laz, etc. It was a massive improvement over the KRO in terms of democracy and the rule of law. But it failed. The problem in Osiris is a problem of community culture, which is a long-term, perhaps permanent problem that can't be fixed with more government changes. The form of government doesn't matter; the culture remains the same through every government change. Empire created that culture in 2011 and is fostering it again, because it is the kind of culture they find easy to politically exploit.
New Rogernomics wrote:Osiris clearly wasn't in a stable state to begin with, if you are arguing that those that now manage the government would allow the community to be 'destroyed', and if there is no recourse for residents of the region to disagree with government actions. Autocracy has its downsides that way, even if it allows you get a lot more done than if Osiris were more like 'TNP, TSP, Lazarus, Europeia, Albion, et al'. As for Lazarus itself, I don't think anyone would be pushing for more than embassy exchange with Osiris, and that would take time to work out.
The problems in Osiris predate "autocracy." I know it's convenient for a particular narrative to blame Osiris' current problems on its current monarchist form of government, but these are the same problems Osiris faced under the KRO, an oligarchical republic masquerading as a democratic republic, and OFO 1.0, a democratic republic. So you're right that Osiris wasn't in a stable state to begin with, but that doesn't just date back to April 2016; it dates back to October 2011. Whatever people may think, I've done my best to fix it, and having repeatedly failed to fix it, I give up. Hopefully someone fixes it eventually. But good luck even trying to fix it while Empire is trying to take it back to what they see as the "golden age" of their political domination.