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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:15 am

Imperator Ecclesiae wrote:3. Foster a debate and explain the errors of nazism

well for one you could start with the six million dead jews
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Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
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Postby Corneliu Zelea Codreanu » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:18 am

Lollerland wrote:
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu wrote:As said before I ally with them because they raid Communists.

That is like saying I support Christian extremists because they are against Islamic extremists.

PS: I don't think communist ideologies are bad/evil and this post was just to make a point.

Says Communism isn't bad or evil but conveniently denies the Holodomor
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Postby Imperator Ecclesiae » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:29 am

Ikania wrote:
Imperator Ecclesiae wrote:3. Foster a debate and explain the errors of nazism

well for one you could start with the six million dead jews

K. Clearly CAIN will be really effective in stopping another holocaust or making it so that the holocaust didn't happen through suppressing freedom of conscience on NationStates.

I again ask that people thinking of supporting CAIN take a more measured approach and seek to first promote justice on NS and to protect the weak before they attack people for expressing themselves. There are actual questions of justice on this site.
-Help the IRC: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=chr ... /id=485908
-Help liberate all regions
-Defend current existing regions, maybe go to nations without founders and endorse the legitimate WA delegate.

There are great things you can all do on this site before invading regions owned by people you disagree with. And again, I think nobody of a sound mind is saying that the holocaust was good, but quite the opposite. Not many people support Nazism. I think that the skepticism comes not from a sympathy to nazis, but from a questioning of how much good this organization will do.

On the Christian question, why would it be better that you hold a rightfully Christian region than it be held by nazis? Christians are still forced out of their regions for no good reason by thugs. Before being aggressive, why not free the Christian regions and join the IRC CAIN? Why not? I guess the horseshoe theory may be right.

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Postby LollerLand » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:46 am

Imperator Ecclesiae wrote:
Ikania wrote:well for one you could start with the six million dead jews

K. Clearly CAIN will be really effective in stopping another holocaust or making it so that the holocaust didn't happen through suppressing freedom of conscience on NationStates.

I again ask that people thinking of supporting CAIN take a more measured approach and seek to first promote justice on NS and to protect the weak before they attack people for expressing themselves. There are actual questions of justice on this site.
-Help the IRC: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=chr ... /id=485908
-Help liberate all regions
-Defend current existing regions, maybe go to nations without founders and endorse the legitimate WA delegate.

There are great things you can all do on this site before invading regions owned by people you disagree with. And again, I think nobody of a sound mind is saying that the holocaust was good, but quite the opposite. Not many people support Nazism. I think that the skepticism comes not from a sympathy to nazis, but from a questioning of how much good this organization will do.

On the Christian question, why would it be better that you hold a rightfully Christian region than it be held by nazis? Christians are still forced out of their regions for no good reason by thugs. Before being aggressive, why not free the Christian regions and join the IRC CAIN? Why not? I guess the horseshoe theory may be right.
Liberating regions raided by Nazi regions are one of the functions of CAIN. Kindly read our treaty fully before criticising us.
And we are not against Christian regions.
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Postby Caelapes » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:50 am

CAIN is not a political organization beyond its anti-Nazism. CAIN is not leftist—there are democratic regions, conservative regions, monarchies, and communist regions all a part of CAIN.

The "horseshoe theory" is dumb bullshit anyway, but pretending like CAIN is "JUST AS BAD AS THE NAZIS!" because they won't give you regions that they don't have any authority or ability to give you is also pretty bad.
    
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Postby Imperator Ecclesiae » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:54 am

Lollerland wrote:
Imperator Ecclesiae wrote:K. Clearly CAIN will be really effective in stopping another holocaust or making it so that the holocaust didn't happen through suppressing freedom of conscience on NationStates.

I again ask that people thinking of supporting CAIN take a more measured approach and seek to first promote justice on NS and to protect the weak before they attack people for expressing themselves. There are actual questions of justice on this site.
-Help the IRC: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=chr ... /id=485908
-Help liberate all regions
-Defend current existing regions, maybe go to nations without founders and endorse the legitimate WA delegate.

There are great things you can all do on this site before invading regions owned by people you disagree with. And again, I think nobody of a sound mind is saying that the holocaust was good, but quite the opposite. Not many people support Nazism. I think that the skepticism comes not from a sympathy to nazis, but from a questioning of how much good this organization will do.

On the Christian question, why would it be better that you hold a rightfully Christian region than it be held by nazis? Christians are still forced out of their regions for no good reason by thugs. Before being aggressive, why not free the Christian regions and join the IRC CAIN? Why not? I guess the horseshoe theory may be right.
Liberating regions raided by Nazi regions are one of the functions of CAIN. Kindly read our treaty fully before criticising us.
And we are not against Christian regions.

K. Cool. And your allies are against Christian regions.

Caelapes wrote:CAIN is not a political organization beyond its anti-Nazism. CAIN is not leftist—there are democratic regions, conservative regions, monarchies, and communist regions all a part of CAIN.

The "horseshoe theory" is dumb bullshit anyway, but pretending like CAIN is "JUST AS BAD AS THE NAZIS!" because they won't give you regions that they don't have any authority or ability to give you is also pretty bad.

What is your reason for not giving those regions back to a region that would hold them in a just fashion?

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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:55 am

Ikania wrote:
Imperator Ecclesiae wrote:3. Foster a debate and explain the errors of nazism

well for one you could start with the six million dead jews

Corneliu Zelea Codreanu wrote:
Lollerland wrote:That is like saying I support Christian extremists because they are against Islamic extremists.

PS: I don't think communist ideologies are bad/evil and this post was just to make a point.

Says Communism isn't bad or evil but conveniently denies the Holodomor

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