Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism

[Canton Empire]

Co founder input on KAISERREICH: KAISERREICH was meant to be based of off pre 1918 Germany. In reality, it does have Nazi and fascist tendencies, which is the biggest reason I left.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

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The Coalition will begin voting on the first set of Nazi Regions in one week's time. This first group of Nazi Region will remain small in order to focus on the largest advocates of Nazism in NationStations. The initial list being voted on will include the following four regions:

Nazi Europa
KAISERREICH
The Iron Guard
National Socialist Ministries

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

[Drasnia]

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The Coalition will begin voting on the first set of Nazi Regions in one week's time. This first group of Nazi Region will remain small in order to focus on the largest advocates of Nazism in NationStations. The initial list being voted on will include the following four regions:

Nazi Europa
KAISERREICH
The Iron Guard
National Socialist Ministries

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

Because to them, German + Fascist = Nazi, no questions asked.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

Because to them, German + Fascist = Nazi, no questions asked.

My region isn't German, it's Romanian.

[-Equalia-]

Because to them, German + Fascist = Nazi, no questions asked.

My region isn't German, it's Romanian.

Then why would it be called KAISERREICH? German for Emperor Empire, by the literal translation. Did the region just change its theme but keep the name?

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

My region isn't German, it's Romanian.

Then why would it be called KAISERREICH? German for Emperor Empire, by the literal translation. Did the region just change its theme but keep the name?

My region is called The Iron Guard.

[-Equalia-]

Then why would it be called KAISERREICH? German for Emperor Empire, by the literal translation. Did the region just change its theme but keep the name?

My region is called The Iron Guard.

Oh I'm sorry, I was assuming you were talking about KAISERRREICH because of the previous posts.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

My region is called The Iron Guard.

Oh I'm sorry, I was assuming you were talking about KAISERRREICH because of the previous posts.

No problem, I am just curious as to why my region was labeled as being a Nazi advocate.

[Brunhizzle]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

The Third Position was established, in part, by Strasserism which is an offshoot of National Socialism. This, along with the tendency of racial segregation being a key factor of Third Positionists, is the reason The Iron Guard is being included among the list of nominated regions being voted upon.

[Frattastan II]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

The Iron Guard was always anti-Semitic, both before and during the war. Codreanu himself advocated the deportation of Romania's Jewish population, and during the war the Legion took part in pogroms. The fact that it wasn't "Nazi" is irrelevant.

[Roosevetania]

I support the idea, but this is just an excuse by raiders to invade more. This is also hypocritical because it would be a fascist that invades a place because the people in that place have "bad" beliefs and political views.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

The Third Position was established, in part, by Strasserism which is an offshoot of National Socialism. This, along with the tendency of racial segregation being a key factor of Third Positionists, is the reason The Iron Guard is being included among the list of nominated regions being voted upon.

My region doesn't believe in racial segregation, we are open to all Anti-Capitalists and Anti-Communists. Have fun including my region anyway though. Be warned though, I have eyes and ears everywhere on NS as well as support from multiple regions.

[Zaurell]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

The Third Position was established, in part, by Strasserism which is an offshoot of National Socialism. This, along with the tendency of racial segregation being a key factor of Third Positionists, is the reason The Iron Guard is being included among the list of nominated regions being voted upon.

The Third Position was established by Benito Mussolini. Furthermore, racial segregation is not a tenet of Third Position ideology. The Third Position is an economic stance.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

How is my region an advocate of Nazism when we are Fascist?

The Iron Guard was always anti-Semitic, both before and during the war. Codreanu himself advocated the deportation of Romania's Jewish population, and during the war the Legion took part in pogroms. The fact that it wasn't "Nazi" is irrelevant.

Being Anti-Semetic doesn't mean that one is a Nazi.

[-Equalia-]

I support the idea, but this is just an excuse by raiders to invade more. This is also hypocritical because it would be a fascist that invades a place because the people in that place have "bad" beliefs and political views.

To date there have been more Liberations involving CAIN then there have been raids.

[Brunhizzle]

I support the idea, but this is just an excuse by raiders to invade more. This is also hypocritical because it would be a fascist that invades a place because the people in that place have "bad" beliefs and political views.

Not only do raiders not require an excuse to raid more but CAIN actively engages in both offensive and defensive operations.

[Altmoras]

I support the idea, but this is just an excuse by raiders to invade more. This is also hypocritical because it would be a fascist that invades a place because the people in that place have "bad" beliefs and political views.

To date there have been more Liberations involving CAIN then there have been raids.

Literally 3x as many.

[Kalinin K-7]

In examining this inter-regional organization, our ambassadors are perplexed at the fact that a group of regions, especially socialist regions, seek to eliminate regions of the ideology of Nazism. Our ambassadors understand that there is a massive disliking of Nazis and Nazism in general, however, it must be noted that in Galaxy 778, on the distant, overlooked planet of "Earth" during their "WWII," their Nazis have killed from 6 to 11 million Earthlings, while Socialists have killed from 22 to 70 million Earthlings. Seeing that there hasn't been a significant proliferation of these two ideologies away from that planet that has caused so many deaths, why are regions modeled after Socialism and Communism, which as an ideology, has killed at least almost 4 times and at most almost 12 times as many Earthlings as Nazism, being favored over Nazism? If logic was followed to create a Coalition against the most deadly Earth-related ideology, our political scientists (all 10,060 of them) have (for the first time, actually) unanimously reported that the Ideology of Socialism should be eradicated.

The Government of Kalinin K-7 does recognize that there is an alliance of sorts between socialists and invaders/raiders, but believes that this alliance, along with their large power blocs, have severely undermined the legitimacy of the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism. Therefore, in order to create a more perfect universe, the government is looking into creating CAIS: Coalition Against the Ideology of Socialism.

[Wisgothistan]

My personal guess would be that the Nazis openly advocated for the death of a large number of groups: Jews, Gypsies, Gay men, JWs, Slavs, etc. Socialism, while I disagree with some aspects of it, does not want genocide. I would, however, suspect that if Khmer Rouge copycats started showing up, suspect a Coalition Against the Personality of Pol Pot would form to combat them. Ps: Am social liberal/democrat, so I'm obviously biased.

Also, this forum is Out of Character.

[Kalinin K-7]

My personal guess would be that the Nazis openly advocated for the death of a large number of groups: Jews, Gypsies, Gay men, JWs, Slavs, etc. Socialism, while I disagree with some aspects of it, does not want genocide. I would, however, suspect that if Khmer Rouge copycats started showing up, suspect a Coalition Against the Personality of Pol Pot would form to combat them. Ps: Am social liberal/democrat, so I'm obviously biased.

Also, this forum is Out of Character.

Yes, the Nazis did advocate for and began the death for many minorities, which is condemned by the Government of Kalinin K-7, but the Socialists killed their own citizens by the millions, and in more fervor than any Nazi. "Your enemy's enemy is your friend," and in this case, the newly formed Coalition Against Socialism will accept members that oppose socialism, no matter their history, considering their abilities, trustworthiness, and various other attributes.

[Caelapes]

This isn't General, and the "Stalin killed 100 trillion million!!!" argument is a dead horse.

[Reventus Koth]

This isn't General, and the "Stalin killed 100 trillion million!!!" argument is a dead horse.

This entire coalition is founded upon a dead horse.

[Tretrid]

In examining this inter-regional organization, our ambassadors are perplexed at the fact that a group of regions, especially socialist regions, seek to eliminate regions of the ideology of Nazism. Our ambassadors understand that there is a massive disliking of Nazis and Nazism in general, however, it must be noted that in Galaxy 778, on the distant, overlooked planet of "Earth" during their "WWII," their Nazis have killed from 6 to 11 million Earthlings, while Socialists have killed from 22 to 70 million Earthlings. Seeing that there hasn't been a significant proliferation of these two ideologies away from that planet that has caused so many deaths, why are regions modeled after Socialism and Communism, which as an ideology, has killed at least almost 4 times and at most almost 12 times as many Earthlings as Nazism, being favored over Nazism? If logic was followed to create a Coalition against the most deadly Earth-related ideology, our political scientists (all 10,060 of them) have (for the first time, actually) unanimously reported that the Ideology of Socialism should be eradicated.

The Government of Kalinin K-7 does recognize that there is an alliance of sorts between socialists and invaders/raiders, but believes that this alliance, along with their large power blocs, have severely undermined the legitimacy of the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism. Therefore, in order to create a more perfect universe, the government is looking into creating CAIS: Coalition Against the Ideology of Socialism.

Nazism is hated far more. An example is found in the flag moderation policy, where flags containing (unmodified) swastikas will be associated with WWII and the Holocaust, while the hammer and sickle is not (commonly) associated with such a tragedy.

This isn't General, and the "Stalin killed 100 trillion million!!!" argument is a dead horse.

This entire coalition is founded upon a dead horse.

Possible argumentum ad hominem, depending who you are referring to.

[LollerLand]

My personal guess would be that the Nazis openly advocated for the death of a large number of groups: Jews, Gypsies, Gay men, JWs, Slavs, etc. Socialism, while I disagree with some aspects of it, does not want genocide. I would, however, suspect that if Khmer Rouge copycats started showing up, suspect a Coalition Against the Personality of Pol Pot would form to combat them. Ps: Am social liberal/democrat, so I'm obviously biased.

Also, this forum is Out of Character.

Yes, the Nazis did advocate for and began the death for many minorities, which is condemned by the Government of Kalinin K-7, but the Socialists killed their own citizens by the millions, and in more fervor than any Nazi. "Your enemy's enemy is your friend," and in this case, the newly formed Coalition Against Socialism will accept members that oppose socialism, no matter their history, considering their abilities, trustworthiness, and various other attributes.

So you will accept Nazi regions in your little coalition? If you will you have no moral right to speak against CAIN. And Socialist ideologies itself doesn't promote the killing of people but Nazism does.

[Eskvor]

Co founder input on KAISERREICH: KAISERREICH was meant to be based of off pre 1918 Germany. In reality, it does have Nazi and fascist tendencies, which is the biggest reason I left.

We threw you out because you were a corrupt power-hungry rebel. We are not and never have been a Nazi region and any allegiance to Fascism died when Kaiserreich was founded from the Reichswehr Headquarters, over two years ago.