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East Meranopirus
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Postby East Meranopirus » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:39 am

Without any intention of animosity, can someone tell me who actually knows Chinese in the ranks of TWP? Because I don't like this poaching of the Chinese language.

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Lazarene Ryccia
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Postby Lazarene Ryccia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:22 am

East Meranopirus wrote:Without any intention of animosity, can someone tell me who actually knows Chinese in the ranks of TWP? Because I don't like this poaching of the Chinese language.


That was my idea. Given the historical Chinese-themed influences on both Lazarus and (recently) the West Pacific, and due to the fact that this treaty is a resurrection of a previous alliance, it was my suggestion to give it a Mandarin name. If this was an erroneous course of action, please, do explain to me how it is so and I shall apologize for this slight.

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Postby Daytime to Night » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:58 am

Congratulations on the treaty, I particularly like the construction of Article VI

As a comment (from an aimless passing observer), there does however seem to be a tension between III.A and III.D. What is the perceived difference between ‘military hostilities’ and ‘typical military gameplay’ and have these definitions been mutually agreed by both parties?

Appears to be an unwelcome area of personal interpretation from the outside looking in.
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The Holy Principality of Saint Mark
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Naming The Heir Apparent

Postby The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:27 am

Naming The Heir Apparent
Of The West Pacific


His Imperial Majesty,
Marcarius Halo Rahl, The Holy Principality of Saint Mark,
Dragon Emperor of The West Pacific,
on the eighth day of October, in the year two-thousand and nineteen,
by the prerogative of The Delegacy,
and in accordance with the Peerage Proclamation,
is pleased to confer upon

Bran Astor


the title and privileges of
Imperial Prince of The West Pacific,
Heir Apparent to The Delegacy.

Bran has been either the driving force behind or a major contributor to most of the region’s accomplishments during my administration. He supports our traditions and advocates for innovation. He is hard-working, talented, funny and patient. He loves The West Pacific as much as I do and will serve it well.
I intend to abdicate sometime in the second week of November and will try to thank properly the many people who have contributed to the great successes we have enjoyed at that time. Let this moment belong to Bran who is well-deserving. Please support him as you have supported me.
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Postby Xoriet » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:39 am

Congratulations, BGP! :hug:

And noooo, Halo. We'll miss you as Delegate.
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Postby Armaros » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:50 am

Congratulations to Bran.

Sorry to see you go, Halo. You have been a great delegate, from an outside perspective at least.
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Postby Elegarth » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:01 pm

Hail Halo!
Hail Bran!
Hail The West Pacific!
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:14 pm

Congrats to Bran :)

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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:50 pm

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Postby Onder Kelkia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:13 pm

Many congratulations to Bran Astor on being named as Heir Apparent following his strong record of service to TWP.

I pay tribute to Halo's successful tenure as Delegate.
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Postby Alvalero » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:22 pm

Congratulations Bran! :clap:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:01 pm

Also, your OP nation there appears to be CTE, and has been for some time apparently :eyebrow:

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Postby Miss Bad Life Choices » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:46 pm

Congrats Bran :)
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Postby Your Imaginary Friend » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:47 pm

Scary..
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Postby Kaystein » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:28 pm

I went to look up something about Bran Astor; wound up on an article about beating up plants with a broom to make them bloom in spring.

:?

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The Holy Principality of Saint Mark
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Postby The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:46 pm

**Statement from the West Pacific Regarding Recent Events in TEP**

Today, there was an attempt by the incumbent delegate of The East Pacific to overthrow its constitutional government. Many of the allies of The West Pacific questioned whether or not we would take a side in this struggle and some demanded that we make a statement immediately. The West Pacific is not a reactionary region. In order to respond in a way that both honors our obligations and reflects our principles, we needed the time to outlay the sequence of events, and determine not only what action we wanted to take, but how we were going to take it and why.

TWP has a strong tradition of relying on game mechanics as the clearest source of authority in NationStates. This has not changed with the events that unfolded in TEP today. While we have always been champions of Delegate Supremacy, we also respect the flip side of this concept: namely, that the populace of a region has the right to rebel. Delegate Supremacy is not assumed. It is earned. A delegate who does not earn the respect and loyalty of their populace is not, in fact, a supreme delegate.

It is also worth noting that even by the strictest definition of Delegate Supremacy, we are still justified in choosing to support the natives of TEP. Per a dispatch made three days ago by Fedele, the Concordat and laws of TEP were reaffirmed as the legitimate laws of the region. As such, we are justified in recognizing both Fedele’s violations of regional law and Marrabuk’s legitimacy as Delegate-Elect.

As such, by the rules set out in our treaty with The East Pacific, The West Pacific is justified in acting in the interests of the constitutional government of TEP. At this time, The East Pacific’s constitutional government has made no request for military support. If such a request is made through the proper channels, however, TWP will honor its treaty.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm

Good to hear

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Postby The Pharcyde » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm

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Postby Aelitia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:26 pm

The Holy Principality of Saint Mark wrote:
**Statement from the West Pacific Regarding Recent Events in TEP**

Today, there was an attempt by the incumbent delegate of The East Pacific to overthrow its constitutional government. Many of the allies of The West Pacific questioned whether or not we would take a side in this struggle and some demanded that we make a statement immediately. The West Pacific is not a reactionary region. In order to respond in a way that both honors our obligations and reflects our principles, we needed the time to outlay the sequence of events, and determine not only what action we wanted to take, but how we were going to take it and why.

TWP has a strong tradition of relying on game mechanics as the clearest source of authority in NationStates. This has not changed with the events that unfolded in TEP today. While we have always been champions of Delegate Supremacy, we also respect the flip side of this concept: namely, that the populace of a region has the right to rebel. Delegate Supremacy is not assumed. It is earned. A delegate who does not earn the respect and loyalty of their populace is not, in fact, a supreme delegate.

It is also worth noting that even by the strictest definition of Delegate Supremacy, we are still justified in choosing to support the natives of TEP. Per a dispatch made three days ago by Fedele, the Concordat and laws of TEP were reaffirmed as the legitimate laws of the region. As such, we are justified in recognizing both Fedele’s violations of regional law and Marrabuk’s legitimacy as Delegate-Elect.

As such, by the rules set out in our treaty with The East Pacific, The West Pacific is justified in acting in the interests of the constitutional government of TEP. At this time, The East Pacific’s constitutional government has made no request for military support. If such a request is made through the proper channels, however, TWP will honor its treaty.



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As Vizier, Viceroy, and current trustee Delegate of The East Pacific I hereby request The West Pacific assist in the transfer of power to the Delegate-Elect Marrabuk.
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Postby Recuecn » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:47 am

I didn't expect to see a statement before the update (when we could have gotten away with the easy answer of "ok, we support the constitutional government because they're in the seat again"). Although the statement seems a bit contradictory, I'm glad to see we've balanced the need to avoid a reactionary response with the need for timeliness and respect for our allies.
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Frattastan IV
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Postby Frattastan IV » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:15 am

Recuecn wrote:I didn't expect to see a statement before the update (when we could have gotten away with the easy answer of "ok, we support the constitutional government because they're in the seat again").

Given how things were going for the coupers there was little difference between making a statement after update or making it one hour earlier, but good on you I guess. :P
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Postby Sensorland » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:22 am

Recuecn wrote:I didn't expect to see a statement before the update (when we could have gotten away with the easy answer of "ok, we support the constitutional government because they're in the seat again"). Although the statement seems a bit contradictory, I'm glad to see we've balanced the need to avoid a reactionary response with the need for timeliness and respect for our allies.

Ditto.
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The Seeker of Power
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Postby The Seeker of Power » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:48 am

How does it seems contradictory guys? You are both long time TWPers. The two tennants of TWP philosophy were properly upheld in Halo's decision.
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Recuecn
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Postby Recuecn » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:39 pm

The Seeker of Power wrote:How does it seems contradictory guys? You are both long time TWPers. The two tennants of TWP philosophy were properly upheld in Halo's decision.

I was referring to the following part of the statement:
The Holy Principality of Saint Mark wrote:
It is also worth noting that even by the strictest definition of Delegate Supremacy, we are still justified in choosing to support the natives of TEP. Per a dispatch made three days ago by Fedele, the Concordat and laws of TEP were reaffirmed as the legitimate laws of the region. As such, we are justified in recognizing both Fedele’s violations of regional law and Marrabuk’s legitimacy as Delegate-Elect.

I want to make it clear that I think the statement was good, necessary, and established TWP in the ideal position. I also think that as you said TWP's philosophy was upheld by the statement. However, "the strictest definition of Delegate Supremacy", in my opinion, would not include giving more weight to a previously published dispatch than to the actions of the delegate. By the end of the paragraph, the statement is acknowledging that what is recognized here is regional law and the legitimacy of the delegate-elect--neither of which are part of the Delegate Supremacy paradigm.

I think the previous paragraph, noting the right of the populace to rebel, and recognizing that the rightful TEP government takes its authority from the consent of the governed, makes more sense and is more in keeping with what I know as TWP's philosophy.
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Abdication Announcement

Postby The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:10 am

The time has come for me to step down from The Delegacy of The West Pacific.

By sometime in the second week of November, my successor, Bran Astor, will take my place on The Dragon Throne. It has been an amazing experience … a huge amount of work, but also enormously enjoyable. I sought to serve my favorite region in the best way I could and I think my tenure has been pretty successful. This is largely due to the talent, efforts and enthusiasm of several terrific citizens of TWP. They have my love and gratitude and deserve to be recognized.

First, my Heir Apparent, Bran Astor … wow. Your skill in transforming your gifted imagination into events, images, publications and programs has been the backbone of our renaissance. I would have been hard put to lead without your guidance and friendship. Now that you have also learned to delegate, :p you will be a legendary leader of our region.

Arkadia Universalis and Kawaii Schoolgirl, you were with me from the beginning. You are fiercely loyal, yet always speak your minds. Despite complicated real lives, you have given so much of your time and talents to improving The West Pacific. I was so lucky to have had you serve in my Cabinet. I will be shocked if each of you isn’t a GCR delegate in the future.

Dalimbar, you have brought enormous experience … and much appreciated humor … to my team. You have been a GCR delegate on more than one occasion and could easily just sit back and snark about NS events. Instead, you chose to help a noobie delegate find his way.

Our wonderful region isn’t the way it is by chance. It is the product of people who are willing to work. Omnipresent and always friendly Overthinkers, funny and hard-working Rizorien, thoughtful Deneria, welcoming WaRlorder, steadfast Wyvern, and TWPer-for-life Dilber … all of the Cabinet … deserves my gratitude and the gratitude of The West Pacific.

It is said that The West Pacific is the most secure of the GCRs. This too is no accident. We are indebted to our Guardians for their vigilance. In addition to those Guardians I have already mentioned, I would like to offer my thanks to Darkesia, Mediobogdum and Yy4u. These three have a long history of service to our region and their advice and friendship have been a great support.

Finally, THANK YOU … the residents of The West Pacific! You are funny, smart, creative and kind. YOU are the reason why we are the BEST Pacific.
I hope I have served you well as your Delegate and Dragon-Emperor and promise to continue to work for you for as long as I am in NS
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