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Altinsane
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Founded: Feb 13, 2017
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Altinsane » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:52 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:
Altinsane wrote:

Why did she lie to Cormac about having been the person to push it?


If she did, we never actually listened to her, but rather came to this action separately.

When our mutual Governments looked at ALL their notes, Xoriet just wasn't a name in them.


Thanks for clearing that up, Yun. Glad to see you guys aren't actually being tugged around by the nose over there. I was honestly shocked, you aren't the type to let someone else make your decisions for you. That makes me feel a lot better.

Fratt wrote:
Altinsane wrote:

Why did she lie to Cormac about having been the person to push it?


From the timestamp it looks like the conversation happened before this announcement (possibly a while ago), and may have been referring to something else (since it only refers to military coop). It's more meant to embarrass Xor and damage TWP-TEP relations than "prove" anything about what happened now, really: TBH gets a single-line mention in the whole thing.


Have there been any other times in recent history where TEP blacklisted TBH for any measure of time? It'd have to sometime during the reign of Discord, and sometime when Xor was heavily involved in TEP. Anything come to mind? In any case, her attempts to put a wedge between TEP and TWP can't have been any time except recently. These conversations couldnonly have feasibly taken place within the last month. And that's being giving. Whether or not Yuno is actually being moved by any of Xor's intentions for the region, those intentions clearly do exist in the present.
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Jakker
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Ex-Nation

Postby Jakker » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:34 pm

Altinsane wrote:Have there been any other times in recent history where TEP blacklisted TBH for any measure of time? It'd have to sometime during the reign of Discord, and sometime when Xor was heavily involved in TEP. Anything come to mind? In any case, her attempts to put a wedge between TEP and TWP can't have been any time except recently. These conversations couldnonly have feasibly taken place within the last month. And that's being giving. Whether or not Yuno is actually being moved by any of Xor's intentions for the region, those intentions clearly do exist in the present.


As far as I know, no GCR has ever blacklisted TBH before this. At least not during my time in NS. There have been times when some GCR militaries do not actively work with TBH, but I don't think that I have ever seen a blanket ban for being part of TBH.
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Lord Dominator
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Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:40 pm

Jakker wrote:
Altinsane wrote:Have there been any other times in recent history where TEP blacklisted TBH for any measure of time? It'd have to sometime during the reign of Discord, and sometime when Xor was heavily involved in TEP. Anything come to mind? In any case, her attempts to put a wedge between TEP and TWP can't have been any time except recently. These conversations couldnonly have feasibly taken place within the last month. And that's being giving. Whether or not Yuno is actually being moved by any of Xor's intentions for the region, those intentions clearly do exist in the present.


As far as I know, no GCR has ever blacklisted TBH before this. At least not during my time in NS. There have been times when some GCR militaries do not actively work with TBH, but I don't think that I have ever seen a blanket ban for being part of TBH.

Evidently it was felt that there hadn't been enough, given the 2-for-1 :p

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RiderSyl
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Ex-Nation

Postby RiderSyl » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:09 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:TBH can't evade responsibility by letting its members screw around in the GCRs, undermining and subverting them


literally 4 days later

Cormactopia Prime wrote:I have logs of Xoriet beating this drum about TBH's "subversion."


Now that is a pretty quick turn, even for Cormac the Human Turnstile.

Of course, I'm not going to say your apparent change of heart happened because you saw a way to make Xoriet and TEP look bad, and because of your penchant for drama-mongering you threw away yet another friendship over it, but... y'know, it's the most likely explanation. Either that, or you were only pretending to bash TBH to infiltrate Xoriet's DMs and Roavin can "vouch for that" too.
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Zemnaya Svoboda
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:28 pm

Jakker wrote:
Altinsane wrote:Have there been any other times in recent history where TEP blacklisted TBH for any measure of time? It'd have to sometime during the reign of Discord, and sometime when Xor was heavily involved in TEP. Anything come to mind? In any case, her attempts to put a wedge between TEP and TWP can't have been any time except recently. These conversations couldnonly have feasibly taken place within the last month. And that's being giving. Whether or not Yuno is actually being moved by any of Xor's intentions for the region, those intentions clearly do exist in the present.


As far as I know, no GCR has ever blacklisted TBH before this. At least not during my time in NS. There have been times when some GCR militaries do not actively work with TBH, but I don't think that I have ever seen a blanket ban for being part of TBH.

To be clear, as Delegate I seriously considered asking the Regional Assembly for a declaration of war against The Black Hawks for their invasion of Stargate in 2012, but decided against it.

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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:28 am

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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:32 am

Malphe wrote:

That's actually a very pretty snake, so I'll choose to take that as a compliment.

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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:36 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Malphe wrote:

That's actually a very pretty snake, so I'll choose to take that as a compliment.

Not wrong actually, big constrictors are pretty nice.
wait, if i'm a rat and you're a snake...
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:05 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Malphe wrote:

That's actually a very pretty snake, so I'll choose to take that as a compliment.

Honestly I think that's a pretty fair reaction :p

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The Holy Principality of Saint Mark
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Founded: May 20, 2016
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TWP Does Not Tolerate Bullying

Postby The Holy Principality of Saint Mark » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:37 pm

An Announcement from the West Pacific Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Bullying and intolerance should be eliminated whenever we see it. It is never acceptable behavior anywhere, but in NS we must be extra vigilant. Due to the anonymous environment, coupled with the fact that many people probably play this sort of game to run governments, the NS community is perhaps especially vulnerable. People bully in order to gain a sense of power, purpose or control. Many players here seek a simulation of the same, but they don’t do it by attacking or belittling others.
We must make it clear that anyone who chooses to act with hate will not only not gain the power or purpose they seek, but will be shunned and lose any prestige or good will they might have developed.
The recently released logs that document a pattern of intolerant behavior by Fest and Plagentine, which they do not deny are accurate, is unacceptable to The West Pacific. TWP is a region that will not tolerate bullying. Therefore, effective immediately, Fest and Plag are PNG in The West Pacific.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:47 pm

This is good :clap:

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Wopruthien
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Postby Wopruthien » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:37 pm

Will you be working with TRE in the future? (If you even do now)
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Devi Vytherin
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Devi Vytherin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:08 am

Wopruthien wrote:Will you be working with TRE in the future? (If you even do now)

Not TWP and don't speak for it, but as I understand it, not working with TRE was already policy, and has been for a while?
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Big Bad Badger
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Big Bad Badger » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:10 am

Devi Vytherin wrote:
Wopruthien wrote:Will you be working with TRE in the future? (If you even do now)

Not TWP and don't speak for it, but as I understand it, not working with TRE was already policy, and has been for a while?

You are correct. TRE has been known to make poor choices in associations that we have never been able to support.
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Davelands
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Davelands » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:12 pm

After discussing the matter internally, with our friends in The East Pacific, and with The Black Hawks, The West Pacific hereby rescinds our blacklisting of The Black Hawks.
In reviewing the issues between us, we have come to the conclusion that such a severe punishment is no longer necessary.

TBH members are free to re-enter TWP and TWPAF.
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Benjabobaria
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Ex-Nation

Postby Benjabobaria » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:32 pm

Davelands wrote:After discussing the matter internally, with our friends in The East Pacific, and with The Black Hawks, The West Pacific hereby rescinds our blacklisting of The Black Hawks.
In reviewing the issues between us, we have come to the conclusion that such a severe punishment is no longer necessary.

TBH members are free to re-enter TWP and TWPAF.


I was always a harsh critic of this blacklist, as many are aware, so I am overjoyed. This will bring good things for TWPAF.
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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:40 pm

Benjabobaria wrote:
I was always a harsh critic of this blacklist, as many are aware, so I am overjoyed. This will bring good things for TWPAF.

But GP loses a bitching Souls so overall we all lose.
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Vando0sa
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Vando0sa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:44 pm

Davelands wrote:After discussing the matter internally, with our friends in The East Pacific, and with The Black Hawks, The West Pacific hereby rescinds our blacklisting of The Black Hawks.
In reviewing the issues between us, we have come to the conclusion that such a severe punishment is no longer necessary.

TBH members are free to re-enter TWP and TWPAF.


YAY! I can re-join TWPAF and TBH!.. wait i'm WA locked now.. poop..
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Fauxia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Fauxia » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:49 pm

Everyone is unbanning everyone. Bright Summer days, eh?

Just a random observation, not that unbanning people is inherently bad. (In this case, it’s not my dispute, I don’t really care).
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Ex-Nation

Postby RiderSyl » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:15 pm

Davelands wrote:After discussing the matter internally, with our friends in The East Pacific, and with The Black Hawks, The West Pacific hereby rescinds our blacklisting of The Black Hawks.
In reviewing the issues between us, we have come to the conclusion that such a severe punishment is no longer necessary.

TBH members are free to re-enter TWP and TWPAF.


I was extremely critical of this policy, to the point of leaving TEP in protest. I am overjoyed that this dispute is finally settled, and cooler heads have prevailed with time.
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Maurizio Sforza
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Ex-Nation

Postby Maurizio Sforza » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:20 pm

While it's not really a concern of mine, I'm happy to know that my former home which I remember so fondly is prospering and its relations with other regions improving. :)
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Altinsane
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Altinsane » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:16 pm

So glad to hear this. :)
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Postby Darkesia » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:54 pm

FYI. The off site forum is down. Winnie made a brief statement on our RMB.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:53 pm

Darkesia wrote:FYI. The off site forum is down. Winnie made a brief statement on our RMB.


Hopefully it's up again soon.
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Davelands
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Davelands » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:48 am

IMPORTANT REGIONAL ANNOUNCEMENT


Change is inevitable and usually a good thing. Change can be a time for renewal and a time to improve. Change can also revitalize. It is time for a change.

For almost 300 days I have led The West Pacific. It has been a great ride. We have seen some old friends come back into the region, we have revived and created some wonderful RMB traditions, role play and games are happening on Discord, Today In The West starts the day with a fun conversation, Foreign Affairs and TWPAF projects our values across the game, and so much more.

As someone who grew up in The West Pacific, I am especially proud of the new generation of home-grown leaders that have taken up so many important positions for us. I know that the future of The West Pacific will be stronger than ever because of their work.

Therefore, it is now time for me to step aside and let someone else take the reins. As is our tradition in The West Pacific, I have chosen my successor. Neenee needs no introduction. She has been in the region for many, many years and is one of the most experienced players in the game. We have worked closely together even before I was Delegate and she knows exactly what needs to be done to continue to build on what already has been created. I can think of no better steward for the region.

I have no plans to leave this fine region that I have always called home. I will remain on as a Guardian and plan to be involved in the regional government.

As always, the change shall be orderly and peaceful. I would appreciate it if every WA nation in the region immediately endorses Neenee to allow for a smooth transition.

Thank you all.
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