The Invaders | Ego Sum Ideo Vici

[Drop Your Pants]

I assume you failed to see the joint statement made by multiple regions, including KoGB.

Just to note Vac, your statement came out 2 days after Ikania posted that

[Ikania]

HAHAHAHAHA you forget the fact that Yuno switching would make defending awesome in its own right and take away the only thing that made raiding worthwhile <3

And it is about raiding in general, it's on every organization that cooperates with and tolerates the Invaders instead of shutting them out like they deserve. A reflection upon your own standards and ethics. Which is also why I like TBH c:

I assume you failed to see the joint statement made by multiple regions, including KoGB. Raiders who will work with TI are now in the extreme minority. So no it isn't on raiderdom. The minority do not represent the values of the majority. So please get somewhere with your generalizations, or if not, I assume a few could be made about defenders based off of some of its membership, both present and past. A certain Chief of the Band comes to mind.

In other words: "You fool! I have exposed how wrong you are by doing exactly what you said we should do!"

[Saint Mekhet]

Y'all still doing operations?

[Sinner Block]

We certainly are, why don't you join us?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Hello,

It's come to my attention that a significant portion of your recent tags (approximately 40% of reported hits) have been retags of hits made by TBH and other raiders. Despite our major differences, TBH has made every effort to continue to respect you as we do every other raiding region on the battlefield - that includes making an effort to avoid retagging other regions' tags, while accepting that shit happens sometimes.

We'd appreciate if the effort to avoid other raiders' tags was returned.

Thank you.

[Kitzerland]

TBH has made every effort to continue to respect you as we do every other raiding region on the battlefield

Why?

[Ikania]

TBH has made every effort to continue to respect you as we do every other raiding region on the battlefield

Why?

[Consular]

They're tags. Why does it matter if you get tagged over.

[RiderSyl]

TBH has made every effort to continue to respect you as we do every other raiding region on the battlefield

Why?

They're tags. Why does it matter if you get tagged over.

Gonna answer both of these in one go.

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.
The proponents of actual Raider Unity are mostly gone now, but I'm not surprised to see TBH still upholding it, nor am I surprised to see TI not giving a shit about it.

[Big Bad Badger]

Why?

They're tags. Why does it matter if you get tagged over.

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.

This is a real respect that needs to come back between organizations whether your are established or up and coming.

[General Knot]

They're tags. Why does it matter if you get tagged over.

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.

People acting like they know what they're talking about when they don't is a pet peeve of mine.

[Consular]

Why?

They're tags. Why does it matter if you get tagged over.

Gonna answer both of these in one go.

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.
The proponents of actual Raider Unity are mostly gone now, but I'm not surprised to see TBH still upholding it, nor am I surprised to see TI not giving a shit about it.

Haha

Wait, I have something for this.

Quote me: There is no Raider Unity!

[Roavin]

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.

People acting like they know what they're talking about when they don't is a pet peeve of mine.

But of course actually explaining anything to the poor NSGP-browsing plebs is beneath you. Would ruin that mystique, ey?

[Kitzerland]

People acting like they know what they're talking about when they don't is a pet peeve of mine.

But of course actually explaining anything to the poor NSGP-browsing plebs is beneath you. Would ruin that mystique, ey?

Speaking as a poor NSGP-browsing pleb, I can reliably confirm I'd like some explanation on that one, Larry.

[General Knot]

People acting like they know what they're talking about when they don't is a pet peeve of mine.

But of course actually explaining anything to the poor NSGP-browsing plebs is beneath you. Would ruin that mystique, ey?

A few clicks on your part will give way to countless posts by H and I on the subject.

[Roavin]

But of course actually explaining anything to the poor NSGP-browsing plebs is beneath you. Would ruin that mystique, ey?

A few clicks on your part will give way to countless posts by H and I on the subject.

Well, let's take a look.

There is no "Raider Unity".

There is no Raider Unity, dear little offender.

There is no "Raider Unity." Perhaps there once was when its original concept was well-known, but the phrase has since been assimilated by all "raiders" to justify their every motive and action. Ultimately, all regions and organizations have their own conflicting interests and only care about such.

Wow I'm so enlightened.

[Gibraltarica]

Raider Unity is dead only in the hearts of those who want it to be. And dare I say, the invaders is getting off to a mighty fine start with refusing to be a part of it. Antagonize us all you want, the fact is that we intentionally try to avoid retags. If you can't provide the same courtesy, especially when a mere fraction of the update is tagged, raider unity is not dead, you're just refusing to be a part of it.

[The Highlander 1]

Rather than complain about we Ancients stating that there is no Raider Unity, I challenge anyone to show any extended period of time over the past 13 years where Raider Unity prevailed.

Enlighten me, please.

[The Highlander 1]

I will state that over time a few Raider organisations held much sway among them were the Den of Old and The Black Hawks of recent times.

H

[RiderSyl]

Raiders are to respect other raiders' operations, from tags to occupations. That was the original meaning behind 'Raider Unity', before it got turned into a nonsense phrase.

People acting like they know what they're talking about when they don't is a pet peeve of mine.

You must piss yourself off a lot then.

[General Knot]

A few clicks on your part will give way to countless posts by H and I on the subject.

Well, let's take a look.

There is no "Raider Unity".

There is no Raider Unity, dear little offender.

There is no "Raider Unity." Perhaps there once was when its original concept was well-known, but the phrase has since been assimilated by all "raiders" to justify their every motive and action. Ultimately, all regions and organizations have their own conflicting interests and only care about such.

Wow I'm so enlightened.

Behold the tenacity of defenders. May it forever serve you in your holy mission ordained by th-- hang on, you missed something important:

"Respecting other raiders", however, is a misconstrued application of the now-defunct "Raider Unity". Nowhere does it ever state that all raiders, in fear of interregional backlash, should respect all raiders' "turf". Furthermore, "Raider Unity" was never an exclusive club that you could join by following a set of rules. It was a fluid concept that varied between every individual and every organization, because each and every individual and organization had their own practices and agendas. Just because you won't touch Raider A's occupation doesn't mean I won't, because I may not regard Raider A as a part of my "Raider Unity". Such a misunderstanding can only be compared to the defender response to the invasion of California: "the late founder of the region was associated with invaders, so why are you disrespecting Raider Unity by invading the region!"

[Cormactopia Prime]

Rather than complain about we Ancients stating that there is no Raider Unity, I challenge anyone to show any extended period of time over the past 13 years where Raider Unity prevailed.

Enlighten me, please.

That would probably be difficult, because organizations like this perversion of The Invaders, and before them The Black Riders and their perversion of DEN, refuse to afford to other raiders the same level of basic operational respect those raiders afford to them. As this perversion of The Invaders is the successor to The Black Riders and their perversion of DEN, it's not at all surprising to see them showing the same level of disrespect to other raiders that The Black Riders and DEN demonstrated, now that Gest is in control once again. He was always the driving force behind that mentality.

It's because of organizations like The Black Riders and their perversions of DEN and The Invaders that raider unity has never fully prevailed, because some raiders refuse to respect other raiders' operations. Hopefully The Black Hawks, et al., will see that TBR/DEN/TI are never going to respect those organizations' operations and will now feel free to act against TBR/DEN/TI operations. The best thing that could happen to gameplay would be to see all of their raids shut down by a coalition of regions of all alignments no longer willing to put up with their nonsense.

[RiderSyl]

"Respecting other raiders", however, is a misconstrued application of the now-defunct "Raider Unity".

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Tinhampton]

Are these people still around?

[Tim-Opolis]

Are these people still around?

An organization run by Gest, Attero, and 94 Block? Honestly, I'm surprised it's survived this long without modly wrath.

The Invaders' relevance, what there was, went when Larry retired. Drunken Conquerors helped put the nails into the coffin by being woefully incapable of even the most basic R/D, and Gest is past his prime at this point too. Their Discord seems relatively active, to be fair, though most of the recent activity has been them lamenting about this thread and all the mean people in GP, even thinking they should close the thread down. I'd pull quotes, but they'd be warn-worthy.

TL;DR - Dead af