Are Big Daddies(Bioshock) viable in a NS army.

[The Blue Chocobo]

A few friends and i have discussed whether real Big Daddies could be created and used for combat purposes. I would love to here from some other nations. Would it be possible to create Big Daddies? And if created, what could their place be in a military?


Try to consider the specific models of Big Daddies.

[The Blue Chocobo]

Lets start with the bouncer class.

[Greater Rhodes]

Could you give a description of what Big Daddies are?

[Vostria]

Well I doubt it highly seeing how the Bioshock game takes place in a city beneath the sea in which they harvested Adam from slugs and used it to splice genes. Big Daddies, correct me if i'm wrong, is highly labtomised and drugged humans who have been grafted inside a diving suit (one of the old types). So they may be viable IF you create a roleplay based within the Bioshock universe OR get the explicit consent of the people your playing with.

[The Blue Chocobo]

well, keep in mind, ns apparently has the ability to genetically alter people since at least one issue is based on whether it should be allowed or not. And adam would not be needed since only big sisters have plasmids. Im pretty sure that would be borderline god mod.

[East Fancainia]

Could you give a description of what Big Daddies are?

[Bavin]

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Only if your entire nation takes place under the sea in the 1950's.

[East Fancainia]

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Only if your entire nation takes place under the sea in the 1950's.

Who wouldn't want that?

[The Blue Chocobo]

part of the capital city, lindblum is under water. not so much as good ol rapture, but...anyways the era and location have little relevance to possibility or use

[Kahanistan]

I could see them in an undersea combat role, or a sabotage role (planting a shaped charge on the hull of an enemy warship in port, or cutting undersea cables) but they won't be the gods of the battlefield that they seem to be portrayed as. Then again, I've never played Bioshock and am relying on the description in the thread...

[The Blue Chocobo]

yes, that is true. a modification of the water tight suit to kevlar of varying weight could make them more land suited

[Bavin]

yes, that is true. a modification of the water tight suit to kevlar of varying weight could make them more land suited

And make them a giant, lumbering, metal target that could be taken down with any vehicle mounted weapon or infantry crewed one with ease. Your opponents would be glad to see them. Life isn't CoD, giant lumbering guys in suits on a modern battlefield are just targets.

[Skibereen]

FT, so yes. In any other setting no.

[The Blue Chocobo]

i guess you are talking about something in mw2 since thats the one i havent played...

think of a defensive role tho. they would obviously be terrible invasion forces, but what if they were in a fortified location

[Vostria]

Someone has made a bioshock RP. Use big daddies in a bioshock Rp. For every other RP leave them at home!!!!!

[Vostria]

Bioshock RP: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37177

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I think they could be possible in the sense of having large well armoured soldiers with weapons attached to their armour, but in the actual Bio-shock sense in that the people are grafted into the suits, you may have trouble finding volunteers. Also even if you could make them I doubt they would be too useful in that the Bouncers really can only kill you at close range. The Rosies may be more effective, but would be very slow, overall, they are possible to a degree, although they would not really be worth the cost, and you can't use them in large numbers because all of that equipment would cost a lot.

[The Blue Chocobo]

i intend to use them as capital guards

[Bavin]

i intend to use them as capital guards

My point still stands. If any sort of vehicle spots them, they are basically dead, as they cannot move very fast, and lack the agile ability of regular infantry to slip through smaller holes.

[The Blue Chocobo]

tanks are large, slower and armored. why does this not apply to those as well.


and if a tank spots a humvee, the humvee cant really escape now can it and it will surely be gone if the tank gets a shot off-which it certainly would due to modern targeting systems- yet humvees are still viable. so...explain how these things are different

[The Scandinvans]

A few friends and i have discussed whether real Big Daddies could be created and used for combat purposes. I would love to here from some other nations. Would it be possible to create Big Daddies? And if created, what could their place be in a military?


Try to consider the specific models of Big Daddies.

Can you have their armor in MT, certainly.

Can they have all of their abilities in MT? No.

Can they have all of their abilities in PMT? Possibly.

Can they have all of their abilities in FT? Definitely.

[Greater Americania]

One, if you ever try and deploy a 'Big Daddy', you will be perma-ignored by 95% of the people on NS. Two, if you ever deploy a big daddy, it will be quickly destroyed with already available units. Grenade launchers and other explosives would do the trick, if not regular bullets. I haven't played Bioshock since 2007. I don't remember how thick their armor is.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

tanks are large, slower and armored. why does this not apply to those as well.


and if a tank spots a humvee, the humvee cant really escape now can it and it will surely be gone if the tank gets a shot off-which it certainly would due to modern targeting systems- yet humvees are still viable. so...explain how these things are different

Humvees can travel far faster, can carry several weapons, and soldiers, and probably do not cost much more than a big daddy. The only was I can ever see a big daddy being useful is as a thug, or is brutal CQB, where it can use its size and armour to its advantage.

[A mean old man]

You could always substitute your nation's two-metre tall "super soldiers" for "big daddies." I can't imagine they'd be all that different from one another.